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Post by jfinnomore on Feb 1, 2012 12:36:04 GMT -5
If people have nothing better to do with their time than lurk a hotel lobby or airport baggage carousel for s shot to take a picture with a complete stranger, more power to them. Me? I have plenty of other things I'd rather do, I hate going to the airport to catch a flight let alone for a hobby.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 12:44:08 GMT -5
If people have nothing better to do with their time than lurk a hotel lobby or airport baggage carousel for s shot to take a picture with a complete stranger, more power to them. Me? I have plenty of other things I'd rather do, I hate going to the airport to catch a flight let alone for a hobby. That's how I feel. Plus I would feel like an ass hassling someone that just got off a long flight to sign to my picture or someone who just woke up after a long night and is leaving the hotel. Leave them the hell alone and go to signings if you want an autograph or a picture. They don't have to sign your crap that you shove in their face at 5 am.
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Feb 1, 2012 12:45:39 GMT -5
If you're that petty and disgusting of a person to knowingly go track down a wrestler at a airport or at a hotel when they are not at work, and obsess over them, you need to have your teeth kicked in. These guys are human beings and shouldn't have to deal with this crap by fat geeks on the internet who have no real lives. I'm not naming anyone in particular but there are plenty of people who do it. The more it's looked down upon the better, there is a reason guys like CM Punk and others get a bad rep for being pissy towards fans and it's not there fault, I'd be pretty pissed off as well if I couldn't even check in to my hotel and relax before and after a show. -.- A member of a toy forum talking down to people as if his life is that much better: lol At the end of the day: some of these wrestlers actually like meeting their fans: get over it. I happened to meet CM Punk in november...at a hotel & he couldn't have been nicer to me. Some of us people overseas will most likely never get the opportunity to meet some of these guys again: which is why I do it, I want to meet some of my favourite wrestlers at least one time & then I'll stop doing the hotels. and besides: the hotel is like 5 minutes from my home, I'd be foolish to pass the twice a year opportuntiy up.
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Post by Valbroski on Feb 1, 2012 13:20:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't go out of my way to search for hotels or airports that wrestlers may be at but if I ran into a wrestler at a store or after an event I wouldn't hesitate to talk to them. I've never met a wrestler before but I think I'd probably just at most want a hand shake or to talk to them for a bit if they weren't busy. I think I'd value the experience more than an autograph or picture.
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Post by juicewinslow on Feb 1, 2012 13:35:46 GMT -5
Hey man, you got to do whatever it is that makes you happy. Just make sure you're respectful while doing it.
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Post by jfinnomore on Feb 1, 2012 14:36:35 GMT -5
If you're that petty and disgusting of a person to knowingly go track down a wrestler at a airport or at a hotel when they are not at work, and obsess over them, you need to have your teeth kicked in. These guys are human beings and shouldn't have to deal with this crap by fat geeks on the internet who have no real lives. I'm not naming anyone in particular but there are plenty of people who do it. The more it's looked down upon the better, there is a reason guys like CM Punk and others get a bad rep for being pissy towards fans and it's not there fault, I'd be pretty pissed off as well if I couldn't even check in to my hotel and relax before and after a show. -.- A member of a toy forum talking down to people as if his life is that much better: lol At the end of the day: some of these wrestlers actually like meeting their fans: get over it. I happened to meet CM Punk in november...at a hotel & he couldn't have been nicer to me. Some of us people overseas will most likely never get the opportunity to meet some of these guys again: which is why I do it, I want to meet some of my favourite wrestlers at least one time & then I'll stop doing the hotels. and besides: the hotel is like 5 minutes from my home, I'd be foolish to pass the twice a year opportuntiy up. Just like TMZ would be foolish to not lurk hotels to bother celebrities to make a buck, doesn't make it right or respectable.
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Feb 1, 2012 16:16:48 GMT -5
A member of a toy forum talking down to people as if his life is that much better: lol At the end of the day: some of these wrestlers actually like meeting their fans: get over it. I happened to meet CM Punk in november...at a hotel & he couldn't have been nicer to me. Some of us people overseas will most likely never get the opportunity to meet some of these guys again: which is why I do it, I want to meet some of my favourite wrestlers at least one time & then I'll stop doing the hotels. and besides: the hotel is like 5 minutes from my home, I'd be foolish to pass the twice a year opportuntiy up. Just like TMZ would be foolish to not lurk hotels to bother celebrities to make a buck, doesn't make it right or respectable. I'm not looking to make a buck nor do I shove items in their face ala TMZ. I'm always extremely polite & respectable & I've yet to have a bad experience with a wrestler.
