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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 8, 2011 9:02:33 GMT -5
Why do people care? A drug addicted pedophile wants more drugs. The doc keeps giving them to him. So what?
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Post by T R W on Nov 8, 2011 9:07:02 GMT -5
Why do people care? A drug addicted pedophile wants more drugs. The doc keeps giving them to him. So what? Because it is against the law?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 8, 2011 9:19:03 GMT -5
Why do people care? A drug addicted pedophile wants more drugs. The doc keeps giving them to him. So what? Because it is against the law? Yeah, but in the grand scheme of things there are way, way, way worse things going on. Look at it this way. Let's say this doc gets away scott free. Is there a risk that he's going to kill someone else who's not a drug addicted celebrity? Probably not. Chances are he's not even a risk to celebrity addict in most cases.
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Post by slappy on Nov 8, 2011 9:45:05 GMT -5
Because it is against the law? Yeah, but in the grand scheme of things there are way, way, way worse things going on. Look at it this way. Let's say this doc gets away scott free. Is there a risk that he's going to kill someone else who's not a drug addicted celebrity? Probably not. Chances are he's not even a risk to celebrity addict in most cases. If he got off he probably wouldn't do it again. Do I think he meant for Michael to die? Of course not. But he was the doctor, he was supposed to take care of Michael but he gave him too much and didn't stay with him. He took phone calls all while Michael was dying. If he had been in the room with him (or had a nurse in there with him) Michael could be alive today. It's about negligence not murder which is why they charged him with involuntary manslaughter.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 8, 2011 10:00:28 GMT -5
I just can't get worked up at all when a pedophile dies at the hands of a guy who is most likely not a threat to anyone else in the world. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by T R W on Nov 8, 2011 10:08:39 GMT -5
Because it is against the law? Yeah, but in the grand scheme of things there are way, way, way worse things going on. Look at it this way. Let's say this doc gets away scott free. Is there a risk that he's going to kill someone else who's not a drug addicted celebrity? Probably not. Chances are he's not even a risk to celebrity addict in most cases. I don't disagree all that much. But should we start selectively applying the law? Personally, I think a doctor who is willing to compromise his duty, his oath, and the law and basically be a high end drug dealer to the rich and famous shoudl be prosecuted. Doctors shouldn't just take orders for drugs like they are working the drive through at McDonalds. he committed crimes and should be prosecuted for them. Whether or not he is a danger to others is irrelevant. Any personal feelings aside, he was an alleged pedophile. There is no factual evidence that he was guilty of any of the things he was accused of, nor any convictions. You don't need to care about the case. I don't really care either. And my personal feelings are that he was just a dealer for whatever Michael wanted, and that Michael's own actions are what ultimately lead to his own death. But this guy still deserves to go to jail, for breaking the law.
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Post by slappy on Nov 8, 2011 10:42:15 GMT -5
I just can't get worked up at all when a pedophile dies at the hands of a guy who is most likely not a threat to anyone else in the world. That's all I'm saying. I don't believe he was a pedophile. Even if he was, we shouldn't go around letting people off the hook because they killed or at least had a hand in a bad person's death.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 8, 2011 11:02:51 GMT -5
Yeah, but in the grand scheme of things there are way, way, way worse things going on. Look at it this way. Let's say this doc gets away scott free. Is there a risk that he's going to kill someone else who's not a drug addicted celebrity? Probably not. Chances are he's not even a risk to celebrity addict in most cases. I don't disagree all that much. But should we start selectively applying the law? Personally, I think a doctor who is willing to compromise his duty, his oath, and the law and basically be a high end drug dealer to the rich and famous shoudl be prosecuted. Doctors shouldn't just take orders for drugs like they are working the drive through at McDonalds. he committed crimes and should be prosecuted for them. Whether or not he is a danger to others is irrelevant. Any personal feelings aside, he was an alleged pedophile. There is no factual evidence that he was guilty of any of the things he was accused of, nor any convictions. You don't need to care about the case. I don't really care either. And my personal feelings are that he was just a dealer for whatever Michael wanted, and that Michael's own actions are what ultimately lead to his own death. But this guy still deserves to go to jail, for breaking the law. I don't disagree with that much at all either. I just think we have way, way, way bigger fish to fry. This kind of stuff happens all the time and it's done by doctors who will turn around and kill someone else tomorrow. Nothing is done to those people at all. This guy is getting slapped down just because Michael Jackson was a celebrity. If Jackson was just some poor schmuck and this guy was still a drug dealing doctor, he'd probably get away with it. Also, MJ was a pedophile. Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he wasn't a pedophile.
