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Post by done on Oct 21, 2011 11:57:38 GMT -5
1. Mark Henry vs Big Show - boring 2. John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio - won't have a clean finish so no one goes over 3. CM Punk/HHH vs. Miz/R Truth - boring unless CM Punk or HHH makes a heel turn 4. Cody Rhodes vs. Randy Orton - beyond boring 5. Beth Phoenix vs. Eve Torres - it is what it is, a 5-minute divas match. 6. Air Boom vs. Swagger/Ziggler - will be very good wrestling wise but not much else Possibly the worst PPV card of 2011. I agree with you on some level but I think you forgot about OTL. Plus I see probably one more match to be added. Probably straight after the Tag Title match(Ziggler and Swagger win) Ryder gets his U.S. title match or something. I think they should just put Diva PPV matches as Dark Matches.
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Post by wabarrett on Oct 21, 2011 14:54:24 GMT -5
I miss the days when the cards would have 7 or 8 matches and they pretty much all seemed a big deal. When the cards were built up over a whole month, rather than being thrown together on the Monday before the PPV. I think the LMS will be fun but will probably have a bad ending, and other than seeing Punk and Triple H team up, I don't really care that much about the rest of the Vengeance card...
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Post by Rule 30 on Oct 21, 2011 15:02:42 GMT -5
This card could be really good or really bad.
Mark Henry vs. Show COULD be good, but it should really be NO DQ. I'm sure Alberto and John will put on a good LMS match. Miz, Punk, and Hunter are great workers and Truth is no slouch either. Cody/Orton will be great along with the tag and Sheamus/Christian will be a good match as well if it's put on the card.
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Post by Spoder Juan on Oct 21, 2011 15:10:20 GMT -5
1. Mark Henry vs Big Show - boring 2. John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio - won't have a clean finish so no one goes over 3. CM Punk/HHH vs. Miz/R Truth - boring unless CM Punk or HHH makes a heel turn 4. Cody Rhodes vs. Randy Orton - beyond boring 5. Beth Phoenix vs. Eve Torres - it is what it is, a 5-minute divas match. 6. Air Boom vs. Swagger/Ziggler - will be very good wrestling wise but not much else Possibly the worst PPV card of 2011. LOL the worst? I think this PPV has potential, Rhodes and Orton will steal the show forsure, I think the tag match will be cancelled for reasons you will see on smackdown tonight , Awesome Truth vs Punk and HHH will expand the storyline and we might see kevin nash or someone returning. Honestly its unpredictable but as far as this with OVL and Wrestlemania 27, etc. I disagree
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 22:41:38 GMT -5
ZACK RYDER WILL BE ON PPV!!!
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Post by ilovethecenation on Oct 22, 2011 6:46:02 GMT -5
ZACK RYDER WILL BE ON PPV!!! You know it!
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Oct 22, 2011 9:54:19 GMT -5
Soon, Zack Ryder will know what his former mentor knew all along...DOUBLE GOLD RULES!
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Post by juicewinslow on Oct 22, 2011 13:56:51 GMT -5
I've got a feeling my bwoy, D. Bryan, will cash in the briefcase tonight. Big Show and Mark Henry will destroy each other tomorrow night.
I am going to miss this PPV unfortunately. Going to a show. Hope it's good and hope I can somehow watch the replay.
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Post by Phantom on Oct 22, 2011 15:33:41 GMT -5
Love Ziggler to death but the Ryder fan in me wants him to win. The guy worked his ass off to fet on the show and get over. C'mon Zack bring the US Gold to LI!
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Post by Nick on Oct 22, 2011 15:35:40 GMT -5
I'll be there! Can't wait. The card looks alright.
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 22, 2011 16:23:09 GMT -5
I dont know why the hatred for this card is for. I think it looks great. Except for the Divas and World Title match all the matches all sound great. Christian v Sheamus, Orton v Cody, Punk-HHH v Truth-Miz, Ziggler v Ryder, the Tag Title match all should be good to great matches. Cena v ADR should be ok given the stip as Cena is a much better brawler than wrestler.
