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Post by Terrys Wrestling Figures on Feb 20, 2012 23:44:42 GMT -5
- nice choice of word from Barrett lol, yet the refs didn't rush to him,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2012 23:46:54 GMT -5
....alright, who smited me? I imagine it was over the TLC comment earlier. Anyways, great RAW. Lots of story progression.
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Post by Scotty on Feb 20, 2012 23:57:11 GMT -5
Well if the ppv is still listed under wwe's schedule I highly doubt it I remember hearing it was removed and that's why it has been rumored as of late. That serves enough evidence
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Post by JL24FPS on Feb 21, 2012 0:03:41 GMT -5
I actually cringed after Ziggler was thrown out. I hope Barrett is alright... At first I thought a separated shoulder, but he could have easily popped that back in... Looks like he's got a broken arm. Damn... Injuries are never fun.
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Post by NotoriusVIG on Feb 21, 2012 0:09:44 GMT -5
It was a pretty entertaining Raw tonight with an “epic” segment with Triple H and Taker, plus Buck Zumhoff was referenced. That alone makes the show great. Also, we got an edgier Cena, so here goes everything.
The show starts with Eve and The Bellas talking and Eve admits she was just using Ryder. Now, she has Cena wrapped around her finger and she is going to use him to get to the top. Only problem is Cena heard everything as he was standing right behind her. He laughs and walks away. Eve officially turns heel and is ousted by Cena in a mere minute and a half! Cena comes to the ring but Eve follows him and says she wants to explain. Lots of heat for her here. Cena interrupts and says she was sipping on the skank juice. He says he lost a good friend because of her, in Ryder. He says Eve and The Rock would be great together because they are both scandalous bitches. Now, Eve tries to put her moves onto Cena but he has none of it and says he wants to remain disease free. Eve begins to cry as Cena leaves and the refs aid Eve. I guess they don't mind being used by Eve.
Sheamus v. Mark Henry-Mark put over Sheamus in this one in a basic match. The finish was Henry going for the World's Strongest Slam but Sheamus countered by landing behind him and hitting the Brogue Kick.
Johnny Ace and Otunga are talking about how everyone else is talking about Ace. Teddy Long joins them but Ace said he had no idea about the support from Elimination Chamber last night. Long is pissed and wants to poll the fans on who should be GM of Raw and Smackdown. He also says anyone on SD can beat Otunga so Ace tells him to pick an SD wrestler and they will fight Otunga later. That sure sounds like fun.
Truth/Kofi v. Primo/Epico-This thing had good heat and Kofi had a great hot tag comeback. The finish was Trouble in Paradise on Primo. Really quick stuff but decent enough.
They showed a good Hall of Fame video for Ron Simmons, including football clips and WCW stuff. Then, Josh Matthews interviews Jericho about last night. Jericho says the EC match was unfair as he was not pinned or eliminated by anyone and he questioned Punk's reign as champion. Jericho said he was the best in the world and not Punk and that he will win the 10 man battle royal for the shot at Punk at WM 28 that is scheduled for the main event tonight.
David Otunga v. Ezekial Jackson-Yea, that is right, Teddy Long picked Jackson to fight Otunga. Out of all the SD wrestlers, he picks Zeke and it totally blew up in his face. Otunga won after Jackson went for a splash in the corner and missed, hitting the post with his head. Then, Otunga hit a choke spinebuster for the win. Otunga looks so green most of the time but there are times, like at EC, where he really shows potential. At least, in that pic from EC he did! Also, Zeke was in a chin lock and had some wacky facials going on!
They showed a recap of HBK/HHH from last week and Taker came out. I wrote a ton for this, so here goes. Taker said he has had to live with the beating he took from WM 27 for the last year and it has been pure hell for him. He has faced much uncertainty and HHH's choice from last week was not his to make. He says that this whole thing has to end and that we are in the midst of an apocalypse of a generation of wrestling. Taker and HHH are the last of their kind and his suits, etc. just cover up how he really is inside. HHH won't lie to him and he will look him in the eye and answer him. HHH comes out and talks but Taker tells him to shut up. Taker says his excuses are pitiful. HHH says that it is his fate to make sure the WWE exists for future generations and Taker's fate is to carry and pass on the torch to others and lead the way. HHH says he won't extinguish the flame. Taker asked if it is bad for business if Taker is gone or if HHH is gone. HHH counters by saying that the last year has been filled with a lot of certainty for him. He is not looking for redemption and he knows how to finish Taker and Taker wants that but he won't do it. Taker calls him a coward just like HBK from last week. HHH gets upset for a second but he stops and says no and leaves. Taker then says that HHH knows he couldn't do what HBK couldn't do in beating Taker. He says HHH knows HBK is better. This infuriates HHH to return to the ring and accept the match but only if it is a Hell in the Cell match. Taker pats him on the shoulder and leaves. Very, very good segment here and very memorable. I was a little worried on how they would be able to trump last year's match but now I am starting to see things clearer. This will probably be very good as they are already telling a great story and they haven't even fought yet.
