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Post by luchafan1 on Oct 7, 2011 11:59:18 GMT -5
This subject has probably been discussed before but i couldn't be bothered to dig up old threads.
i personally hate the fact that we are slowly entering the "digital age" in comics, i will never....ever...warm up to the idea of reading comics on some screen period,it also doesn't feel like i own it if i can't physiclly hold it.
When video gaming started to become more and more online obsessed, it turned me off and i pretty much left the hobby ( and i had been gaming since the nes days when i was 3 years old !) because it bothered me to no end that i didn't have everything in my game when i bought it in the store, and i refuse to go through the hassle of logging in online and paying money for additional stuff.
So then there was my other hobby, comic books....i got back into them more and then i started reading about plans to get them digital and slowly but surely there is becoming more and more focus on the digital market, which makes me wonder, will comics ever solely go digital, to the point that there are no printed versions anymore ?
i've read many an interview on sites like ign where high ups in the field assure that brick and mortar outlets have nothing to fear and that they will keep supporting them because printed comics will stay...so ok i was at ease again.
At least untill i started to think about it more...i just can not shake the feeling that in 10 or 20 years, if that long, comics will be a digital thing and printed comics will go the way of the vhs tape, a slow death untill being forgotten.
the day that happens i will quit reading,just like with video games, i refuse to spend my money on some pixels on a screen that are suppose to be my beloved comic book.
On things like this, i hate the times we live in, with online this and digital that and the whole 9 yards, it seems to be accepted by most people yet i get disgusted and turned off from my precious hobby's i've hab since i was a toddler, it's sad.
oh and while i'm at it, i sincerely hope wrestling never goes the ippv route for everything...i understand the advantages for promotions but i'm still an old fashioned guy that likes to get as much as possible on dvd/bly ray, and i dread the day those platforms will get abondonned for some online service where i have to go buy my wrestling events.
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Post by T R W on Oct 7, 2011 12:43:04 GMT -5
I used to feel that way about video games and comics, and just about everything. However, I have come around. As I have gotten older, I don't feel the need to "collect" things nearly as much. I value free space in my house, and a video game collection, and comic collection just took up free space. The fact that I have thousands of comics on a flash drive now, is a god send. I don't have to spend money on boards and bags, and I don't have to worry about condition, or worry about "hurting" the comic while reading it. I read them on my iPad, and it looks beautiful. Plus, I can carry entire runs of a comic with me, without the hassle of actually carrying them. Not to mention, if I want to read comics on my iPad on my lunch break in a crowded area, nobody can tell what I am actually reading.
The only thing I wish, is that the companies would release an unlimited online subscription, or lower the purchase price of digital comics.
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Post by moocow on Oct 7, 2011 13:07:53 GMT -5
I see nothing wrong with digital comics, right now I'm fine with having tons of single issues and trades in my house because I don't need a lot of room but when I get older I'm not going to want to have all these around, sure I'll probably keep collecting trades because I love how they look, but I can't see myself as I get older having a bunch of single issue comics because it will take up so much room and I'd rather just have something really small like an iPad to hold all my comics in one place.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 7, 2011 18:57:55 GMT -5
I love digital comics. Love them.
I was sick this week. I couldn't get out of bed. I read tons and tons of comic books. I read the whole Bruce Wayne Murderer and Bruce Wayne Fugitive sagas. I read Emerald Twilight, Death of Superman and Final Night. I read tons and tons of comics building up to the Infinite Crisis crossover. I read all of these on my Touchpad. It was awesome. Didn't have to keep a pile of comics around. Didn't have to reach for the next comic when I was done reading. I will not go back to physical comics.
