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Post by The Madness on Jan 9, 2012 9:42:43 GMT -5
Buying up a rare figure and offering them up for 1/1 trades is pretty admirable, IMO.
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Post by hierosis on Jan 9, 2012 10:20:27 GMT -5
It seems like a lot of ppl are finding her. I guess if any1 really wants Vickie she's doesn't seem that hard to find. It's certainly been tough for me.
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Post by Kalob Black on Jan 9, 2012 10:22:14 GMT -5
People are upset because their burning the god damn gas specifically to find one in the stores for that old school feel of figure hunting and aren't turning up with anything in their areas. And it's because people are hoarding all the figures in bulk from the cubes/cases. That's why people are upset. It's pretty clear. Wouldn't it piss you guys off if you're looking for a certain figure and you go to your local stores and they have 0 of that guy/woman in stock, but have the rest of the people in the set, in a wide margin of multiples. Then you get on WF, and see that someone made it to a store locally before you did and bought 3-6 of the figure you were looking for to trade with others across the world. It calls the question into mind, are you burning tons of gas and finding nothing because people like that are scavenging the shelves near you for their own benefit, or did MATTEL just not pack them and ship them proportionally well enough for you to have a chance at finding it in the store. That's why people are pissed.
I'm not.. Because she's not a necessity for me. But both sides of this case is understandable. But in another light, it's still frustrating to others.
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Post by The Madness on Jan 9, 2012 10:33:44 GMT -5
@razorblade Brigade,
I totally understand your point. I personally enjoy the old-school figure hunting aspect of collecting, but times are changing. I can't justify spending enough gas money to buy a figure that it ends up being more expensive than if I would have simply bought it online or traded for it.
I think a lot of the problem lies with Mattel's distribution, too. They should have known that Vickie would have been a hot seller, and such extreme shortpacking leads to cases like this - the figures everyone wants are nowhere to be found, and the set ends up consisting of pegwarmers that stick around for ages.
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Post by skribbel24 on Jan 9, 2012 10:36:31 GMT -5
Nice finds dude, black belt indeed.
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Post by BIGMAC2570 on Jan 9, 2012 11:14:15 GMT -5
Joe
very nice finds, and cudos for offering them up for other figs you need..
I for 1, bought 3 of them. 1 I offered up here in a trade,1 for the boy and 1 for my collection..I could myself buying more if I ran across them, and using them to get the RR Michaels and Hart figures..hell I might just hold out to swap 1 for a layla.
I see nothing wrong with what your doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2012 11:56:48 GMT -5
" lets go joejitsu22....joejitsu22 sucks!!!" feeling like cena right about now lol to add fuel to the fire i have this story that just went down..... LOL... "Rise Above Collecting" and "JJ22 Sucks" shirts availible at the concession stand now... Seriously, I would have bought them all as well just for the purpose of ensuring others I network with were able to get them and I am no scalper. I've seen people talk about buying up all the E11 Punks and selling them for $30 and higher yet that goes without scrutiny. This place confuses me sometimes. +1 fpr JJ22 because he's cool.
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Post by m0nst3r42 on Jan 9, 2012 12:06:13 GMT -5
i see no problem with him picking up that many vickies to trade for older figs he missed out on... i'm sure the person before or after him would've bought just as many and dumped them on ebay to make a profit on all of them... congrats on the find!
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jan 9, 2012 13:55:16 GMT -5
i see no problem with him picking up that many vickies to trade for older figs he missed out on... i'm sure the person before or after him would've bought just as many and dumped them on ebay to make a profit on all of them... congrats on the find! Or a parent could have bought their kid the figure, the kid brutalizes it during play, and 6 months later it's confined to a toy box. A couple of years later, mommy throws it out during spring cleaning. It happens. That's why I don't agree with the "you have to save figs for other collectors" stance. You have no idea what's going to happen to a fig when you chose to pass it up. People who use their funds to buy trade bait or flip material are smart and dedicated in my opinion. If that makes me a WFigs heel, so be it.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Jan 9, 2012 14:00:02 GMT -5
how is trading ONE FOR ONE turning a profit. wheres the profit? you make no sense. Simple. Instead of leaving the other 4 for others to find, you've removed that option for your own personal gain. You picked them all up, so you could get something out it. It's not scalping, obviously. However, it's quite a selfish thing to do... just to get something you want. And the guy/girl that had the numerous Elite 11 Punks were crapped on big time. One of the more argumentive threads about multiple buying. Basically the dude is using the figures to get other figures he can't find in stores...and tit for tat for that matter. I don't look at as making trades with other legit collectors as scalping. Or helping people on a message board dedicated to the hobby without making a HUGE markup as scalping. It's bartering. It's not for profit. I look at it in the end as if he used that money to buy 5 different figures.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Jan 9, 2012 14:01:30 GMT -5
Joe very nice finds, and cudos for offering them up for other figs you need.. I for 1, bought 3 of them. 1 I offered up here in a trade,1 for the boy and 1 for my collection..I could myself buying more if I ran across them, and using them to get the RR Michaels and Hart figures..hell I might just hold out to swap 1 for a layla. I see nothing wrong with what your doing. Exactly. Hey, you are just down the road from me... (Akron here lol) Happy hunting good sir.
