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Post by LeighD on Oct 17, 2011 19:55:59 GMT -5
Now it was been stated by numeorus sources that Bret was to have a HUGE year in 1993:
- Ultimate Warrior at the Royal Rumble
- Randy Savage at WrestleMania IX
- Hulk Hogan at SummerSlam
Now it should go without saying, his match with Savage would most likely be an instant classic. However, how do others feel about his potential matches with Hogan & Warrior?
I just have a hard time seeing a great match with Warrior, not because of Warrior's abilities, but because both men's styles really tend to clash. Hogan I think could fair slightly better, but their styles tend to parallel oil and water.
On a side note, anyone remember whom Bret was supposed to face at King of the Ring if he kept this schedule?
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Post by koreygunz on Oct 17, 2011 20:09:08 GMT -5
I agree his match with Macho would have been awesome. I think he could have pulled a decent match out of Hogan at the time. Warrior Im not so sure about. In fact, I thought his match with Razor at Rumble that year was underrated.
As far as KOTR, once the match with Savage was scratched, and Hogan won the title at WM9, I think the plan all along was to have Bret win the KOTR tournament as a way to spring board him into his potential title match with Hogan at SummerSlam.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 17, 2011 20:15:48 GMT -5
Ive heard the rumors on here before but Im curious as to what the "sources" for that line up really is. I just have a hard time believing that McMahon was going to let his 3 biggest stars for the past 10 years just get beat by someone that not many people believed at the time.
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 17, 2011 20:43:52 GMT -5
I think him vs Savage would have been a match that is still talked about. A match with Hogan would have had big hype and a decent match. A match with Warrior would have been horrible. I can't bash Warrior his work rate does that for itself.
I agree his match with Ramon very underrated.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 17, 2011 20:47:30 GMT -5
Bret Hart could have a great match with anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 22:03:33 GMT -5
Bret Hart could have a great match with anyone. This. If Bret could pull great matches with Sycho Sid and Diesel (which he did) then I'm sure he could also pull great matches out of Warrior and Hogan. Randy Savage did it and I think Bret could have too. |
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Post by jammer311 on Oct 18, 2011 0:39:23 GMT -5
Maybe Yokozuna would have won the KOTR that year then if Bret had remained champion all the way through till SummerSlam.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Oct 18, 2011 0:46:42 GMT -5
Bret/Savage would have been  ing amazing...and matches with Warrior and Hogan would have been great too. Like someone said, Bret could have a good match with anyone... |
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Post by wccwfan4life on Oct 18, 2011 0:51:45 GMT -5
Watch Summerslam 1992 and tell me Warrior wasn't a damn solid wrestler at that point in his career. 87-1991 he was a green, but by 92 he had it! Watch his entire career and not just the WWE slander dvd.
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 18, 2011 3:13:47 GMT -5
Watch Summerslam 1992 and tell me Warrior wasn't a damn solid wrestler at that point in his career. 87-1991 he was a green, but by 92 he had it! Watch his entire career and not just the WWE slander dvd. I have watched Warrior from the Blade Runners until the incident with Orlando Jordan and I stick with what I said. |
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Post by Raine on Oct 18, 2011 7:15:35 GMT -5
Ive heard the rumors on here before but Im curious as to what the "sources" for that line up really is. I just have a hard time believing that McMahon was going to let his 3 biggest stars for the past 10 years just get beat by someone that not many people believed at the time. Isn't that the best way to build up your next big star? By beating the big stars that came before, also known as passing of the torch. What did Vince have to lose by putting Bret over Warrior, Savage & Hulk in a calender year? Savage was only going to be a commentator from 1993 on in Vince's eyes, Hulk was only on a short deal & Warrior had a dodgy track record so could have been gone at anytime (just as we saw) I for one really believed in Bret as a credible champion after his matches against Perfect, Bulldog & HBK as I.C champion, Bret's match quality far surpassed any crap Warrior or Hulk did in 1990 & 1991 as WWF champs. |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Oct 18, 2011 8:36:41 GMT -5
The problem with a Bret Hart vs. Ultimate Warrior match is that the Warrior would have no-sold (or very lightly sold) Bret Hart's offense 75 percent of the time. At the same time, Bret Hart would have bumped like a wildman for Warrior and sold everything 110%.
