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Post by Pedigree on Sept 2, 2015 17:15:38 GMT -5
Pedigree Dude...that is just straight up wicked sick AWESOMENESS. I'm totally obsessed with this figure and the amazing custom carding and packaging! Thanks man! I have an option question for you guys. The card I made is the old fashioned DM packaging. It has the old scratch logo for WWE. I wanted to start over with a razor/hogan/flair box because it has the new logo. Then I remembered the background is different. Razor has chains, hogan has a ripped shirt, flair has feathers. Given that, should I just stick with this one? I'm kind of torn here.
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Post by ineyeseekay on Sept 2, 2015 17:22:45 GMT -5
Pedigree Dude...that is just straight up wicked sick AWESOMENESS. I'm totally obsessed with this figure and the amazing custom carding and packaging! Thanks man! I have an option question for you guys. The card I made is the old fashioned DM packaging. It has the old scratch logo for WWE. I wanted to start over with a razor/hogan/flair box because it has the new logo. Then I remembered the background is different. Razor has chains, hogan has a ripped shirt, flair has feathers. Given that, should I just stick with this one? I'm kind of torn here. What does Sting have?
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Post by jedimastakane on Sept 2, 2015 18:08:49 GMT -5
Well, it's been months, actually two months short of a year now, and I hate to do this, but I've been left with no choice. I've given ample time and opportunity to hear some sort of reply, and I've given a good bit of time with ultimatums that I would go on here and do this, but with no word back, it's time. I'm telling my story of how if someone has a bad trader tag, you don't ever take it for granted and you shouldn't do business with them. This is the case with chargrove and myself, and a lesson to all about how no matter how good someone's work is, to make absolutely sure that no one has ever had issue with them before you send them your stuff, as you may never get it back or ever hear from them again. Anyway, here's the full story: I initially contacted Chris on October 27 of last year for work on two customs: a WM26 GI Joe style camo CM Punk, and to use the spare parts from the source figures I sent him to make a Pipe Bomb attire Punk. I sent him my FIRST elite I had ever purchased, an Elite 11 Punk, and a pretty expensive Punk I purchased on ebay, the All Star yellow attire Punk, with a headswap I had done myself with the head I intended on using for the Joe-styled punk: the long hair and beard scan from the Over the Limit basic Punk. After some discussion, we agreed on 50 bucks shipped for the work including paint and the torso swap required to put the chest hair on the E11 body. I had no paint or torso cracking experience, so for the price we'd agreed upon plus seeing his amazing prior work, this was an ideal setup for me to get the attires I wanted on my figures. He confirmed the figures arrived on Nov. 13, and on the 18th, he sent me this updates on his work: So far, so good. Around this time, I saw some people talking about unreliability in regards to chargrove, so given the initial positive experience, I stood up for him and gave the quick turnaround I saw progressing before my eyes as a good sign. He was thankful for my support, and kept contact with me. On Dec. 7, he gave me another update: I didn't quite think that it matched what I was going for, so I gave him more reference pictures. He assured me on Dec. 14th that he would work on my figure a bit more, and even said that due to the time it was taking him that he couldn't accept the initial deal of 50, and even offered to lower the price to 35, plus a free custom Tajiri. I thanked him for his kind offer, and figured it was nice, but offered 42 for everything since he was offering me a free figure as well as the work on my stuff. And then...silence. Every month around the same time, I'd message him back in our PM thread, asking for updates, and seeing no reply. Every now and then, he'd post other figures he was working on in either the fixup thread, or his own custom thread. He mentioned me once more, although not replying to me since December, in January: Thank you very much, bro yes, as in GI Joe Punk, long owed to a good friend and very patient member here One final time in April, after my monthly requests to hear back in some form about the huge delay in my nearly-complete custom commissions, he posted this picture featuring my Punk's boots: New customs coming soon from me, here are some of them in their WIP stages: A few of them will be up for sale next week, otherwise for orders. Hope you enjoy Through the ENTIRE year of 2015, I've tried liking various posts, quoting him in other threads asking for a reply to my PMs, starting new PMs with the hopes of getting his attention, messaging him on his ebay account, and even adding him on facebook and sending private messages to him on there about how I've grown very frustrated with him ignoring me at what has honestly been a very trying time in my life. After really taking a good look at his custom thread, I contacted koreygunz since his posts seemed eerily familiar to my own, and asking him about his experience with chargrove. He