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Post by boolz on Jan 9, 2012 16:17:23 GMT -5
My question is what's a fair trade? Basic for Elite/Legend? Basic for 2pack? Vicki for Taker in the same series? Basic for some Ralph's figure clothes?
And I don't care how many Vickis of Punks people buy. It's a risk they're willing to take. As small a risk it is it's still a risk of getting stuck with more Vickis than you wanted if suddenly she turns out not to be that hard to find. Which again I think she's not going to be that hard to find. To many people finding multiples.
The whole idea of profit I find silly though. KMart had legends at 6 bucks last week and DM at 8.50. So if someone picked up an extra Smash or Ax for trade they'd have to let it go for 6 plus shipping or be labled a scalper?
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Post by Mr.1050 on Jan 9, 2012 16:38:06 GMT -5
People are upset because their burning the god damn gas specifically to find one in the stores for that old school feel of figure hunting and aren't turning up with anything in their areas. And it's because people are hoarding all the figures in bulk from the cubes/cases. That's why people are upset. It's pretty clear. Wouldn't it piss you guys off if you're looking for a certain figure and you go to your local stores and they have 0 of that guy/woman in stock, but have the rest of the people in the set, in a wide margin of multiples. Then you get on WF, and see that someone made it to a store locally before you did and bought 3-6 of the figure you were looking for to trade with others across the world. It calls the question into mind, are you burning tons of gas and finding nothing because people like that are scavenging the shelves near you for their own benefit, or did MATTEL just not pack them and ship them proportionally well enough for you to have a chance at finding it in the store. That's why people are pissed. I'm not.. Because she's not a necessity for me. But both sides of this case is understandable. But in another light, it's still frustrating to others. Very Well put! I agree 100%
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Post by JoeRocco420 on Jan 9, 2012 16:46:40 GMT -5
In a few weeks all we are gonna see is Vickie. Just be patient
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Jan 9, 2012 17:06:51 GMT -5
a guy on here buys 11 plus e11 punks and is praised for it, yet this gets pooped on. hilarious . this board changes its views from day to day, member to member.So what you're saying is that different members have different views. No. ing. Way.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Jan 9, 2012 17:23:34 GMT -5
a guy on here buys 11 plus e11 punks and is praised for it, yet this gets pooped on. hilarious . this board changes its views from day to day, member to member.So what you're saying is that different members have different views. No. ing. Way. No that is not what I'm saying. And i appreciate the sarcasm. Member to member was referencing that it depends on what members actions are being judged, the view would change. So member to member there actions are judged based on who that member is.
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Post by jfinnomore on Jan 9, 2012 17:33:46 GMT -5
So what you're saying is that different members have different views. No. ing. Way. No that is not what I'm saying. And i appreciate the sarcasm. Member to member was referencing that it depends on what members actions are being judged, the view would change. So member to member there actions are judged based on who that member is. the person that bought a ton of Punk's got flamed as well. i think some peoples memories are skewed more than the boards pick and choose who to flame.
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Post by CollectiblesRob on Jan 9, 2012 19:41:01 GMT -5
I think it's TOTALLY hypocritical to blast on Joejitsu22 for buying extra figs to trade when: 1. If they are out for sale and without a posted limit, in America, we can buy as many we see fit. 2. He's clearly trading 1 for 1, so the figure ethics police, a.k.a. "Scalper Bitches" shouldn't have a problem, since he doesn't make ANY sort of profit. 3. Idiots, you complain he is robbing some poor soul at retail of the opportunity to buy a figure that is sought after, even AFTER he tells you he bought them to trade to those of you collectors on here who seek them, but cannot find them. A whole lot of appreciation some of us on here show a guy who took his time to find figures to trade you, so your collection might be more complete. couldn't agree with this more. great finds man, good looking out for the board.
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