Daniel Bryan is out and says he is considered a role model by many and that he beat five other guys last night to retain his World title.
DB v. Santino-This was real quick and Santino didn't even hit the cobra. Santino went for a roll-up, DB kicked out, and countered with the LaBelle Lock for the tap.
Kelly Kelly/Aksana v. The Bellas-I don't even think Kelly got in during this match. The Bellas did the switcheroo spot where the hurt twin rolled out and the fresh twin got in while the ref wasn't looking. Then, the one twin hit a face buster for the pin.
Cena is back out to talk about The Rock. He says The Rock is no longer the people's champ and that he has a staff of people who make him look good (writers, etc.). Cena does not respect him because Cena never left despite doing movies. The Rock left as soon as he could get out (and who really blames him?). Cena fights for the people in the back who are proud to be pro wrestlers. Cena had a definite edge on this whole episode and it would be nice to see an edgier Cena until WM.
The main was that 10 man battle royal for the shot at WWE champ CM Punk at WM. The 10 guys were Miz, Truth, Khali, Dolph, Cody, Show, Jericho, Santino, Kofi, and Wade. Kofi was a trooper in selling his EC wounds the whole night in both his matches. Punk was out for commentary and battled with Cole a lot. Khali was out first as the other nine guys knocked him out. Cody and Wade tried to eliminate Show but that failed. Miz was next by Kofi and Truth and Lawler said “oh how the mighty have fallen.” The Miz is in a bad spot right now and so is Evan Bourne as it seems Truth is slotted to replace him with Kofi. Next, was a finisher/signature parade by a few guys until Santino threw out Wade and then Truth to great heat. Ziggler was pressed out by Show onto Wade and Truth. Wade looked like he got injured as they had a stretcher out for him for a while. Punk said one of the EMTs looked like Buck Zumhoff, which probably flew over millions of heads! Santino was almost thrown out but he skinned the cat and hit the cobra on Jericho but Cody sent him out after. Cody was out soon by Show. Jericho and Show were left, as Jericho locked in a choke and they did a Royal Rumble 04 finish except Cody helped pull Show out as Jericho hung on. Punk gets into the ring and stares down Jericho and offered his hand. However, Jericho walked off like a douche.
If you are watching Raw for the workrates and matches, this show isn't for you but it was still a pretty good, entertaining night. Lots of set-up for WM especially the incredible Taker/HHH segment.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 21, 2012 0:21:39 GMT -5
So Ziggler wasn't injured... all of the medics thought that he was injured... We all thought he was seriously injured... PROOF that no one is a better seller than Dolph Ziggler. Testify brother Juice...
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Post by K5 on Feb 21, 2012 0:32:12 GMT -5
So Ziggler wasn't injured... all of the medics thought that he was injured... We all thought he was seriously injured... PROOF that no one is a better seller than Dolph Ziggler. great news.
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Post by J12 on Feb 21, 2012 0:47:50 GMT -5
Fun Raw, but did anyone else feel like the way they went about the Eve turn was incredibly strange? What was the point? Why do it backstage? And more importantly, why did she have a mental breakdown and need to be carried away by officials? Everything about that segment just seemed off.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Feb 21, 2012 2:22:39 GMT -5
I know this is nitpicking, but I really don't like that they had Jericho win the #1 Contendership -- at least not already. This should have been built up a little more as a legitimate feud a little more. Now, it's just going to be a "you're champion, I'm #1 contender, let's fight" feud.
