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Post by Edge618 on Dec 15, 2011 4:41:46 GMT -5
A second match in a row would suck because last year's barely worked. They were both rushed returns and it was a rushed match, that IMO, for what it was at the time, delivered. And i HATE HHH. But for what was going on then it worked. But now, it makes absolutely no sense. HHH isn't ending the steak, and if for some reason he did, it would be the stupidest thing in WWE HISTORY. I don't want to be "that guy" who says he would quit watching WWE, but I would definitely take a break. I would much rather see Kane vs. Taker. Kane is the only veteran who should ever even slightly be considered for breaking the streak just because of their history and how great it would be for Taker to go out like that. It would top both their careers, Taker gets a loss, Kane is redeemed for the way they've used him, and always being in Taker's shadow, and all is right in the world. Taker should face Barrett. With Barrett's steam there would be "speculation" that he could end it. He most likely wouldn't, but even with a loss he would gain something. WM25 was a great match at the right time, but after that, 26, 27, and a potential 28 would be horrible. Their basically doing the HBK/Taker storyline with HHH/Taker, except its a whole lot worse because HHH will never be half of what HBK ever was..
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 15, 2011 10:33:35 GMT -5
The actual match last year was good....but the storyline was AWFUL. WWE did a terrible job with both the returns of Undertaker and Triple H, and they just never explained why the match was even taking place or why Triple H didn't go after Sheamus and why Undertaker didn't go after Kane and Wade Barrett.
I do not want to see Triple H and Undertaker wrestle again at Wrestlemania 28.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Dec 15, 2011 10:36:16 GMT -5
Like I have said a million times, no one makes sense to face Taker except for HHH or Kane...The Undertaker has defeated HBK twice and HHH (barely) last year, do you really think someone like Wade Barrett would be a realistic opponent for Taker at this point? HHH showed Taker's vulnerability and weakness last year and it only makes sense that Taker come back to prove otherwise. It's brilliant...Taker is the one who needs to win, rather than HHH, ing brilliant ...and with HBK as referee...GENIUS! HBK having the honor to count Taker's shoulders down and ending the streak or being forced to count down his best friend HHH's shoulders to end his carreer...again, GENIUS!
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 15, 2011 10:40:10 GMT -5
Like I have said a million times, no one makes sense to face Taker except for HHH or Kane...The Undertaker has defeated HBK twice and HHH (barely) last year, do you really think someone like Wade Barrett would be a realistic opponent for Taker at this point? HHH showed Taker's vulnerability and weakness last year and it only makes sense that Taker come back to prove otherwise. It's brilliant...Taker is the one who needs to win, rather than HHH, ing brilliant ...and with HBK as referee...GENIUS! HBK having the honor to count Taker's shoulders down and ending the streak or being forced to count down his best friend HHH's shoulders to end his carreer...again, GENIUS! I don't know a great deal, but what I do know is that you and I have entirely different definitions of the word brilliant...
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 15, 2011 10:47:30 GMT -5
All they have to do is have Del Rio come out and start talking crap. Saying he's won the Royal Rumble, he's won the Money in the Bank, he's been WWE Champion multiple times.....he's accomplished everything in the WWE because it was his destiny. And now, it is his destiny to break the greatest streak in sports entertainment.....he's going to break the Undertaker's streak.
For Wade Barrett. he could come out and say that the Barrett barrage is going to finish what Nexus started over a year ago and that ending the streak of the Undertaker would undoubtedly launch him into instant and permanent championship contention for the rest of his career and make him a ton of money.
It would be better than Triple H and Undertaker for a 3rd time.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Dec 15, 2011 10:50:10 GMT -5
All they have to do is have Del Rio come out and start talking crap. Saying he's won the Royal Rumble, he's won the Money in the Bank, he's been WWE Champion multiple times.....he's accomplished everything in the WWE because it was his destiny. And now, it is his destiny to break the greatest streak in sports entertainment.....he's going to break the Undertaker's streak. For Wade Barrett. he could come out and say that the Barrett barrage is going to finish what Nexus started over a year ago and that ending the streak of the Undertaker would undoubtedly launch him into instant and permanent championship contention for the rest of his career and make him a ton of money. It would be better than Triple H and Undertaker for a 3rd time. Like I said, would Del Rio or Barrett have a realistic chance at all at beating the Undertaker or even being a viable opponent after Taker has beat HBK twice and HHH? No...