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Post by luchafan1 on Oct 8, 2011 5:07:54 GMT -5
thanks for your takes on this, i kinda expected reply's like this,i was sure some people on here had jumped on the digital wagon lol.
now yes isee the advantages,always have,i guess i just put too much empahsis on keeping my old habits.
even if i will someday go along with it, i can guarantee i will never find it as fun as having real books, but yes i'm sure it's easy and looks gorgeous on a backlit screen,i can imagine it would make the images seem more vibrant.
but i know i am extremely old fashioned even if i'm only 26 lol, when i play nes games i want to do it on a real nes for example, sure just buying it on the wii store and using a classic controller is fine, and i enjoy it, yet every single time i do something like that,it makes me want to go buy a real nes and real carts again.
part of the charm for me, is seeing and holding the object, wheter its a game or a comic, the reading/playing is the essence sure, but looking at,it, holding it, giving it a nice place in your room to occasionally look at, is very much part of the whole experaience for me, maybe i'm getting too sentimental or i'm srewed up in the noggin from years of being a wrestlign collector but if you ask me what's coolest, looking at an ipad lying around the house, where you KNOW there is 1000 comics inside it, OR having a bookshelf filled with hardcovers.....well, i can stare at the bookshelf and be intrigued, or i can look at the ipad ang go *yaaawn* haha
but i guess i'll have to evolve someday seeing as all my hobbys are slowly but surely entering a digital era
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 8, 2011 18:00:48 GMT -5
I'm like TRW. The older I get the less desire I feel to have tons and tons of stuff laying around. I'd rather have a small hard drive filled with all my comics and all my books than boxes and boxes of comics and large bookshelves filled with books.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Oct 9, 2011 2:40:19 GMT -5
I love my DC graphic novel collection and I love collecting them. Digital is a lot more convenient, but not as fun.
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Post by threehgame on Oct 9, 2011 2:47:42 GMT -5
In my closet there are 10 storage boxes full of comics. I have no room or any place to put them. They are under boxes of other things and I rarely dig them out. I have gone as far as buy a TPB of a story arc to avoid having to dig them out.
On the computer I type this on I have access to ever Fantastic Four, Green Lantern and Captain Marvel (Big Red Cheese) comic not to mention pretty much every comic book ever printed. The computer takes up very little space and has access to music to listen to as I read my comics.
All that said, I am fully behind the digital comics so long as the comic book companies push the medium. This could be a return to a short daily comic, a weekly 10 page comic or an epic 10,000 page monster story. The digital art craze could return and transform the look of some comics for the better.
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Post by luchafan1 on Oct 9, 2011 12:06:19 GMT -5
it's convenient alright, just no fun at all.
i have another comparison actually, what if...you spend your whole life building up a personal home theather, amassing a room full of dvd/movie shelfs,being very proud and awesome visual.
then somebody comes along that goes" well i have even more movies then you but i just get them on my pc and store them there !"
bottom line to me is, your computer can get you anything you want, comics, books,movies,games you name it, everything is to be found online somwhere.
but to me it is such a sterile, utterly boring way of living out my hobbys....i LOVE buying movies,putting them on shelfs, i LOVE buying videogames and checking out the boxes ( well not so much these days but i sure did in the snes era), and i LOVE buying comics and holding them and the feeling you get when you own a complete series,and for older comics i love the smell,or like, when you buy something in the store, go have a drink and get a better look at your newly bought item, unwrapping it and get a quick peak, and if your with a mate, there's usually a small talk about said items that follows,it's just... it's all so very much part of the appeal to me and stirp that all away and i'm not even sure if i would still wanna be part of it.
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Post by EAW on Oct 9, 2011 14:49:52 GMT -5
Digital is a lot more convenient, but not as fun. |
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Post by KrimV on Oct 13, 2011 16:27:48 GMT -5
I don't think there's yet an affordable, well-sized, well-organized, and well-priced option for digital comic books yet.
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Post by k5 on Oct 15, 2011 17:07:13 GMT -5
honestly, i enjoy both medians as means of reading, along with gaming. there is positives and negatives to both - eventually, i imagine having old comics will be quite nostalgic to me.
i enjoy older comics already for their form of a history lesson - in the ads, the story contents, the paper used - so i don't really mind if the new comics become solely digital as the comics themselves these days feel like a digitized version of what i originally loved.
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Post by LA Times on Oct 19, 2011 14:40:29 GMT -5
Great thread. I dont own an ipad, notebook, laptop, etc, so I dont like it. When music shifted from CDs to digital download, I stopped listening to music. When video games shifted to online play with 3rd person shooters being the most popular type of game, I stopped playing video games. At least action figures wont go digital, I think...
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Post by ZT on Oct 19, 2011 16:32:36 GMT -5
I don't get a lot of time to read comics. Well, I take that back. I do have time to read comics, but when I have that time, a stack of comics isn't the most convient thing in the world to carry around. I think I would be more inclined to read comics if I had a tablet, like an iPad, where I could carry around TONS of comics at once.