told me a familiar story to mine, about sending a figure off to him for custom work. Here are korey's exact words on this situation: Did the same thing to me. I sent parts, it took forever to even get progress pics, then he wouldn't respond to my messages. He even posted my completed razor custom in his custom boars thread but didn't send it to me! He ignored my messages so I lit him up in his thread about him being a con artist, so he finally messaged me and said he'd send it. He didn't. Then he said his girlfriend destroyed all his customs but he was gonna redo it for me, blah blah blah. This was over the course of two years! Do not deal with him! And here we are. After sending friendly requests to get an update on some sort of progress for months, then more concerned ones highlighting my personal struggles with health through the year and how a situation like this one has been hard to swallow for another few months, and even messages on facebook saying how I would go on WF and expose the blatant disregard for his customers, nothing. I wonder if me doing this lengthy post about how a very talented custom artist that has done this kind of thing before will finally get me some sort of response like koreygunz got a while back. Seeing how his time on here has become more and more limited and sporadic, I don't know. I hate having to write this story and expose him like this. I consider myself to be a pretty patient and friendly person. I've had to go through dealing with chronic pain for four years, a spinal fusion in my neck very similar to Steve Austin and Edge at the end of last year, and continuing chronic pain that persists to this very day. I'm a positive person who tries to see the good in people, and I work very hard through the pain on a daily basis. I also have been taken advantage of time and time again both online and in person due to my nature, and frankly I'm fed up and I'm not going to be ignored anymore. I thank you all for reading this, and I hope that my mistake of trusting someone online who had a history of both positive and negative interactions with people can lead those who've read this to have a more cautious approach to how you deal online. Stay safe with your stuff, and your money, because you may not get it back if you send it to the wrong person.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 2, 2015 18:15:46 GMT -5
Sorry you lost your stuff man. It really sucks that people like him are on here. However, I know its just stating the obvious but they dont tag Bad Traders just for decoration.
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Post by Pedigree on Sept 2, 2015 18:28:47 GMT -5
jedimastakane if you have some spare parts I'll make you a G.I. Joe custom Punk for free to make up for the BS you went through. PM me and let me know.
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Post by jedimastakane on Sept 2, 2015 18:31:05 GMT -5
Sorry you lost your stuff man. It really sucks that people like him are on here. However, I know its just stating the obvious but they dont tag Bad Traders just for decoration. Yeah, that's the truth. At the time he had some happy customers on here, and was actively selling on ebay. But I guess with that tag on his acct, this is the only thing I could do, at the very least it could keep someone else from making the same mistake I did. jedimastakane if you have some spare parts I'll make you a G.I. Joe custom Punk for free to make up for the BS you went through. PM me and let me know. That's incredible, thank you! I'll send you a PM.
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Post by Pedigree on Sept 2, 2015 18:42:43 GMT -5
Sorry you lost your stuff man. It really sucks that people like him are on here. However, I know its just stating the obvious but they dont tag Bad Traders just for decoration. Yeah, that's the truth. At the time he had some happy customers on here, and was actively selling on ebay. But I guess with that tag on his acct, this is the only thing I could do, at the very least it could keep someone else from making the same mistake I did. jedimastakane if you have some spare parts I'll make you a G.I. Joe custom Punk for free to make up for the BS you went through. PM me and let me know. That's incredible, thank you! I'll send you a PM. I just hope you like my work lol. Here's my custom thread if you want to check that out. If you like what you see we can hook this up! forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/320462/defining-moments-summersalm-seth-rollins?page=4
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Post by jedimastakane on Sept 2, 2015 18:52:03 GMT -5
I do! I actually saw your SummerSlam Rollins the other day and loved it, and was just looking through your thread with my fiancee after telling her about your kind offer. Your HBK's are all really good, and it looks like your work has improved with time. I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Sept 2, 2015 19:06:31 GMT -5
Would this head be too small for a Mattel? Ask hollywoodryan to post one of his nWo Japan figs as a reference of how well these scale heads really do work on Mattel customs. Hold the phone. I have his nWo thread bookmarked to use every time I feel inspired to work on my own. Which of those figures use the heads from the little Japanese figures?