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Post by Barrett on Oct 22, 2011 18:15:50 GMT -5
You might have been asking yourself, "I wonder how Barrett would book tomorrow night's PPV..." Well wonder no more, friend! Because here is how I would book tomorrow night's PPV from open to close:
WWE Championship: Last Man Standing Match: John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio If a World Title match can kick off PPVs like Royal Rumble and Wrestle-freaking-Mania, then it can sure as hell open Vengeance. I've never cared for the pairing of Cena/Del Rio. Cena has to team up with some movie star next month, so it's pretty much carved in stone that he won't be regaining the title. Why end the show with a foregone conclusion, when you can open the show with John Cena and really get the crowd in a frenzy. At worst, this will be another round of Cena/Miz from Over the Limit (which, coincidentally, I just watched for the first time today - pretty terrible). But since Cena shouldn't leave with the title, I don't think we'll see that. So how do we put Del Rio over Cena? Something screwy and gimmicky, of course. I suggest using Del Rio's car of the night as part of the finish. Seriously, find a way to run over Cena or something that keeps him down for 10 seconds but doesn't keep him off Raw the next night when he can have his final rematch.
Tag Team Championship: Air Boom vs. Dolph Ziggler/Jack Swagger Air Boom retains. Swagger/Ziggler bicker.
Divas Championship: Eve vs. Beth Phoenix Despite what the crew of AfterBuzzTV for some reason unanimously agreed upon, Beth most likely remains. Perhaps she and Natalya can then move on to some other Divas besides Kelly/Eve. I'd like to see one of those two faces turn on the other and they can have their own thing going on. But since Divas only get one segment a night, that is quite unlikely. Most importantly: when does AJ get a title shot?
Christian vs. Sheamus Who won at Hell in a Cell? The other guy wins here, I suppose. I haven't been keeping up with this feud beyond what has taken place on Raw lately, so I don't recall who has momentum going into this. Chances are they'll both wind up in a Survivor Series Elimination Tag Match next month, so it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Should be an entertaining match though.
World Heavyweight Championship: Mark Henry vs. The Big Show Henry should definitely retain. I think this one could go either way: either a trainwreck or a fun brawl. Their best bet is to keep it short, sweet, and to the point. Maybe Big Show works himself into a frenzy and winds up getting himself DQ'd and gets a rematch at Survivor Series.
Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes This one could be MOTN. Orton will most likely win, and storyline wise there really isn't any reason for him not to. As long as they don't stop focusing on Rhodes after this PPV, I don't care one way or the other.
US Championship: Zack Ryder vs. Dolph Ziggler In my perfect world Ziggler gets a ton of screen time tonight. In all actuality, this match will probably be a 30 second squash immediately following the tag match. But I'm the booker, damn it! So anyways, at some point in the night, there is a backstage segment where Swagger blames Ziggler for their loss and refuses to stand behind him in this match. He persuades Vickie to do the same, so Ziggler's going at it on his own. Really glad that Ryder's first singles PPV match is against his pal Dolph. They should pull out all the stops to make the match as good as they can. Swagger probably costs Ziggler the match somehow and Ryder gets to wear two belts on ZTLIS next week. And all of our hearts will be warmed.
Triple H & CM Punk vs. Awesome Truth This is still pretty much the main focal point of the Raw brand and, like the opening contest, if Trips/Punk can main event an all-championship PPV in a match which isn't for a championship, then they can main event Vengeance too. Should be a great match. The only weak link, skill-wise, is R-Truth but there's no reason he shouldn't be able to hold his own in this environment. I would have Awesome Truth pick up the win here, due to something incredibly screwy and conspiracy-ridden. A Kevin Nash return sounds about right to me. No reason why Laurinitis wouldn't rehire his old pal. Also, the idea of Punk/Triple H celebrating at the end of a PPV just seems wrong to me.
All in all, despite the couple of lame weeks we've had with disappointing storylines, the potential quality of most of the matches on the show should make it worth watching at some point. I'll wait for the DVD.
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Post by xtremeperil on Oct 23, 2011 0:47:23 GMT -5
Just going to give my predictions/thoughts on the matches...