So the end result would have probably buried Bret Hart as a believable main eventer, and if Bret won the match it would have looked like a fluke.
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Post by koreygunz on Oct 18, 2011 9:23:44 GMT -5
The problem with a Bret Hart vs. Ultimate Warrior match is that the Warrior would have no-sold (or very lightly sold) Bret Hart's offense 75 percent of the time. At the same time, Bret Hart would have bumped like a wildman for Warrior and sold everything 110%. So the end result would have probably buried Bret Hart as a believable main eventer, and if Bret won the match it would have looked like a fluke. I see this point. I believe Flair and Warrior were slated to feud had both stayed, so i could see Bret winning due to flairs outside interference. However, I think he could have believably went over savage and hogan clean, so I don't think it would have hurt him in the long run. Now, had he defeated warrior by fluke and then still dropped the belt to Yokozuna, that would have been a terrible run for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 10:49:08 GMT -5
Yoko was to defeat Hart by neafrious means on Raw for the World Title.
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Hogan was to beat Yoko at KOTR and Hart was to win KOTR
then Summerslam 93.
Supposedly Vinnie had a very strong 93 booked up.Warrior getting sacked effed things up greatly as he was to feature strongly-ditto for Davey Boy Smith.when both were sacked he pursued Sting and got Luger into WWF from the WBF.
obviously he sadly had no joy with Sting with whom he felt fit the New Gen perfectly(he did).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 12:14:08 GMT -5
I think Warrior would have sold for Bret.
I mean...he sold for Savage at Wrestlemania VII in one of the best matches ever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 12:52:34 GMT -5
I think Warrior would have sold for Bret. I mean...he sold for Savage at Wrestlemania VII in one of the best matches ever. very good point. |
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 18, 2011 12:56:38 GMT -5
Watch Summerslam 1992 and tell me Warrior wasn't a damn solid wrestler at that point in his career. 87-1991 he was a green, but by 92 he had it! Watch his entire career and not just the WWE slander dvd. People will just say its due to Savage...I agree with you though. His matches arnt as bad as everyone thinks and I often assume most people who bash Warrior only know of him from the WWE dvd. I dont understand how you can say Hogan is great on one hand, And Warrior sucks. They both wrestled a similar style and truth be told, Warrior was popular enough to be put over Hogan. So its not like everyone hated him... Goldberg was also one of the most popular wrestlers of all time, He wrestled Warrior's short match style and everyone loved it. Sure he had a couple great matches but so has Warrior. Its a two way street, Did Savage make Warriors matches better? Sure he did, It still takes two though. Chris Jericho said on the DVD (in one of its few bright sides) that Warrior was under-rated as a worker. If people agree Jericho doesnt know what hes talking about then be it as it may, But I tend to think the IWC thinks highly of Jericho. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 14:55:09 GMT -5
Warrior was very clumsy and often made mistakes BUT when he had someone good to lead him he was a very good worker at times.
he was just a guy that needed instruction...theres no doubting his popularity or "overness" and its extremely unfair to judge him on the DVD alone-its far from an accurate portrayal of him or how he came to be in WWF.Vince(and others)are blatantly dishonest throughout.
waht he did before Summerslam 91 was crap though.
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Post by He Hate Me on Oct 18, 2011 15:02:12 GMT -5
If this plan had gone through the magic that WWF at the time had probably would have stayed a little longer as Bret would have been a much more household name outside of the wrestling world like Hogan, Warrior, Savage and Flair were.
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Post by jeffro2000 on Oct 18, 2011 15:21:40 GMT -5
Warrior leaving, whatever it was the least desirable of the 3 looking back at history. Savage still could had happened, but I guess Vince wanted a different direction. The most important one was Hogan, and he didn't do it, and that sucks.
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