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Post by purpleisaaw on Feb 1, 2012 23:05:03 GMT -5
All I want is an autograph. When you are in the public eye so prominently it is only expected to be asked for autographs and pictures. Does it get monotonous and is a bit of a hassle, sure but since I have spent thousands of dollars on these guys giving them a career I feel like it wouldnt be too much to ask for them to sign their names. I am not following them home I am just asking them for an autograph or a picture, if they say no ok, that's fine although a total dick move, it is their right. I will not pester them but I will simply ask. If I was a wrestler I would always sign because I would understand that my fans let me keep living my dream but I hold it against no wrestler to deny an autograph for any reason. A few years ago I met Paul London at a bar and asked for an autograph and he said that it meant alot and that he knew he was a "superstar" because he was being asked for autographs.
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Post by @3CountRadio on Feb 1, 2012 23:26:08 GMT -5
All I want is an autograph. When you are in the public eye so prominently it is only expected to be asked for autographs and pictures. Does it get monotonous and is a bit of a hassle, sure but since I have spent thousands of dollars on these guys giving them a career I feel like it wouldnt be too much to ask for them to sign their names. I am not following them home I am just asking them for an autograph or a picture, if they say no ok, that's fine although a total dick move, it is their right. I will not pester them but I will simply ask. If I was a wrestler I would always sign because I would understand that my fans let me keep living my dream but I hold it against no wrestler to deny an autograph for any reason. A few years ago I met Paul London at a bar and asked for an autograph and he said that it meant alot and that he knew he was a "superstar" because he was being asked for autographs. They don't owe you anything. Period. You have a really sh*tty mentality about this. Just because you spend money, they owe you an autograph? Seriously? Pay money, and go to an autograph signing. You're acting all nonchalant about this, as if you're going to just happen to see them somewhere, which is absolutely moronic. You are purposely going out of your way to be somewhere they are going to be, and you're going to bug them to sign your stuff. If you happen to bump into them in a restaurant? Fine. But purposely going out of your way to be at the hotel when they get there? Idiotic. And sure, you're not following them home. But you are bothering them in their personal time. Once again, don't be that guy.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 1, 2012 23:43:14 GMT -5
You're absolutely correct, they aren't borderline psychopaths, they actually ARE psychopaths. You can sit here and try and rationalize it all you want, but if you were to ask the wrestlers if they had a choice between not getting hassled by stalkers at the airport or the hotel, and gettings hassled, 100% of them would say they'd rather be left alone. Wow you truly are an idiot. That is all. The ARE psychopaths? 100%? Silly tosser Just because you frown upon it, doesn't make them psychopaths. I've honestly never seen a psychotic autograph/photo collector & have only heard of a few personally. Everyone whom I've seen at hotels are respectable & friendly people. The only annoying people I've encountered are fan girls. & I don't take kindly to being called a psychopath. I have friends who work for WWE, TNA and even NJPW.....you're wrong. You're absolutely correct, they aren't borderline psychopaths, they actually ARE psychopaths. You can sit here and try and rationalize it all you want, but if you were to ask the wrestlers if they had a choice between not getting hassled by stalkers at the airport or the hotel, and gettings hassled, 100% of them would say they'd rather be left alone. I bet if you asked the wrestlers if they would rather have millions of fans and be making millions of dollars, that they would rather be that top guy who gets bugged by everyone than some jobber like Chris Masters who no one wants to meet. Or wait? You're saying they get into this business not knowing how it works or wanting to be World Champion? Give me a break with your over exaggerative ludicrous comments. I've never waited at an airport or hotel, but I see no problem with it as long as you are respectful. The wrestlers are going to get "bothered" either way, so whether it be by someone who premeditated the encounter or someone who happened to get lucky, they still are going to get asked for autographs and photos. Jeff Hardy makes the comment on his new TNA DVD that it gets really tiring at times to do the fan stuff, but he says it's also something that is absolutely vital to your career. If those guys are nice to the fans, the fans return the favor by buying t-shirts, dvds, action figures, and by watching the show every week making sure those guys have a job. CM is right imo, it's self marketing. Listen, I just paid $140 for an AXXESS ticket to meet HBK at Mania, but if I knew he was going to be walking through the lobby of the Weston around the corner for free I see no issue with going there, waiting patiently until he appears to be passing by, politely stopping him, and getting to meet the guy who I think is the greatest professional wrestler of all time. Selling it on Ebay is a whole different story, and that isn't something that I really want to get into because it's a whole different conversation. However, a fan, wanting to meet a guy they idolize, not a big deal imo. Again, as long as they are being respectful. Also, there is absolutely no difference between going to the arena or the hotel imo, the guy is going to