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 15, 2011 10:58:09 GMT -5
All they have to do is have Del Rio come out and start talking crap. Saying he's won the Royal Rumble, he's won the Money in the Bank, he's been WWE Champion multiple times.....he's accomplished everything in the WWE because it was his destiny. And now, it is his destiny to break the greatest streak in sports entertainment.....he's going to break the Undertaker's streak. For Wade Barrett. he could come out and say that the Barrett barrage is going to finish what Nexus started over a year ago and that ending the streak of the Undertaker would undoubtedly launch him into instant and permanent championship contention for the rest of his career and make him a ton of money. It would be better than Triple H and Undertaker for a 3rd time. Like I said, would Del Rio or Barrett have a realistic chance at all at beating the Undertaker or even being a viable opponent after Taker has beat HBK twice and HHH? No... Nobody has a realistic chance at beating Undertaker at Wrestlemania because WWE would never book that. He's 19-0, we know it's getting to at least 20-0, at this point we might as well at least get a fresh match with a new opponent.
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Post by rude1awakening on Dec 15, 2011 11:24:43 GMT -5
How many times does Undertaker need to face Triple H? I rather the returning Kane vs Undertaker at Wrestlemania over Triple H vs Taker again! Please god no, their matches last year where terrible. Austin-Rock should stay as the only 3 time rivalry at Mania. I would rather Taker be gone for 5 years and then come back to get his 20th instead of just throwing him in a match with someone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 12:28:39 GMT -5
Give it to Someone New like Del Rio, Sheamus, Miz, Ziggler, Barrett or Rhodes or Maybe Randy Orton, Kane or Mark Henry Again
Not HHH
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 15, 2011 12:28:56 GMT -5
Seriously I hope its not Taker/HHH again! I wouldnt mind something like Taker/HHH last year where Taker and Jericho both return on the same night and have a match at Mania. Would be a fantastic match and some new and fresh unlike Taker/HHH again.
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Post by wabarrett on Dec 15, 2011 15:55:00 GMT -5
Bitch, bitch, bitch.
I don't get this 'I want a young up-and-comer like Cody Rhodes to end the streak, not a rematch!!' idea. I'd be very surprised if Undertaker goes beyond 20-0, and he needs to go out in a big way.
In my opinion, Undertaker should have one last brutal encounter with Kane, which would lead to both of their send-offs. Loads of people will respond 'wah I don't want that, we've seen it already, I want [insert latest mid-carder getting a big push] to face him and hopefully win, it'll do so much for his career!', but frankly, you need to look beyond that. Undertaker's [potential] final match should not be against some up-and-comer, and he definitely shouldn't be losing on his way out. What a way to destroy two decades worth of history and legend.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 16:02:28 GMT -5
Bitch, bitch, bitch. I don't get this 'I want a young up-and-comer like Cody Rhodes to end the streak, not a rematch!!' idea. I'd be very surprised if Undertaker goes beyond 20-0, and he needs to go out in a big way. In my opinion, Undertaker should have one last brutal encounter with Kane, which would lead to both of their send-offs. Loads of people will respond 'wah I don't want that, we've seen it already, I want [insert latest mid-carder getting a big push] to face him and hopefully win, it'll do so much for his career!', but frankly, you need to look beyond that. Undertaker's [potential] final match should not be against some up-and-comer, and he definitely shouldn't be losing on his way out. What a way to destroy two decades worth of history and legend. Ok...so...what does Undertaker have left to prove by beating Triple H at Wrestlemania for a third time? Or Kane for a third time? Or even Shawn Michaels for a third time? How does that benefit...anybody?
