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Post by Brad on Oct 10, 2012 22:29:39 GMT -5
Punk Vs. Hardy SS 09
This is a really good match but something seems to be missing. I don't think the crowd is as into it as I think they should have been. I mean, the guys are getting reactions no doubt but something seems off to me. Anyone else agree?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 4:09:54 GMT -5
Punk Vs. Hardy SS 09 This is a really good match but something seems to be missing. I don't think the crowd is as into it as I think they should have been. I mean, the guys are getting reactions no doubt but something seems off to me. Anyone else agree? yes actually.....I thought that when I first watched this match.I must give it a look again actually. some WM6 matches were my last.... Ted Dibiase vs Jake Roberts Macho & Sherri vs Dusty & Saphire man was the crowd fired up for this event.well done Toronto.
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Post by Duke Silver on Oct 12, 2012 18:23:34 GMT -5
Vengeance '02: Angle vs. Rock vs. Undertaker
I know the triple threat match from WM20 gets a lot of praise for being the best triple threat match, but I always thought Angle/Rock/Taker was better for some reason. Great back and forth action, the using of each other's finishers, and a good crowd.
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Post by 0,Y on Oct 13, 2012 2:49:17 GMT -5
^ I agree I always liked Rock/Angle/Taker better for some reason. Nevertheless both were absolutely incredible matches
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 11:58:09 GMT -5
Watched Bret Hart vs. The Patriot from Ground Zero.
Pretty good match! Bret takes a hell of a bump when Patriot destroys him with the Uncle Slam. I also like the Sharpshooter reversal finish.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 14:07:51 GMT -5
Watched Bret Hart vs. The Patriot from Ground Zero. Pretty good match! Bret takes a hell of a bump when Patriot destroys him with the Uncle Slam. I also like the Sharpshooter reversal finish. yes it was a good match.it baffles me what the Harts problem was with Wilkes(Bret aside of course)Owen or Davey wouldnt work with him......despite EVERYONE saying he was a great guy. it baffled Cornette how Wilkes was treated by Vince.from his debut in Nova Scotia(awful booking) until his injury.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 3:11:16 GMT -5
Yeah it's weird. What happened to him anyway? He was gone by Survivor Series 1997. Did he get hurt?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 11:34:31 GMT -5
he tore his triceps VERY badly man.then he broke his collarbone too-he was released in Feb 98.
he was scheduled to Captian Team USA(Patriot,Mero,Vader & Goldust) at Survivors 97.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 11:47:12 GMT -5
he tore his triceps VERY badly man.then he broke his collarbone too-he was released in Feb 98. he was scheduled to Captian Team USA(Patriot,Mero,Vader & Goldust) at Survivors 97. Makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 11:53:43 GMT -5
Wilkes is a car saleman now and has spoken out about how Steroids basically made his muscles like paper.he retired in 98 I belive due to his injuries.
he was a performer I enjoyed......and I would LOVE a Mattel figure of him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 12:03:16 GMT -5
I've been watching a lot of older njpw stuff and early cactus jack stuff!. Watched the Texas death match from Halloween havoc 93 between cactus and vader! Hard hitting match! Really love how stiff these two were! Gonna finish up BOLA Night 2 then watch pme Black Tiger mask 2 vs Peagusus kid! Have you seen KOTD from IWA Japan?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 12:03:50 GMT -5
Wilkes is a car saleman now and has spoken out about how Steroids basically made his muscles like paper.he retired in 98 I belive due to his injuries. he was a performer I enjoyed......and I would LOVE a Mattel figure of him. I do remember reading about him speaking on steroids. I would like a figure of him too for my 1997 collection.
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Post by Infinite on Oct 14, 2012 16:18:27 GMT -5
Mankind vs Shawn Michaels IYH: Mind Games.
Loved the wildness of it, it showed a new, more desperate, violent side to 1996 Michaels, while scenes of Foley attacking his thigh with a rod to bring it back to life cemented him as a bona fide mentalist. Michaels attacking the hand immediately after taking a mandible claw was some good psychology, but I feel Mankind could have sold it more given the ass kicking Shawn gave it. Unfortunately (and I say this as someone watching this match for the first time in 2012) I get the impression that some of the spots that would have been considered 'harcore' in New Generation WWF don't really hold up that well today what with the rise and fall of 'trash wrestling' and all that (Table spot not included, that crap was awesome).