Sheamus vs. Christian: Great addition to this card. While I expected better, their match at Hell In A Cell was really good. With these two, I'm definitely expecting a better match, hopefully above my expectations. My prediction for winner is Sheamus.
Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes: Match of the night probably. I'm not sure on my prediction here. The fact that it's not for the Intercontinental title tells me that Orton is winning. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Rhodes got the victory. So, I guess I'm going with Orton here.
CM Punk & Triple H vs. Awesome Truth: Match-wise, I'm not really interested here. I'm sure the action will be fine, but I can't imagine it being any better than that, and to be honest, I just don't have any interest in this. This is probably due to the fact that I stopped watching Raw live in quite some time, but I read, sometimes watch online, the stuff that happens on Raw and it just doesn't seem like I'm missing anything too great. Outcome-wise, I'm curious to see whose winning here. Pretty much all matches involving Punk since Money In The Bank had some swerve so I'm excited to see where this leads. If I had to pick, Triple H & CM Punk pick up the win here. My main reasoning being Punk is suppose to be entering a feud with Del Rio.
Diva's Championship - Beth Phoenix vs. Eve: I expect a solid bout here. I'm not going to explain why I feel that with Beth, but I actually always thought was one of the better diva wrestlers. Hell, she's probably my favorite Diva in WWE now. Considering Kelly Kelly is possibly my least favorite current WWE Diva, definite improvement over the last few PPV's. Beth is going to retain here.
Tag Championships - Air Boom vs. Jack Swagger & Dolph Ziggler: Looking at this with Ziggler defending his US title against Ryder the same night, makes me think that Swagger is Mr. Z. Anyway, their tag match at Hell In A Cell was my second favorite match of the night so I'm fine with the rematch. I see Air Boom retaining here. They're trying to revive the tag division, having Air Boom dropping it this quickly wouldn't help that.
United States Championship - Dolph Ziggler vs. Zack Ryder: Possible show stealer, but I doubt it will. This match is probably the hardest to predict, as I can easily see both Dolph and Zack winning. In this case, I'll go with the opposite of what I want to see, and say Zack Ryder will win the title. Actually, I'm feeling optimistic, Dolph to retain.
World Championship - Mark Henry vs. Big Show: Well, this will be terrible, save for a potential Kane return. Mark Henry isn't losing the belt for awhile, definitely winning here.
WWE Championship - Alberto Del Rio vs. John Cena: This Last Man Standing match could end up being a really good match. I really don't see this winding up as a bad match. As for the winner, Del Rio. Not only am I predicting Del Rio to win, I'm still predicting that Del Rio (or Ricardo Rodriguez) will park his car on John to keep him down for the ten car.
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Post by ilovethecenation on Oct 23, 2011 9:42:09 GMT -5
Here is my hopeful card and explanation US title- Dolph Ziggler retains I'm a broski, in the Ryder Revolution, but I'd rather see these two really feud and and have Ryder win at Survivor Series in Madison Square Garden, or draw it out until WrestleMania. WWE title- Del Rio retains Cena needs to focus, booking wise, on his WrestleMania match with the Rock, and the Rock coming back at SS. ADR needs the title, and a longer reign. WHC- Henry retains Henry should hold onto it until at least WrestleMania, maybe feud with Sheamus or somebody. Punk/HHH v. Miz/Truth- anything could please me here. I want Miz to win, but maybe the conspiracy, he plot, will thicken. Maybe HHH will turn hell, maybe Punk will. Sheamus defeats Christian- Sheamus looks like he's being pushed to be the next John Cena, so he needs to win. Cody vs. Orton- Rhodes needs it to be elevated.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Oct 23, 2011 10:44:08 GMT -5
Still not too pumped, but a little more excited than previously.
Sheamus vs Christian and Zack Ryder vs Dolph Ziggler has certainly lifted the mood.
It could be a good pay-per-view and I should enjoy watching it tomorrow.