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Post by xtremeperil on Feb 21, 2012 4:34:47 GMT -5
Okay, I wasn't going to do a review. I recorded Raw, and my friend told me the matches that happened, and I thought, their is no freakin' way I'm watching Otunga vs. Jackson when I could just fast forward. And, as a principle, I only do reviews if I seen all the material. Then I saw the opening backstage segment, and I was like yup, I have to destroy this. I have to review this. And it turned out to be a Raw that was incredibly bipolar because it was sending me all over the place. I Picard'ed, I jumped up and down in excitement, I yelled at the screen, I laughed, it pissed me off, it almost made me cry. So, strap in, we're going to pyscho-analyze this bitch! Monday Night Raw
Opening Segment We kick off with a backstage segment that leads into the in-ring segment. Let's start with the backstage portion, the portion that pissed me the hell off. Firstly, this was probably the most anti-climatic heel turn in the history of professional wrestling. Definitely from all I've seen, which admittadly not that much. Why was it so bad, well for one, it came the out of nowhere! It just happened, it felt so awkard. In fact, I have the transcript, right here...
Brie Bella: Hey, how's Zack? You guys are friends right? Eve: Ha, no! Heel turn! Brie Bella: Wait, what? Eve: I was just using them. Brie Bella: Wow, I thought you were better than that.
Okay, it didn't go exactly like that, it was actually Nikki doing the talking. But seriously, it came out of nowhere, she just brought it up randomly in the conversation. Did you catch the other problem in that conversation? That's right, the Bella's were playing the faces. They seemed appauled at what Eve had done. Their heels, in fact they resumed that role later in the night. Why!? Plus, why was she even talking to them? They weren't friends, they were never shown to be anything except enemies. I know she's a heel now but she wasn't in the start. That would be like seeing Jericho having a conversation about the weather with JBL before he threw Shawn's head in the Jeritron. If you're going to have the whole all heels are friends, do it after the turn, not before. Why not have her reveal it to Kelly, her best friend for months, a face, and someone who it would've made sense that she looked down at Eve for it. Christ, that's something simple!
Oh, but there's more. The one way, the ONE WAY, this all would fit and would have an accurate build would be if she was somehow working with Kane. But Kane was completely and utterly ignored during the entire segment. Honestly, I doubt Kane will end up being involved, they way they portrayed it really just came across as Eve being a selfish bitch. Hopefully, I'm wrong and they have something better planed for this but that doesn't make the segment come across any better. I seriously think Eve was just being a bitch.
Oh, and one more thing about this segment. Remember her reasoning, to get ahead in her career. Anyone remember where her career was when this all started, that's right getting Diva title matches. Now, I know what you're thinking, she was losing those matches. Fair enough but remember when she main evented Raw? Yeah, that hurt to say but she did, in a match that less than a minute with Beth for the Diva's title match. Why did she lose THAT match, well, she let her angry over Ryder blind her and it ended up costing her the match. That's right, in order to get her career ahead, she took a dive in the Diva's Championship match. Eve, let me tell you something, you're not Chyna, the Diva's Championship is as good as it gets for you.
Once again, I'm hoping this all blows up in my face because Kane somehow forced her, but not with magic, some other way. But why did this piss me off so much because Eve is one of my favorite Diva's currently. I mean her mic skills are awful but her in-ring work is pretty solid. Now, I haven't even finished with this promo because they take this crapout to the ring.
And, it's good. I liked this half. Cena was entertaining, reminded me of some of his jabs at Lita. And it was rather enjoyable seeing Eve trying her best to continue her master plan to advance her career, fail, and then have a breakdown because she put her career at risk by getting tangled with Kane just to get to Cena and then lost it all. Best part was when Cena threw his hands away from Eve in the "Me No Want" pose. I know it doesn't really work, but I'd love to see someone insert Pedobear into that picture. Was it enough for me to forgive the first half, no. But it did bump the score up from it's .5.
Segment Rating: 1.5/5
Opening Match This was what it was. Honestly, after their match at Summerslam I was a bit dissappointed by this bout. Still, it was kind of decent. Liked the finish. I'm kind of worn out from the above rant.
Match Rating: 2.5/5
Tag Team . This match ended up as good as the last, my problem is that we are going from Air Boom to Kofi and Truth. I know it right now, that's going to be a team. Now, Truth is decent in the ring, but I hate his character and the two don't balance out. Plus, they just weren't nearly as exciting as Air Boom was and yes, I'm more pissed at Bourne than anyone else. Now, I'm not taking points of for this because, hell, I could be wrong. I mean yes, they worked in the battle royal to but ... I could be wrong.