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 14, 2012 18:11:42 GMT -5
Punk Vs. Hardy SS 09 This is a really good match but something seems to be missing. I don't think the crowd is as into it as I think they should have been. I mean, the guys are getting reactions no doubt but something seems off to me. Anyone else agree? yes actually.....I thought that when I first watched this match.I must give it a look again actually. some WM6 matches were my last.... Ted Dibiase vs Jake Roberts Macho & Sherri vs Dusty & Saphire man was the crowd fired up for this event.well done Toronto. it always amazes me how completely,and totally, the crowd was into EVERY match that night!
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 14, 2012 18:15:57 GMT -5
Mankind vs Shawn Michaels IYH: Mind Games. Loved the wildness of it, it showed a new, more desperate, violent side to 1996 Michaels, while scenes of Foley attacking his thigh with a rod to bring it back to life cemented him as a bona fide mentalist. Michaels attacking the hand immediately after taking a mandible claw was some good psychology, but I feel Mankind could have sold it more given the ass kicking Shawn gave it. Unfortunately (and I say this as someone watching this match for the first time in 2012) I get the impression that some of the spots that would have been considered 'harcore' in New Generation WWF don't really hold up that well today what with the rise and fall of 'trash wrestling' and all that (Table spot not included, that crap was awesome). ***3/4 Michaels openly talked about it being one of the best matches he ever had. how,after months of lousy ratings and PPV buyrates ( and the feelings being heaped upon him because of this,since he was the #1 guy) that this match gave him welcome relief in being able to be more aggressive and get some of his frustrations out...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 2:05:24 GMT -5
Mankind vs Shawn Michaels IYH: Mind Games. Loved the wildness of it, it showed a new, more desperate, violent side to 1996 Michaels, while scenes of Foley attacking his thigh with a rod to bring it back to life cemented him as a bona fide mentalist. Michaels attacking the hand immediately after taking a mandible claw was some good psychology, but I feel Mankind could have sold it more given the ass kicking Shawn gave it. Unfortunately (and I say this as someone watching this match for the first time in 2012) I get the impression that some of the spots that would have been considered 'harcore' in New Generation WWF don't really hold up that well today what with the rise and fall of 'trash wrestling' and all that (Table spot not included, that crap was awesome). ***3/4 What a great match that was and still is today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 13:19:39 GMT -5
seen the HBK vs Mankind chat and have this on as we speak.
GREAT match.....as mentioned theres some great technique on display here.
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Post by Infinite on Oct 15, 2012 15:08:06 GMT -5
Review 2 (Yeah I think I'm doing reviews now)
Chris Jericho vs Triple H- WWF Title, April 17 2000
Yeah, that one.
So this match went around the 10 minute mark, and for a 10 minute TV match I thought it was pretty good (although that may be just for the incredible reaction to the finish). It was basically everything you expect and want from an attitude era main event condensed into 10 minutes, with some interesting angles around the match, a hot crowd (well, most of the time), and of course, a ref bump. For me though, a great match is all about setting itself apart from the status quo, by playing up to the backstory as well as the two characters strengths and weaknesses, and I would say this one used some decent psychology with regards to Triple H's anger, along with Stephanie's involvement (in this case detracting from ol' Tripper's cause). However these nuances were not played up to as much as I would perhaps want, meaning there's a certain boundary in terms of star rating that matches such as this can't ever cross.
**1/2 (The monster pop pushes it up from **1/4)
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 15, 2012 17:56:30 GMT -5
i was there that night live, State College,PA.
the reaction on TV does NO justice to how crazy a pop the crowd was giving when Jericho "won" the Title!
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Post by LeighD on Oct 16, 2012 9:18:12 GMT -5
Watched Bret Hart vs. The Patriot from Ground Zero. Pretty good match! Bret takes a hell of a bump when Patriot destroys him with the Uncle Slam. I also like the Sharpshooter reversal finish. yes it was a good match.it baffles me what the Harts problem was with Wilkes(Bret aside of course)Owen or Davey wouldnt work with him......despite EVERYONE saying he was a great guy. it baffled Cornette how Wilkes was treated by Vince.from his debut in Nova Scotia(awful booking) until his injury. Can you elaborate a little more? I had always felt a Bret vs. Patriot min-feud in the late-summer lasting through early winter was perfect. Bret was on his anti-American angle and the Patriot was the leader for the USA. Perfect match-up. I guess injuries plagued a possble great feud. I do wish we had gotten a CS Patroit figure. From either WCW or WWF run.
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