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Post by jammer311 on Oct 21, 2011 13:54:52 GMT -5
I don't believe Bret was scheduled to wrestle Warrior at the Rumble, but maybe at WM 9.
This is what Bret wrote in his book...
"The fanciful vision I'd had of me twisting Warrior into the sharpshooter and him screaming uncle at Wrestlemania 9 vanished forever." That was on Page 303 of the Bret Hart biography.
Also...
"Since Vince was dangerously low on heels, Razor was mega-pushed to the top and set to work with me in January at Royal Rumble 93." That being on Page 304 of Bret's book.
So again, where people are getting their info from for this 'dream 93 lineup" for Bret, is beyond me.
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Oct 21, 2011 16:36:22 GMT -5
The above post is correct. It does not say in his book that the match was ever scheduled, only that his "vision" of the match happening ended with Warrior's firing.
I couldn't find anything about the Wrestlemania match with Savage either. The book has an index and I looked at every page Savage and Wrestlemania 9 appear on, but there is no mention of this match ever being scheduled. From what I remember, it was pretty obvious going into the Rumble that Yoko was winning. He was receiving a monster push and seemed like the obvious choice as the next heel to face Hart.
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Post by HuskerTornado on Oct 21, 2011 16:42:03 GMT -5
I don't see Warrior submitting, that would have been out of character.
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 21, 2011 16:49:11 GMT -5
I don't see Warrior submitting, that would have been out of character. He would have probably tried to have held out for more money again if that was the case. He would have cried about having to tap out and said he would not do it unless they came up with x amount of money. And then done it right before he went out so he leaves them in a bind. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 18:09:53 GMT -5
I don't believe Bret was scheduled to wrestle Warrior at the Rumble, but maybe at WM 9. This is what Bret wrote in his book... "The fanciful vision I'd had of me twisting Warrior into the sharpshooter and him screaming uncle at Wrestlemania 9 vanished forever." That was on Page 303 of the Bret Hart biography. Also... "Since Vince was dangerously low on heels, Razor was mega-pushed to the top and set to work with me in January at Royal Rumble 93." That being on Page 304 of Bret's book. So again, where people are getting their info from for this 'dream 93 lineup" for Bret, is beyond me. ok my mistake. I dont have the book so I dont know. |
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Post by HuskerTornado on Oct 21, 2011 21:14:52 GMT -5
I don't see Warrior submitting, that would have been out of character. He would have probably tried to have held out for more money again if that was the case. He would have cried about having to tap out and said he would not do it unless they came up with x amount of money. And then done it right before he went out so he leaves them in a bind.  Yes, he was the first and only wrestler to ever "hold up" a promoter for more money. The story that is out on that is sensationalized. The Ultimate Warrior character was about intensity personified, never giving up, never surrendering. Having him job to Hart by way of submission would have looked ridiculous. The whole "beating the Big 3" in `93 thing sounds a lot more like Bret Hart fantasy than reality. Maybe he'd get Savage, but matches with Hogan and Warrior just don't make much sense to me without Hart turning heel, which they weren't going to do at that point. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 22:01:25 GMT -5
He would have probably tried to have held out for more money again if that was the case. He would have cried about having to tap out and said he would not do it unless they came up with x amount of money. And then done it right before he went out so he leaves them in a bind. Yes, he was the first and only wrestler to ever "hold up" a promoter for more money. The story that is out on that is sensationalized. The Ultimate Warrior character was about intensity personified, never giving up, never surrendering. Having him job to Hart by way of submission would have looked ridiculous. The whole "beating the Big 3" in `93 thing sounds a lot more like Bret Hart fantasy than reality. Maybe he'd get Savage, but matches with Hogan and Warrior just don't make much sense to me without Hart turning heel, which they weren't going to do at that point. Actually, out of all of those listed his match with Hogan at SummerSlam 1993 was probably the most logical choice and the one closest to actually happening. |
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Post by HuskerTornado on Oct 21, 2011 23:09:10 GMT -5
Actually, out of all of those listed his match with Hogan at SummerSlam 1993 was probably the most logical choice and the one closest to actually happening. A match with Hogan could have worked at SummerSlam, especially if they tied in the Wrestlemania IX situation. Main event face vs face for titles was still pretty rare in 1993, though. Face vs. Face PPV Main Events before 1993: Wrestlemania VI (1990): Hogan/Warrior (Warrior via clean pin) SummerSlam 1992: Savage/Warrior (Warrior via count out) & Hart/Bulldog (Bulldog via clean pin) Having the first 3 PPVs' main events involving that scenario would have been overkill in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 23:35:23 GMT -5
Yeah. I know in Bret's book he says that there was a HUGE shortage of heels at the beginning of 1993. Hence the immediate and strong pushes of Yokozuna & Razor Ramon because they didn't want so many face vs. face main events (as you stated).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2011 14:14:42 GMT -5
then they had to turn Razor face because of crowd reaction towards him!!
hard up for heels is right.
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