My predictions are:
John Cena Mark Henry (Daniel Bryan cashes in) Sheamus Cody Rhodes Awesome Truth Zack Ryder AirBoom Beth Phoenix
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Post by lewaldo95 on Oct 23, 2011 11:15:45 GMT -5
Quite excited for this ppv maybe a little more so because i don't have to pay for it here in the UK. Anyway just thought i'd give my thoughts/predictions. Sheamus vs. Christian: I want to see christian win to continue this fued one more ppv at survivor series but i predict sheamus will win simply because i see him moving on to be number one contender to the WHC. Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes: I'm a huge Cody Rhodes fan but sadly i don't see Orton losing another ppv match so im picking Orton but this match could definately elevate Rhodes to the next level. Tag Championships - Air Boom vs. Jack Swagger & Dolph Ziggler: Im going for Ziggler and Swagger to win this one simply because i don't see ziggler winning two matches in one night. Which kinda gives away my next prediction..... United States Championship - Dolph Ziggler vs. Zack Ryder: Gotta go with Zack Ryder finally getting the push he's worked his ass off for. World Championship - Mark Henry vs. Big Show: Really not a huge fan of Mark Henry but he has been impressive as of late and i don't see him dropping the belt here. My Pick Mark Henry. But i wouldn't be surprised to see a return of Kane at some point during or after this match. Diva's Championship - Beth Phoenix vs. Eve: Im picking Beth to retain here after all shes only had the belt 3 weeks and i don't see them taking it off her already. WWE Championship - Alberto Del Rio vs. John Cena: Simply put Del Rio has to win this match i don't know weather they'll be outside interference or not but they have too keep the belt on Del Rio after all Cena's attention needs to switch to The Rock and there match at survivor series and i see an ADR vs Punk match for the title at Survivor Series likely to happen also. CM Punk & Triple H vs. Awesome Truth: First off i see this being the main event simply because i don't think HHH would want to wrestle anywhere else on the card and plus the fact that this has been the main storyline on raw. My Pick is Truth and Miz with some help from either lauriniatus or nash to build towards survivor series. Overall i have high hopes for this ppv and think it has the potential to be better than people expect it to be.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Oct 23, 2011 12:22:13 GMT -5
Just a thought provoked by the above poster... Cena and The Rock are teaming together at Survivor Series. Would the belt be a hinderance to Cena? He couldn't defend the belt if he's in a traditional match.. Therefore, does that mean Alberto Del Rio wins tonight? And if so, how the hell will Cena actually succumb to a 10 count? Interference from The Rock? I hope I'm not looking too far into it.. because I do not want the pay-per-view to end with that annoying 'Baa-doo-da-doo'.
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Post by Phantom on Oct 23, 2011 13:23:18 GMT -5
Predictions:
Air Boom def. Swag Zag (Should be great just like their match at HIAC)
Ryder def. Ziggler (New Champ baby! Probably a short match)
Christian def. Sheamus (dirty tactic)
Randy Orton def Rhodes (I'll be pulling for Rhodes but I dont think he will go over)
Big Show def. Mark Henry (DQ, Kane comes out and beats the hell out of Henry)
Divas Match. Dont really care. Beth should retain but it wouldnt be surprised if Eve pulls it off.
Punk/HHH vs. Awesome Truth (Hard to say, Truth/Miz should win so they look strong going into SS)
Del Rio def. Cena (Maybe Nash comes out and jackknifes Cena, maybe Awesome Truth come out and help Del Rio, either way their should be some shenanigans. Theres no need to put the strap back on Cena)
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Post by wabarrett on Oct 23, 2011 13:39:20 GMT -5
I still feel like this PPV has had a poor build, but I am kind of looking forward to seeing it. Glad it's on Sky Sports though. I'm hoping Del Rio retains, Cena winning the Title for a fourth time in 2011 would frankly be taking the piss. Even if it's a double countout so Cena doesn't actually get beat, as long as ADR retains I'm happy. See, I'm not biased!
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Oct 23, 2011 14:19:52 GMT -5
Free PPV! I can just switch my TV over to the channel with the greatest of ease!! you gotta love it!
I'm actually liking this card. Double duty for Ziggler & Triple H is competing. Looking forward Punk/HHH Vs. Miz/Truth. I'll be pissed if Cena wins because these title changes are pointless & ridiculous.
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