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Post by He Hate Me on Oct 16, 2011 18:39:10 GMT -5
I really miss the way WWE used to build up characters through vignettes. All it took was 3 minutes or so but it was a chance to make characters more recognizable to the crowds. Rather than todays product where most characters seem generic. I figured Id make a thread to salute the good ol days of character development. Here's two of my favorites. |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Oct 16, 2011 19:30:29 GMT -5
The problem here is that there is a noticeable absence of true characters in pro wrestling. These days it seems as if every new guy fits a generic mold: standard build, standard boots, standard trunks, neutered rock entrance music. There is not much that sets them apart from the rest of the roster.
If you want a good example of effective vignettes look at the ones created for the original Mankind character. They were dark and uneasy; perfectly mimicking the strange figure Mick Foley was portraying.
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 16, 2011 19:35:25 GMT -5
I loved the ore debut vignette of Goldust. He first quotes Night of the Living dead and then goes into talking about Taker.
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 16, 2011 19:39:11 GMT -5
Mankinds was great!!! Everyone of the original ones was awesome. I am watching some now and think they are funny as heel. Repo man "this lady is 3 days late on her payment, thats no lady thats a car theif" "Lady screams,Make your payments or shut up" Funny stuff!
My fav Mankind lines same vignette
"The time has come to relieve that pain...which will be better for me but not so enjoyable for all of you"
"Leave the light on....I'm coming home"
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Post by Brad on Oct 17, 2011 11:56:14 GMT -5
While I understand what is being said here, and can agree to an extent, there just isn't a place for the over the top characters of the 80's and 90's in today's society. People would laugh them out of the building.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 12:04:27 GMT -5
Goodness I LOVED those old promos.
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Post by Beck on Oct 17, 2011 12:35:25 GMT -5
Del Rio got these, to be fair.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 12:54:29 GMT -5
ah yes the classic vignettes........
mankiinds were awesome-when he attcked the Undertaker a series of times after WM12 I was pumped for their feud.
these vignettes AND UTs selling of Mankinds attacks really put him over the top.
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 17, 2011 20:40:46 GMT -5
While I understand what is being said here, and can agree to an extent, there just isn't a place for the over the top characters of the 80's and 90's in today's society. People would laugh them out of the building. I agree with you to a point. People loved the ones for Carlito and if you go back to the ones for Razor Ramon they are the same thing with different wrestlers. But one of Razors first vignettes he was at one of the street markets picks up what I think is a plum but others have said it was an apple takes a bite spits it in the market workers face and then again at the camera. Carlito did the same thing and people loved it. |
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Post by candygallows on Oct 17, 2011 21:55:48 GMT -5
Mankind and Goldust are the 2 that really came to mind for me. There's were perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 22:05:56 GMT -5
Mankind and Goldust are the 2 that really came to mind for me. There's were perfect. Speaking of perfect...Mr. Perfect had some great ones too! Yeah I think Del Rio is the last one in recent memory to get the vignette treatment. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 11:35:29 GMT -5
Hennig had some AWESOME vignettes while he was with WWF.Vince worked hard to make Mr Perfect one of his go to heels.
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Post by Brad on Oct 18, 2011 13:46:59 GMT -5
While I understand what is being said here, and can agree to an extent, there just isn't a place for the over the top characters of the 80's and 90's in today's society. People would laugh them out of the building. I agree with you to a point. People loved the ones for Carlito and if you go back to the ones for Razor Ramon they are the same thing with different wrestlers. But one of Razors first vignettes he was at one of the street markets picks up what I think is a plum but others have said it was an apple takes a bite spits it in the market workers face and then again at the camera. Carlito did the same thing and people loved it. Yeah, i mean stuff like that would make sense. I guess I was more so talking about the Akeem type that was posted. |
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Post by He Hate Me on Oct 18, 2011 15:08:10 GMT -5
I agree with you to a point. People loved the ones for Carlito and if you go back to the ones for Razor Ramon they are the same thing with different wrestlers. But one of Razors first vignettes he was at one of the street markets picks up what I think is a plum but others have said it was an apple takes a bite spits it in the market workers face and then again at the camera. Carlito did the same thing and people loved it. Yeah, i mean stuff like that would make sense. I guess I was more so talking about the Akeem type that was posted. Akeem was definitely over the top, perfect for that era, horrible if done today. Think of the current technology we have today though, you would not get something like that today. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 20:43:12 GMT -5
Del Rio got these, to be fair. Yeap and it worked out well for him Sin Cara also got them as well as Awesome Kong The Brodus Clay ones are pretty good aswell |
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Oct 18, 2011 23:25:08 GMT -5
Del Rio got these, to be fair. Yeap and it worked out well for him Sin Cara also got them as well as Awesome Kong The Brodus Clay ones are pretty good aswell i agree , the new ones they are doing are pretty good.. if nothing else .. they are at least putting the guys face and name out there.. so when they do show up in a match people at least know who it is... i liked del rios.. but i think they went on for far too long... it got to a point where all i wanted was for his ass to show up so they would stop! |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Oct 19, 2011 0:10:47 GMT -5
Kofi Kingston got some vignettes, CM Punk did. Finlay. Batista switching to RAW, Jericho (twice), Gail Kim (twice), Mordecai, Rey Mysterio, Scott Steiner, La Resistance, Steven Regal, Tazz, Val Venis, Kenzo Susuki, Snitsky's return..
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Post by Burger Lad on Oct 20, 2011 6:05:29 GMT -5
I always enjoyed the classic Ted Dibiase vignettes with Virgil.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 0:32:59 GMT -5
Regards to generic wrestlers, it's reflective of entertainment in general. Look at music, movies, athletes (especially baseball, where now, everybody looks like they just came out of the military vs the ol school guys with mustaches, chewing tobacco and that feel that they would just raise hell on the road).
But wrestling in particular, it seems the training process and schooling (everybody learns the exact same spots, is expected to do top rope spots and bumps, etc regardless of how big you are), and is expected to wear flashy Chris Jericho type tights or boxer tights. Nothing wrong with the ol school briefs!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 0:44:03 GMT -5
Mankind and Goldust are the 2 that really came to mind for me. There's were perfect. Speaking of perfect...Mr. Perfect had some great ones too! Yeah I think Del Rio is the last one in recent memory to get the vignette treatment. |
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