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Post by Scotty on Oct 17, 2011 13:42:48 GMT -5
I'd love to see Ron wear a Vendetta mask just for the lolz
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Post by T R W on Oct 17, 2011 13:42:55 GMT -5
It's funny, because a long while back, I said my dream ticket would be Ron Paul/Herman Cain and that it was a pipe dream. Now they are both polling very well. Weird.
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Post by slappy on Oct 17, 2011 13:45:23 GMT -5
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Oct 17, 2011 15:12:52 GMT -5
Does it make you feel good to go around and bash a candidate you refuse to research enough to get past some old and refuted claims of racism? Why don't you go attack Herman Cain who said he wants alligators guarding the border and an electric fence? Paul wants neither of those things. How did I bash Ron Paul? All I did was ask how it feels to see that a group of cyber terrorists, which they are cyber terrorists, supports a candidate. For who ever says they arent cyber terrorists, it makes me laugh you call them freedom fighters. How will you gain freedom by attacking a video game company? Im sure Al qaeda thinks it is a group of freedom fighters as well, but to you and me they are no good terrorists. You really, REALLY need to get your facts straight. Your credibility just keeps going down more and more with every post you make. WAKE UP AND STOP BEING IGNORANT!!
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Oct 17, 2011 17:45:22 GMT -5
I'm not so sure on cutting all the departments, maybe cut them way back. But I'd have to look more into what he wants. I like his wanting to cut elected officials wages way back. They don't need the pay they're getting just to inflate their egos and bank accounts, then not really do a whole lot for those they elected. I like his plan, Ron Paul just needs massive support to get to where the media would project him as electable. Anonymous doesn't count, most news networks still project them as "terrorists" due to not really giving a damn about facts. I'm not a full Ron Paul supporter, but I like his ideas over any other Republican candidate, he has the most drastic overhaul of the government that's being shown as necessary these days.
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Post by slappy on Oct 17, 2011 17:47:52 GMT -5
I'm not so sure on cutting all the departments, maybe cut them way back. But I'd have to look more into what he wants. I like his wanting to cut elected officials wages way back. They don't need the pay they're getting just to inflate their egos and bank accounts, then not really do a whole lot for those they elected. I like his plan, Ron Paul just needs massive support to get to where the media would project him as electable. Anonymous doesn't count, most news networks still project them as "terrorists" due to not really giving a damn about facts. I'm not a full Ron Paul supporter, but I like his ideas over any other Republican candidate, he has the most drastic overhaul of the government that's being shown as necessary these days. A few posts above yours, I posted a link with the exact cuts and how much for each department. Easier to see that way than just taking out department A, B and C.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 17, 2011 18:39:49 GMT -5
If I were supporting a candidate who had no chance of winning, I'd want to remain anonymous too. That's why no one knows I voted for Bob Barr. ...crap. If I wanted to support a candidate who had the best chance of winning, I would place a bet on them. I wouldn't just vote for them blindly like a tool.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 17, 2011 18:42:04 GMT -5
It's funny, because a long while back, I said my dream ticket would be Ron Paul/Herman Cain and that it was a pipe dream. Now they are both polling very well. Weird. There is absolutely zero chance in hell that Ron would go on a ticket with Herman Cain.
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Post by Adam on Oct 17, 2011 18:43:21 GMT -5
I'm not so sure on cutting all the departments, maybe cut them way back. But I'd have to look more into what he wants. I like his wanting to cut elected officials wages way back. They don't need the pay they're getting just to inflate their egos and bank accounts, then not really do a whole lot for those they elected. I would elect him alone on foreign policy. Mainly because that's probably one of the easiest fixes for this country, but main-stream conservatives whether it be a politician, radio host, or author are too drunk on American exceptionalism to realize how much our world empire and these useless wars are costing us. I like his plan, Ron Paul just needs massive support to get to where the media would project him as electable. Anonymous doesn't count, most news networks still project them as "terrorists" due to not really giving a damn about facts. Don't hold your breathe. The media clearly doesn't care what following he has, otherwise he'd be getting as much coverage as Romney, Cain, and Perry. This is the government/media that wants to label Wikileaks a terrorist organization. I'm not a full Ron Paul supporter, but I like his ideas over any other Republican candidate, he has the most drastic overhaul of the government that's being shown as necessary these days. That's not what the other politicians, nor the media wants. It doesn't help that Ron Paul has the difficult task of appealing to peoples' reason when they're used to having they're emotions appealed to.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 17, 2011 19:12:18 GMT -5
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Post by Adam on Oct 17, 2011 19:32:44 GMT -5
I can't stand Tony Perkins.