stop only if they want to in both situations. For those being critical, I pose the question, if your favorite wrestler walked right in front of you today when you were out at Target, would you stop him? If you said yes, then you're the same person in that hotel lobby imo. It makes no difference if you knew he was going to be there or not, you still stopped him, and that's the same difference in my mind. QFT There's a big difference between randomly meeting someone at Target, and going out of your way to track them down and stalk them. I also disagree that being cool to fans is all that important for your career. CM Punk and Randy Orton for example are both notoriously unfriendly to fans, and it's not just them playing up a heel character either. I once witnessed with my own two eyes at Mohegan Sun Randy Orton tell an 8 year old kid to go f himself when he asked him for an autograph, and that's actually one of the nicer stories I know about him in regards to how he reacts towards fans. CM Punk has had numerous interviews where he flat out says that if you see him in public, at a hotel, a restaurant, an airport etc. do not approach him, he does not want to be bothered, he does not want to take a picture, he does not want to sign autographs, just leave him alone. Yet still they are two of the most popular guys on the roster. You dont even know what the word stalking means. Stop using it until you understand what it means. How popular do you think someone like Punk or Orton would be if the mass majority of fans knew they were like this? You have high percentages that would give anything to meet Punk or Orton. What if that 8 year old fan met Randy Orton at the hotel and found his hero told him to "f himself". I wonder if he would continue to be a fan. Certainly his parents would step in and probably find him a new hero. And those are the same parents that put out their hard earned dollars to buy all that Orton merchandise. Its true....sometimes its better not to ever meet your heroes. But its a shame that it has to be that way. Tell me something normal about this scenario: You live in a town. You have zero reason to be in a hotel lobby, or airport, other than to get someone's signature on your stuff. You literally hang out in a place, and wait for people to show up, and sign something. What part of that situation is normal to you? I'm sorry, is that your Zack Ryder tattoo in your avatar? Who are you to judge what is normal? And what the hell is normal anyway? OWNED! Man, you're such a badass... Not trying to be, I'm entitled to have an opinion, have a nice day. EXACTLY!!!! 100% agree. You have the right to an opinion....as I have or as anyone else does. You dont like it....dont participate. I hate soccer....so I dont play it or watch it. But I dont get on WFigs and rant and rave about how horrid the sport is. Hey man, you got to do whatever it is that makes you happy. Just make sure you're respectful while doing it. Well put. All I want is an autograph. When you are in the public eye so prominently it is only expected to be asked for autographs and pictures. Does it get monotonous and is a bit of a hassle, sure but since I have spent thousands of dollars on these guys giving them a career I feel like it wouldnt be too much to ask for them to sign their names. I am not following them home I am just asking them for an autograph or a picture, if they say no ok, that's fine although a total dick move, it is their right. I will not pester them but I will simply ask. If I was a wrestler I would always sign because I would understand that my fans let me keep living my dream but I hold it against no wrestler to deny an autograph for any reason. A few years ago I met Paul London at a bar and asked for an autograph and he said that it meant alot and that he knew he was a "superstar" because he was being asked for autographs. They don't owe you anything. Period. You have a really sh*tty mentality about this. Just because you spend money, they owe you an autograph? Seriously? Pay money, and go to an autograph signing. You're acting all nonchalant about this, as if you're going to just happen to see them somewhere, which is absolutely moronic. You are purposely going out of your way to be somewhere they are going to be, and you're going to bug them to sign your stuff. If you happen to bump into them in a restaurant? Fine. But purposely going out of your way to be at the hotel when they get there? Idiotic. And sure, you're not following them home. But you are bothering them in their personal time. Once again, don't be that guy. They dont OWE me anything. But they OWE it to themselves and their careers if they would like to advance to the top. Sure there are exceptions of guys who are pricks to fans and yet are at the top....but they are the exception and not the rule. Cena, up until a couple of years ago, was one of the nicest guys...going out of his way to sign an auto or take a picture. Edge has always been one of the nicest guys. Your boy Ryder has always been cool. Purple...good luck in your search. BE THAT GUY! Dont let a couple of guys from Wfigs who dont care for the hobby stop you and dont let the other handful of guys who WISH they could find this info. hate b/c they cant participate. Jealousy is an ugly color. Not naming anyone in particular.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Feb 2, 2012 0:16:54 GMT -5
I don't hate something purely because I don't participate...and I'm by no means jelous that I don't have anything to do but follow wrestlers around. Plus, can it not just be a television show that you love? The obsession with celebrity is unreal in this world, people who go out and track these people down on a regular basis are just living vicariously through the success of others, go out and do something with your own life. Enjoy the show for what it is.