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Sept 2, 2015 19:39:42 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the truth. At the time he had some happy customers on here, and was actively selling on ebay. But I guess with that tag on his acct, this is the only thing I could do, at the very least it could keep someone else from making the same mistake I did. That's incredible, thank you! I'll send you a PM. I just hope you like my work lol. Here's my custom thread if you want to check that out. If you like what you see we can hook this up! forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/320462/defining-moments-summersalm-seth-rollins?page=4Good on you man. People helpin' people... what's up with that? haha
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Post by The King Of Crisps on Sept 2, 2015 19:40:42 GMT -5
Pedigree Dude...that is just straight up wicked sick AWESOMENESS. I'm totally obsessed with this figure and the amazing custom carding and packaging! Thanks man! I have an option question for you guys. The card I made is the old fashioned DM packaging. It has the old scratch logo for WWE. I wanted to start over with a razor/hogan/flair box because it has the new logo. Then I remembered the background is different. Razor has chains, hogan has a ripped shirt, flair has feathers. Given that, should I just stick with this one? I'm kind of torn here. as soon as I read that you were thinking of using a Ramon box I wanted to come in here and mention the backing lol. Maybe you could splice the old back of the box with the rest of Razors box? so that way you have the stock back with the new logo?
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Sept 2, 2015 21:14:22 GMT -5
Anyone here know which figures are the same height as elite Eric Rowan? I'm thinking of buying a jumpsuit off of Ralph's and then using the basic head and arms but haven't decided on whose body would work. Any pics are appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 22:00:19 GMT -5
If you just want elite arctic and a cloth jumpsuit, why not use the elite? If the limits of the jumpsuit sculpt at the shoulders bother you, you could just sand them down since the new jumpsuit would cover it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 22:02:07 GMT -5
as soon as I read that you were thinking of using a Ramon box I wanted to come in here and mention the backing lol. Maybe you could splice the old back of the box with the rest of Razors box? so that way you have the stock back with the new logo? The old boxes and the new boxes are different sizes. That said, I don't know why you couldn't transplant the front panel of a new box onto the front of say the Flair box.
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Post by Pedigree on Sept 2, 2015 22:07:53 GMT -5
@thekingofcrisps @trumpdudley
I think I might just scan the front and side logos from the newer box and seal them to the current one I'm using. The difference in box sizes would be a real headache to get the swapped pieces just right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 23:19:26 GMT -5
I'd honestly think a Sting/Hogan/Razor front panel on a Flair box would be the best, but that's only if you prefer the smaller box to the larger ones of old. I personally find the smaller box more appealing.
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Sept 3, 2015 5:52:06 GMT -5
Rummaged through my spare parts and was able to add some more stuff to my headbangers. Switched the elbow pads to the smaller kind. Switched mosh's boots, shins and added different colored knee pads. Found 2 truth necklaces. And my shirts arrived. Trimmed the bottom up a bit and made the arm holes a bit bigger. Still need to change thrashers goat tee. And see what I can do about decals for the tattoos and shirts.
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Post by perfectlyrude on Sept 3, 2015 10:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by Pedigree on Sept 3, 2015 10:34:21 GMT -5
I have a Legends Snuka that I've been planning on using for a barefoot Snuka for months but I just can't see myself paying $40-50 for another Kevin Von Erich just for the lower legs. Is there any other option out there?
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Post by WMDman on Sept 3, 2015 10:39:45 GMT -5
I have a Legends Snuka that I've been planning on using for a barefoot Snuka for months but I just can't see myself paying $40-50 for another Kevin Von Erich just for the lower legs. Is there any other option out there? Yoko? -WMD
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