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Post by T R W on Nov 8, 2011 11:20:47 GMT -5
I don't disagree all that much. But should we start selectively applying the law? Personally, I think a doctor who is willing to compromise his duty, his oath, and the law and basically be a high end drug dealer to the rich and famous shoudl be prosecuted. Doctors shouldn't just take orders for drugs like they are working the drive through at McDonalds. he committed crimes and should be prosecuted for them. Whether or not he is a danger to others is irrelevant. Any personal feelings aside, he was an alleged pedophile. There is no factual evidence that he was guilty of any of the things he was accused of, nor any convictions. You don't need to care about the case. I don't really care either. And my personal feelings are that he was just a dealer for whatever Michael wanted, and that Michael's own actions are what ultimately lead to his own death. But this guy still deserves to go to jail, for breaking the law. I don't disagree with that much at all either. I just think we have way, way, way bigger fish to fry. This kind of stuff happens all the time and it's done by doctors who will turn around and kill someone else tomorrow. Nothing is done to those people at all. This guy is getting slapped down just because Michael Jackson was a celebrity. If Jackson was just some poor schmuck and this guy was still a drug dealing doctor, he'd probably get away with it. Also, MJ was a pedophile. Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he wasn't a pedophile. I agree that he is only being smacked down because he was a celebrity. But I am going to hold you to your own standards and ask for proof when saying that he IS a pedophile. I don't think you can conclusively say he was without it. And nobody was ever able to prove it. But if you want to say, I believe/think he was a pedophile, then I have no problem with that statement.
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Post by chaz on Nov 8, 2011 15:10:35 GMT -5
I don't disagree all that much. But should we start selectively applying the law? Personally, I think a doctor who is willing to compromise his duty, his oath, and the law and basically be a high end drug dealer to the rich and famous shoudl be prosecuted. Doctors shouldn't just take orders for drugs like they are working the drive through at McDonalds. he committed crimes and should be prosecuted for them. Whether or not he is a danger to others is irrelevant. Any personal feelings aside, he was an alleged pedophile. There is no factual evidence that he was guilty of any of the things he was accused of, nor any convictions. You don't need to care about the case. I don't really care either. And my personal feelings are that he was just a dealer for whatever Michael wanted, and that Michael's own actions are what ultimately lead to his own death. But this guy still deserves to go to jail, for breaking the law. I don't disagree with that much at all either. I just think we have way, way, way bigger fish to fry. This kind of stuff happens all the time and it's done by doctors who will turn around and kill someone else tomorrow. Nothing is done to those people at all. This guy is getting slapped down just because Michael Jackson was a celebrity. If Jackson was just some poor schmuck and this guy was still a drug dealing doctor, he'd probably get away with it. Also, MJ was a pedophile. Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he wasn't a pedophile.You're a staunch believer in looking at the evidence. Show me the proof that what you say is true. Just because there is an accusation doesn't mean he is a paedophile. I can accuse you right now of the same thing. Would that be the truth? Same logic, same amount of evidence. There was never any evidence against Jackson. I firmly believe that the first time round it was a risky, yet successful campaign to bleed money from Jackson by the kid's dad (something that he and the child have alluded to be true). The second time, I think they tried to do the same and it failed, going too far and ending up in court. He turned to drugs and ultimately created his own death. Come on, what sane parent would accept money from a paedophile who abused their child? You would make sure the bastard was rotting in a cell for a VERY long time. That didn't happen with Michael Jackson because he was not a paedophile.
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Post by bencw on Nov 8, 2011 15:15:57 GMT -5
Dr Hulk hypocrite much?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 8, 2011 16:05:29 GMT -5
I know this lady. She can often be found on street corners. She gets in cars with men and drives off to a hotel. Then they drop her off on the street corner an hour or so later. Can we say definitively that this woman is a hooker?
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Post by Unleashed in the East on Nov 9, 2011 12:29:30 GMT -5
ed up! That's all!
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Post by Oskanowski on Nov 9, 2011 13:04:08 GMT -5
I know this lady. She can often be found on street corners. She gets in cars with men and drives off to a hotel. Then they drop her off on the street corner an hour or so later. Can we say definitively that this woman is a hooker? Well.. You should know.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 9, 2011 13:09:26 GMT -5
I know this lady. She can often be found on street corners. She gets in cars with men and drives off to a hotel. Then they drop her off on the street corner an hour or so later. Can we say definitively that this woman is a hooker? Well.. You should know.So should you since it's your mom.
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Post by Oskanowski on Nov 9, 2011 15:21:49 GMT -5
So should you since it's your mom. Well then, we can definitively say that she's a hooker.
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Post by Too Sweet on Nov 10, 2011 7:22:47 GMT -5
I'd call this a Bittersweet moment, sure Conrad is guilty, will take the heat and is ultimately responsible for his death but then again, It's Michael's addiction that would have led to him doing this ( along with the Money I suppose ).
Now sure Conrad could have turned around and said "no" to Michael, but would that have stopped Michael from finding another Doctor? The Addiction stems from a fairly long time ago ( After the Pepsi Incidident in 84' I think? ) so it's a safe assumption to say that he'd be pretty eager to get another dose. Although Conrad did screw up badly with the situation and Michael could have been still alive today, I just wonder If Michael would have kicked his addiction after an event like that.
As much as I am huge fan of Jackson, I wished Michael had gotten rid of his Demons, but I'd understand the road he took, the man was teased and ridiculed for the past 25 years before his death. Tabloids killed MJ? Maybe. ( *eerie music plays* )
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