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Post by wabarrett on Dec 15, 2011 16:06:42 GMT -5
Bitch, bitch, bitch. I don't get this 'I want a young up-and-comer like Cody Rhodes to end the streak, not a rematch!!' idea. I'd be very surprised if Undertaker goes beyond 20-0, and he needs to go out in a big way. In my opinion, Undertaker should have one last brutal encounter with Kane, which would lead to both of their send-offs. Loads of people will respond 'wah I don't want that, we've seen it already, I want [insert latest mid-carder getting a big push] to face him and hopefully win, it'll do so much for his career!', but frankly, you need to look beyond that. Undertaker's [potential] final match should not be against some up-and-comer, and he definitely shouldn't be losing on his way out. What a way to destroy two decades worth of history and legend. Ok...so...what does Undertaker have left to prove by beating Triple H at Wrestlemania for a third time? Or Kane for a third time? Or even Shawn Michaels for a third time? How does that benefit...anybody? I'm fed up of looking at everything in terms of who it will benefit, who will 'get a rub' and all that s*** that we should hardly be concerned about. In terms of storylines, Triple H has been the biggest threat so far to Undertaker's streak, caused him to leave on a stretcher and we haven't seen him since... that's why they should fight again. The history between Kane and Undertaker goes back such a long way, and the whole thing could come to a close if they fought one last match against each other and then both left. Shawn Michaels? No, Michaels had 2 shots, lost twice, got a perfect send-off, and is done. All that matters to me more than 'OMG Dolph Ziggler would be so over if he pinned The Undertaker!!!1' Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 16:09:46 GMT -5
I'm not saying it has to benefit Rhodes or Ziggler...
I'm saying that by defeating Triple H for a third time it doesn't even benefit Undertaker. It does nothing. You're against Shawn Michaels getting a third shot but both Kane and Triple H have lost to the Undertaker twice at Wrestlemania as well so I just don't understand.
Not trying to start something...I just don't agree that's all.
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Post by wabarrett on Dec 15, 2011 16:17:30 GMT -5
I'm not saying it has to benefit Rhodes or Ziggler... I'm saying that by defeating Triple H for a third time it doesn't even benefit Undertaker. It does nothing. You're against Shawn Michaels getting a third shot but both Kane and Triple H have lost to the Undertaker twice at Wrestlemania as well so I just don't understand. Not trying to start something...I just don't agree that's all. Because Michaels is finished. I'm not for Michaels coming out of retirement for that match because I have a lot of respect for him honoring his send-off. Again, I don't care about who it benefits. I don't look at everything from this business perspective, I look at it from my perspective as a fan, and I think getting some closure for the storyline going on with Triple H or (more so) Kane is more important than getting some kid over. The last 3 matches Undertaker has had at Mania have gotten the fans emotionally invested whether you find them boring or not. I'm sure WWE could get fans interested in a final Kane vs. Undertaker encounter, more easily than Undertaker vs. some guy trying to break out of the mid-card.
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Post by nexusagainstus on Dec 15, 2011 16:18:31 GMT -5
Undertaker facing Triple H again is perfect. Triple H put Undertaker down, to the point where he wasn't able to leave on his own two feet. Triple H may have tapped, but he also had nothing to lose. Now, Triple H is calling out Undertaker to see if he's even able to still wrestle. In a since, Undertaker has to prove that he can still go after being made to look the way he did this passed Mania. It's pretty damn brilliant.
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Post by wabarrett on Dec 15, 2011 16:20:36 GMT -5
Undertaker facing Triple H again is perfect. Triple H put Undertaker down, to the point where he wasn't able to leave on his own two feet. Triple H may have tapped, but he also had nothing to lose. Now, Triple H is calling out Undertaker to see if he's even able to still wrestle. In a since, Undertaker has to prove that he can still go after being made to look the way he did this passed Mania. It's pretty damn brilliant. Well said.
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Post by jfinnomore on Dec 15, 2011 16:26:49 GMT -5
Anyone that wants to see Triple H go over some young talent rather than put on a great match with Taker is high.
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Post by wabarrett on Dec 15, 2011 16:30:27 GMT -5
Anyone that wants to see Triple H go over some young talent rather than put on a great match with Taker is high. ... I don't believe anyone has said they want that to happen, in this whole thread.
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Post by Phantom on Dec 15, 2011 16:36:13 GMT -5
I dont mind. At this point the only people who should face Taker are HHH, Cena, Jericho, and maybe Kane. Last year's match was good. Taker was injured so he couldn't really wrestle, so they cut straight to the spots. If they do HHH vs. Taker again, HBK should be the Special Ref. It would add an interesting dynamic.
I do get this feeling, with Kane Resurrected and all, that Kane is going to be after the streak as well. Guess we will have to wait and see.
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