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Post by AndrewR85 on Jul 9, 2024 4:11:08 GMT -5
Bret Hart vs Steve Austin - Survivor Series 1996
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nibs92
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Post by nibs92 on Jul 9, 2024 12:15:06 GMT -5
Survivor series 89. Great event!!
I’m still baffled by the booking in Hogan match. I’ll never understand why Dibiase was left two on one with Jake and Hogan. I’ll live with the 3 dq’s but doesn’t make sense having the heel at a numerical disadvantage in a Hogan match.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 9, 2024 12:34:59 GMT -5
Survivor series 89. Great event!! I’m still baffled by the booking in Hogan match. I’ll never understand why Dibiase was left two on one with Jake and Hogan. I’ll live with the 3 dq’s but doesn’t make sense having the heel at a numerical disadvantage in a Hogan match. It makes sense when you think bout it as Hogan was in bad shape at the hands of Zeus then the POP double team so in a kayfabe sense if he got past Jake he knew he had Hogan right where he wants em I like Jesse's line when Jake tries to rally Hogan after just being eliminated'' Your nights done Jake take a walk!''
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 9, 2024 17:45:28 GMT -5
Yoko vs Lex @ WMX again? Not a whole lot wrong here. 100% think Lex should have beaten Yoko, lost to Bret and then went heel.
Bret vs Yoko @ WMX. Yokos whopper weight gain in 12 months really showed here...he wasnt half the worker he was at WM9 or SSlam 93
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 9, 2024 21:37:15 GMT -5
Never gets old
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Post by K5 on Jul 10, 2024 12:44:13 GMT -5
fun match. harley slamming andre on the outside of the ring was wild to see
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Old Zeke
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'Fraid old Zeke, he rides up here with me. Can't trust a pig with watermelons, you know.
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Post by Old Zeke on Jul 10, 2024 13:35:47 GMT -5
Mankind vs Taker - KOTR '98
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 10, 2024 19:33:17 GMT -5
Raw 2002 where HHH turns on HBK and the HBK vs HHH at Summerslam 2002.
great stuff.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 10, 2024 19:34:54 GMT -5
Raw 2002 where HHH turns on HBK and the HBK vs HHH at Summerslam 2002. great stuff.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 11, 2024 20:12:59 GMT -5
Luger/Windham vs Arn & Tully for the straps. Great match with a hot crowd and that's a great pop when Lex & Barry win.
Arn & Tully vs Luger & Windham when Barry goes heel. again? GREAT stuff.
Also was Barry the 1st guy to hold the taggers in Vince's WWF and NWA?
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Post by The Brain on Jul 11, 2024 20:32:50 GMT -5
Luger/Windham vs Arn & Tully for the straps. Great match with a hot crowd and that's a great pop when Lex & Barry win. Arn & Tully vs Luger & Windham when Barry goes heel. again? GREAT stuff.
Also was Barry the 1st guy to hold the taggers in Vince's WWF and NWA? One of my fav heel turns of all time. Executed to perfection that whole deal And yeah I believe so
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 11, 2024 20:49:13 GMT -5
Luger/Windham vs Arn & Tully for the straps. Great match with a hot crowd and that's a great pop when Lex & Barry win. Arn & Tully vs Luger & Windham when Barry goes heel. again? GREAT stuff.
Also was Barry the 1st guy to hold the taggers in Vince's WWF and NWA? One of my fav heel turns of all time. Executed to perfection that whole deal And yeah I believe so Yeah it was excellent booking. Dillon turning the screws in Barry on the run in & during the match was just superb.
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Post by K5 on Jul 12, 2024 22:54:25 GMT -5
Raw 2002 where HHH turns on HBK and the HBK vs HHH at Summerslam 2002. great stuff. loved that feud.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 13, 2024 10:15:20 GMT -5
Chyna vs Bulldog on Raw from Oct 99. Wow.
Now I'm no Bulldog superfan & find him savagely overrated but f#ckin hell poor Davey. Manhandled & needed to be bailed out by Jarrett.