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Post by carling27 on Oct 17, 2011 20:12:52 GMT -5
The Charlie Chaplin clip is the ending scene of his classic 'The Great Dictator'. Saw it a few months ago, it's a wonderful film.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 17, 2011 23:22:55 GMT -5
How did I bash Ron Paul? All I did was ask how it feels to see that a group of cyber terrorists, which they are cyber terrorists, supports a candidate. For who ever says they arent cyber terrorists, it makes me laugh you call them freedom fighters. How will you gain freedom by attacking a video game company? Im sure Al qaeda thinks it is a group of freedom fighters as well, but to you and me they are no good terrorists. By calling his supporters terrorists. Anonymous and lulzsec are two different groups. Lulzsec stole information, anonymous did not. Bashing his supporters? Did I say Anonymous stinks? NO. Did I say Anonymous is no good? NO. I just called them terrorists, a terrorist installs fear/terror into the people they are attacking. I bet you the people Anonymous attacks fear the attacks. Me calling them terrorist is not me bashing them, it is me calling it as I see it. Like if I call you a Wfig board member....... maybe someone would see it as me bashing you BUT it is me calling you what I see you as.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 17, 2011 23:39:46 GMT -5
I have researched my claims, it is why I state them. You seem to get all your facts from Ronpaul.com so obviously they will tell you he is the greatest thing since sliced bread on there. You have not researched much since you keep going on about how he's a racist. The head of the Atlanta NAACP has come out and said he's not racist. You just say he is so you can justify your hatred of him. You have no other way to justify it so you dig down to say he's racist when he's not. I don't know why you are stuck on the race issue so much. Why don't you focus on another issue? I Hate ron Paul only because I have heard him speak. I KNOW he is a racist only because I've heard him speak. I am stuck on the issue of race because I am not white, nor do I have blonde hair, nor do I have blue eyes. I am stuck on the issue of race because I have felt racism first hand. I am stuck on race issue because it sickens me when there are presidential debates and the immigration issues arent even mentioned, as if they do not exist. I am stuck on the race issue because of people like Mr. Ron Paul who has come out and said he wants to change the constitution so that not everyone is a citizen amoung a hand full of other racist things. Seriously? You guys suport someone who wants to take constitutional rights away? Im just curious as to what racial background Kliquid and slappy and other ron paul supporters are? I bet you are white, only because you brush off the race issue like it is nothing. He comes out with fairy tale plans on how to cut spending and create a budget surplus and you all think he is the second comming of christ. Anyone can create graphs, charts, budget plans and pretend like its accurate. I assure you not one single presidential hopefull wants to get the country further in debt, but because they dont make phony plans you all dont fall in love.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 18, 2011 4:40:59 GMT -5
I Hate ron Paul only because I have heard him speak. I KNOW he is a racist only because I've heard him speak. You're a ing idiot who never cites any sources. off already. Jesus... I am stuck on the issue of race because I am not white, nor do I have blonde hair, nor do I have blue eyes. I am stuck on the issue of race because I have felt racism first hand. I am stuck on race issue because it sickens me when there are presidential debates and the immigration issues arent even mentioned, as if they do not exist. I am stuck on the race issue because of people like Mr. Ron Paul who has come out and said he wants to change the constitution so that not everyone is a citizen amoung a hand full of other racist things. Again, you're an idiot who doesn't understand the Constitution whatsoever. Seriously? You guys suport someone who wants to take constitutional rights away? LMFAO @ you thinking RON PAUL of ALL PEOPLE wants to "take peoples rights way." You're honestly the worst troll ever. You're not even slightly knowledgable on the subjects. Im just curious as to what racial background Kliquid and slappy and other ron paul supporters are? I bet you are white, only because you brush off the race issue like it is nothing. I'm a white male, as is Slappy. Slappy is, however, a "minority" in his sexual preference. Ron Paul has made it clear that he personally doesn't support the gay lifestyle... But guess what - he's not going to take anyone's rights away. You see, Slappy is an intelligent person who actually looks at the facts, unlike yourself who has consistently shoved his head up his ass for something like a year now. He comes out with fairy tale plans on how to cut spending and create a budget surplus and you all think he is the second comming of christ. Anyone can create graphs, charts, budget plans and pretend like its accurate. I assure you not one single presidential hopefull wants to get the country further in debt, but because they dont make phony plans you all dont fall in love. What part of it is phony? Again, you're just making poop up. SHOCKING. Why don't you actually research things before you talk so incoherently about them? It's almost as if you're a masochist who enjoys being ripped apart at every turn.