I'm all for digital.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 20, 2011 9:43:29 GMT -5
I have about 30 GB of Comics on my Touchpad that I got for $150 at their fire sale. Comics are usually about 20-30 mb files so you can do the math. It's basically a dedicated comic book reader.
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Post by threehgame on Oct 21, 2011 22:59:36 GMT -5
I have about 30 GB of Comics on my Touchpad that I got for $150 at their fire sale. Comics are usually about 20-30 mb files so you can do the math. It's basically a dedicated comic book reader. What type of files are your comics packed in? I am trying to find the best picture quality while keeping the files under 30mb. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 22, 2011 18:54:37 GMT -5
I have about 30 GB of Comics on my Touchpad that I got for $150 at their fire sale. Comics are usually about 20-30 mb files so you can do the math. It's basically a dedicated comic book reader. What type of files are your comics packed in? I am trying to find the best picture quality while keeping the files under 30mb. I use CBR archives and a few CBZ, but I don't know if that answers your question or not. To be honest I couldn't care less about the picture quality as long as it's not extremely bad. The comics look fine to me so I'm probably not the best one to ask. |
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Post by luchafan1 on Oct 23, 2011 13:12:58 GMT -5
Great thread. I dont own an ipad, notebook, laptop, etc, so I dont like it. When music shifted from CDs to digital download, I stopped listening to music. When video games shifted to online play with 3rd person shooters being the most popular type of game, I stopped playing video games. At least action figures wont go digital, I think... Now this....this is exactly what i did, good to see i'm not the only one that was so hugely turned off by the changes.. i was never much of a cd buying type but i liked looking at them and have the occasional buy,which was then usually something film related like soundtracks. now theres this itunes stuff and whatnot and i don't even bother checking it out, only music i listen too is what's on the radio and i could care less about the rest. My passion for videogames died aorund the tame games went 3D, i was playing videogames from the moment i woke up untill i went to bed again as a kid, i really, really filled my childhood with my nes,snes and genesis and not a day goes by,even now, when i don't have flashbacks to classic games and think about those days and chuckle at the nostalgic feeling i get out of it. but anyway, as much as i liked my playstation and n64, i could sense that something changed that could never be undone. but i kept playing and liking my new games untill the ps2 era really got going and there became much more focus on making games as realisitc as possible, and shooters and rpg becoming the order of the day, 2 genres i never ,ever liked and never will....but even tho my passion got smashed and the fire was only a little candle still flickering, i did stay into games and having the occasional great one, untill the focus really shifted to the online community thing and almost being forced to go online if you want to have the full game experiance. ok that was it, i got fed up and walked away. so then there were comics books, and as i clearly mentioned in my early posts, now that the focus is slowly but surely shifting to their digital form, i'm afraid i won't be in this hobby much longer either...anyone could rub my face in the positives off online comics all day long, i would still be the disgusted fan and not care one bit, and rather walk away no matter how painfull it is. i never had any interest whatsoever in buying ipads,iphones, or any other new technology fad thing, there is nothing that interests me about it and i know i wouldn't use it anyway if i had one..so comics, as much as i love'em, won't make me turn to the other side either, i refuse t ogo buy some ipad just to read my comic....i morally refuse to follow the digital age and i'll just end up being the bitter " in my days we had.." grumpy old man ;D |
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Post by threehgame on Oct 23, 2011 13:33:08 GMT -5
What type of files are your comics packed in? I am trying to find the best picture quality while keeping the files under 30mb. I use CBR archives and a few CBZ, but I don't know if that answers your question or not. To be honest I couldn't care less about the picture quality as long as it's not extremely bad. The comics look fine to me so I'm probably not the best one to ask. Thanks. I use CBRs to. Mine are usually 15 to 20mb. I have a friend that turns his comics into high quality pdfs which are sharp but are 60 to 70mb each. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 23, 2011 17:18:57 GMT -5
I think the Kindle Fire will make this digital move even faster. Apparently Amazon and DC have signed some sort of deal to make at least some of their TPBs digital exclusives. For $9.99 you can download a TPB right to your Kindle Fire.
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