At least she couldn't go back to Vince & rat him out for being too rough(like she did with everyone else) because he got no offence aside from a super delicate powerslam 🤯🤣🤣🤣
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Post by K5 on Jul 13, 2024 10:19:19 GMT -5
Chyna vs Bulldog on Raw from Oct 99. Wow. Now I'm no Bulldog superfan & find him savagely overrated but f#ckin hell poor Davey. Manhandled & needed to be bailed out by Jarrett. At least she couldn't go back to Vince & rat him out for being too rough(like she did with everyone else) because he got no offence aside from a super delicate powerslam 🤯🤣🤣🤣 Davey Boy was such a mess of drugs at this point. I’d say he actually peaked in like 1989, when dynamite’s back and knee injuries had really taken their toll.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 13, 2024 10:25:24 GMT -5
Chyna vs Bulldog on Raw from Oct 99. Wow. Now I'm no Bulldog superfan & find him savagely overrated but f#ckin hell poor Davey. Manhandled & needed to be bailed out by Jarrett. At least she couldn't go back to Vince & rat him out for being too rough(like she did with everyone else) because he got no offence aside from a super delicate powerslam 🤯🤣🤣🤣 Davey Boy was such a mess of drugs at this point. I’d say he actually peaked in like 1989, when dynamite’s back and knee injuries had really taken their toll. Oh definitely...no argument here. He was crazy out of shape too. BUT he still had some contribution to make here...being fed to Joanie put paid to that
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Post by K5 on Jul 13, 2024 12:52:12 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Jericho and Taz vs Chris Benoit from Raw 2000.04.17
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Post by The Brain on Jul 14, 2024 11:12:29 GMT -5
PTW episode where Perfect turns baby
They did a good job on short notice all things considered. But I mentioned this in the past here a good alternative wouldve been to have Crush as Mach's partner. He wasnt even on the PPV so having em in this spot wouldve been good for his face run here as he was over like rover
Have em go over at SSeries due to Perfect messing up and go from there with the split heading in 93. Plus they couldve called back to this a year later when the Mach/Crush feud got underway
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Post by sinfony on Jul 14, 2024 18:45:43 GMT -5
PTW episode where Perfect turns baby They did a good job on short notice all things considered. But I mentioned this in the past here a good alternative wouldve been to have Crush as Mach's partner. He wasnt even on the PPV so having em in this spot wouldve been good for his face run here as he was over like rover Have em go over at SSeries due to Perfect messing up and go from there with the split heading in 93. Plus they couldve called back to this a year later when the Mach/Crush feud got underway I think they could have used Bret as Savage's partner and used it to build a Flair vs Bret singles match as the main event at the Rumble where Bret should have won the title after Perfect's interference backfires, instead of rushing it on to him clean at a house show. After losing the IC title at Summerslam, Bret wasn't really locked into any particular direction until the short-term title decision in October. I think it would have been fully believable for the babyface Savage to call on the help of the other top babyface in Bret.
I know Flair got injured by Warrior, but really didn't need to rush the title off him the way they did. Even injured, Flair could still have just been a fixture on TV and have built for the Survivor Series in that way, especially as he wouldn't need to put the title on the line at the Survivor Series anyway, and then see what physical condition he is.
If you do it this way, you can have Perfect's interference costing Flair the title at the Rumble leading to the Flair vs Perfect match being at WM9 instead of rushed on Raw and you can keep to heat on Razor vs Savage as a potential future singles match at WM9 after they collide again in the battle royal at RR 1993. It also means that they wouldn't rush Razor into a title match at the Rumble, with the loss effectively demoting him to Nowheresville and the pointless Backlund squash at WM9, and you get a real potential clash title bout at RR93 with Bret vs Flair going 30 minutes or so (they had a 60 min match on the house show circuit in January 1993) and reduce the battle royal to maximum 25 candidates as a result of the limited time, so you don't need to expose how weak the roster is becoming.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 14, 2024 19:35:47 GMT -5
PTW episode where Perfect turns baby They did a good job on short notice all things considered. But I mentioned this in the past here a good alternative wouldve been to have Crush as Mach's partner. He wasnt even on the PPV so having em in this spot wouldve been good for his face run here as he was over like rover Have em go over at SSeries due to Perfect messing up and go from there with the split heading in 93. Plus they couldve called back to this a year later when the Mach/Crush feud got underway I think they could have used Bret as Savage's partner and used it to build a Flair vs Bret singles match as the main event at the Rumble where Bret should have won the title after Perfect's interference backfires, instead of rushing it on to him clean at a house show. After losing the IC title at Summerslam, Bret wasn't really locked into any particular direction until the short-term title decision in October. I think it would have been fully believable for the babyface Savage to call on the help of the other top babyface in Bret.
I know Flair got injured by Warrior, but really didn't need to rush the title off him the way they did. Even injured, Flair could still have just been a fixture on TV and have built for the Survivor Series in that way, especially as he wouldn't need to put the title on the line at the Survivor Series anyway, and then see what physical condition he is.
If you do it this way, you can have Perfect's interference costing Flair the title at the Rumble leading to the Flair vs Perfect match being at WM9 instead of rushed on Raw and you can keep to heat on Razor vs Savage as a potential future singles match at WM9 after they collide again in the battle royal at RR 1993. It also means that they wouldn't rush Razor into a title match at the Rumble, with the loss effectively demoting him to Nowheresville and the pointless Backlund squash at WM9, and you get a real potential clash title bout at RR93 with Bret vs Flair going 30 minutes or so (they had a 60 min match on the house show circuit in January 1993) and reduce the battle royal to maximum 25 candidates as a result of the limited time, so you don't need to expose how weak the roster is becoming.
I do like the idea of Bret/Naitch at the Rumble. They never did capitalize on that feud after Naitch called em out during an interview with Mean Gene after SSeries. The focus went on his feud with Perfect with Razor getting that spot to face Bret at the Rumble. WCW did an 30 min iron man match the previous June so why couldnt WWF do it? Like you said it can all lead to the big showdown Naitch vs Perfect in loser leaves town in Vegas(like how it shouldve been.Shame they couldnt extend his deal here) But as far as Bret and SSeries goes, putting em in there with Shawn made sense and a nice 1st PPV for em as World Champ. Their best PPV match together IMO
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