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Post by slappy on Oct 18, 2011 8:43:37 GMT -5
By calling his supporters terrorists. Anonymous and lulzsec are two different groups. Lulzsec stole information, anonymous did not. Bashing his supporters? Did I say Anonymous stinks? NO. Did I say Anonymous is no good? NO. I just called them terrorists, a terrorist installs fear/terror into the people they are attacking. I bet you the people Anonymous attacks fear the attacks. Me calling them terrorist is not me bashing them, it is me calling it as I see it. Like if I call you a Wfig board member....... maybe someone would see it as me bashing you BUT it is me calling you what I see you as. "I'm not attacking his supporters, I'm just calling them terrorists." With that very broad definition, we could label anyone a terrorist. That's how they get away with holding people indefinitely. Race or issues regarding race should not be your only concern. Gay rights is not my only concern. You said you know he is racist from what he has said? What has he said that is racist? Please link me somewhere where I can hear the racist things he has said. Don't link me to that video of him talking about the 14th amendment because that's not racism no matter how hard you want it to be so. (Don't know if a embedded video will play at the exact time I want it to so I just linked it instead.) Paul gave a detailed plan not just 9-9-9 which can be used in a sound byte and which raises taxes on people.
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Post by King of Kings on Oct 18, 2011 8:57:51 GMT -5
I feel like a whole lot of people should be required to take a test before they vote, to ensure they know about politics. I'm sick of ignorant people just going in and blindly voting without actually knowing jack crapabout who they're voting for. Someone in this topic seems like that kind of guy except his ignorance is based on false facts that have been presented to him as truths.
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Post by BCizzle on Oct 18, 2011 12:11:16 GMT -5
He comes out with fairy tale plans on how to cut spending and create a budget surplus and you all think he is the second comming of christ. Anyone can create graphs, charts, budget plans and pretend like its accurate. I assure you not one single presidential hopefull wants to get the country further in debt, but because they dont make phony plans you all dont fall in love. I do agree with this about his fairy tale plan. But it seems like in this thread harsh reality will just fall on deaf ears.
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Post by slappy on Oct 18, 2011 12:12:59 GMT -5
He comes out with fairy tale plans on how to cut spending and create a budget surplus and you all think he is the second comming of christ. Anyone can create graphs, charts, budget plans and pretend like its accurate. I assure you not one single presidential hopefull wants to get the country further in debt, but because they dont make phony plans you all dont fall in love. I do agree with this about his fairy tale plan. But it seems like in this thread harsh reality will just fall on deaf ears. Did you look at the plan? It's a detailed plan of what he would do. Doesn't it count for something that he's not spouting off rhetoric or talking points, he's actually giving ideas and plans and proposals?
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 18, 2011 13:03:44 GMT -5
He comes out with fairy tale plans on how to cut spending and create a budget surplus and you all think he is the second comming of christ. Anyone can create graphs, charts, budget plans and pretend like its accurate. I assure you not one single presidential hopefull wants to get the country further in debt, but because they dont make phony plans you all dont fall in love. I do agree with this about his fairy tale plan. But it seems like in this thread harsh reality will just fall on deaf ears. So, are you actually going to make a point, or are you just going to vaguely state things that have no backing whatsoever? I'm more than willing to debate with people if they actually have something to debate. But you're not providing any reasons why you feel a certain way. There's nothing to debate, nothing to disagree or even agree with.
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