As i've said, if you see one when you're around and about, or waiting to see the show, course, go politely meet them. I was wondering around Liverpool when i supprisingly saw Del Rio was doing a signing, I went to that...I would not have gone and found the hotel he was staying at, I don't see how anyone can fail to see that it passes boundries.
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Post by comintogetcha on Feb 2, 2012 0:27:20 GMT -5
So because we're not psycho stalkers, it means me must be jealous? I fail to see the logic there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 2:16:06 GMT -5
Try catching them as they are arriving at the arena
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 2:49:04 GMT -5
Jealousy? I wish I didn't have anything better to do than stalk around hotels like a creep at 5 am...
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Feb 2, 2012 5:17:33 GMT -5
Yeah CM I think the jealousy argument is redundant.
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Post by jfinnomore on Feb 2, 2012 7:33:32 GMT -5
Jealousy? I wish I didn't have anything better to do than stalk around hotels like a creep at 5 am... right? i wish i had enough free time to lurk airports and hotel lobbies. so i am jealous of that aspect, but as i said before if i had said free time i certainly wouldn't spend it at the airport. that place is awful.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 2, 2012 18:57:23 GMT -5
So because we're not psycho stalkers, it means me must be jealous? I fail to see the logic there. You seem to have a lot of trouble with the definition of stalking. Like I said...stop using the word, you clearly dont know what it means. Yeah CM I think the jealousy argument is redundant. I named no man in that statement. Yet we get all the haters promptly defending they are not jealous. Jealousy breeds hate. Honestly, I have no idea who is or who isnt. I dont care. The whole "stalking" theory or "wrestlers hate that" is MORE played out. Those who can...do. Those who cant....call it creepy.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Feb 2, 2012 19:19:11 GMT -5
So because we're not psycho stalkers, it means me must be jealous? I fail to see the logic there. You seem to have a lot of trouble with the definition of stalking. Like I said...stop using the word, you clearly dont know what it means. Yeah CM I think the jealousy argument is redundant. I named no man in that statement. Yet we get all the haters promptly defending they are not jealous. Jealousy breeds hate. Honestly, I have no idea who is or who isnt. I dont care. The whole "stalking" theory or "wrestlers hate that" is MORE played out. Those who can...do. Those who cant....call it creepy. It is nothing to do with the ability to do so. It's the decency to respect people. They are not toys for the public to prod at, they're people. It's their job, they should get to enjoy a private life and so should the people doing it. Do you really have nothing in the world you would rather do or achieve in your own life? I'm not trying to preach, I know your set in your ways, but I'm sure you can see the point.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 2, 2012 23:33:25 GMT -5
You seem to have a lot of trouble with the definition of stalking. Like I said...stop using the word, you clearly dont know what it means. I named no man in that statement. Yet we get all the haters promptly defending they are not jealous. Jealousy breeds hate. Honestly, I have no idea who is or who isnt. I dont care. The whole "stalking" theory or "wrestlers hate that" is MORE played out. Those who can...do. Those who cant....call it creepy. It is nothing to do with the ability to do so. It's the decency to respect people. They are not toys for the public to prod at, they're people. It's their job, they should get to enjoy a private life and so should the people doing it. Do you really have nothing in the world you would rather do or achieve in your own life? I'm not trying to preach, I know your set in your ways, but I'm sure you can see the point. Its not like I spend every day doing it. Like any other hobby that you might enjoy, this is one I enjoy. My friends and I get to go have fun and collect autographs, see who can complete their programs first, see who has the most autos in the WWE E, share travel stories, etc. And its fun to visit different cities and see the culture and we get to do while its centered around pro wrestling.
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Post by Nick on Feb 3, 2012 0:28:19 GMT -5
Here is my opinion on this whole take.
Going to a hotel or airport isn't exactly something I'd do but is NOT being a STALKER. Some wrestlers actually enjoy meeting their fans and taking pictures. Some people like meeting there favorite superstars and idols. And it's not everyday you get to meet Triple H, Undertaker, Kane etc. so why not? As long as you're respectful to the wrestler it is not a problem.
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