Match Rating: 2.5/5
Raw Vs. Smackdown Normally, the best matches come when two wrestlers wrestle similar styles. Examples, two of my favorite matches of all time, Benoit vs. Angle at the Rumble 03, and RVD vs. Jerry Lynn at Living Dangerously 99. So, how is it that two black muscular limited moveset wrestlers don't have a five star match? Pft, beats me. This was as bad as I expected.
Match Rating: 1/5
I Love You WWE Let's start off with the Taker half. It was bad. I don't know what it is, if he didn't come with a motorcycle, his promos just don't interest me. So, Taker didn't really capitivate me, and a bunch of guys in the crowd as I heard "You Suck" several times ... and those in' "What?" chants. Then the Game comes out and it gets slightly better. It wasn't until the very end where it really made an impression. While it was a bit funny to hear Triple H suggesting going all the way with Taker, my mind didn't jump to poor sex jokes. It went to one place, Hell In A Cell. I was honestly kind of expecting him to say it in that moment, but it was odd, because in the same way I wasn't sure if they would. But when he did, even though in my mind I already kind of convinced myself it was going to happen, I just lost it. I was literally jumping up and down it was awesome.
In fact, thinking about it later, I almost cried. Because it is, it's the end and it's perfect. I'm hundred percent convinced that Taker and Trips will be done after this. I don't really see either wrestling after Mania. I guess Trips might but I just don't see it. I said that when at it's best, nothing can beat wrestling. And letting the announcement and what it means sink in, that's the best. Moments like that, I just can't explain it. I'm definitely getting Mania. And the promo is definitely getting extra points for that.
Segment Rating: 4/5
Daniel Bryan Decent promo, crappy match.
Segment Rating: 1.5/5
Diva's Match I've explained why I hated the fact that the Bella's go back to playing heels in the same night where they served as they face at the beginning, right? Yeah well, this match sucked. Not really related.
Match Rating: 1/5
Cena Again Undertaker and Triple H wasn't the best promo of the night. A lot of what made the last promo so high was the announcement, as a whole, it wasn't that great. This promo was different. I was a bit upset when I saw Cena come out again, and I'm a fan of the guy, but my upsettness did not last long. Cena was on tonight, everything he said felt genuine and that's because it was genuine. Everything he said is pretty much spot on to why come Wrestlemania I'm 100% behind John Cena. Honestly, not a fault with this promo, and I can find fault with a one minute backstage promo enough so to rant about it for about 700 word.
Segment Rating: 5/5
Battle Royal CM Punk made an awesome Mike Adamle joke. The match was decent. Ziggler is an amazing seller, it really looked like he was injured. Then I saw him walk away from the ring and was like, he's fine, definitely the best seller today then. Nothing else really happened, they teased both a Rhodes/Santino and Rhodes/Show feud and Jericho won. It was average.
Match Rating: 3/5
Show Rating: 2.4/5
Final Thoughts The promo's, minus the first backstage one, really delivered here. The announcement of the Hell In A Cell match was incredible, and the moment of the show but Cena's promo on a whole was the best part of the show. The matches well weren't that good. Which is fine, with the Wrestlemania they're building up, no matter what crappy matches are given on the free show, come Mania they'll more than make up for it.
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Post by done on Feb 21, 2012 6:40:40 GMT -5
I enjoyed Cena last night - and yes I did fall asleep in the middle of RAW!
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Post by done on Feb 21, 2012 6:42:04 GMT -5
I'd love to see Kofi face Punk at like ER if Punk's still champion!
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Post by Cammi Oh on Feb 21, 2012 7:31:02 GMT -5
So Ziggler wasn't injured... all of the medics thought that he was injured... We all thought he was seriously injured... PROOF that no one is a better seller than Dolph Ziggler. great news. Agreed, I logged out before the show was over. I thought Ziggler was the one injured. I was kinda worried about it all night. So, I logged in this morning really quickly to see if he was okay and everyone was talking about Barrett. Poor Barrett. I hope Big Show walks away and never looks back.
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Post by wabarrett on Feb 21, 2012 9:54:54 GMT -5
What an amazing, amazing RAW.
- Triple H and Undertaker in a Hell in a Cell at Mania? I think I pooed myself with excitement.
- Cena was at his very best; he showed just how damn good a promo cutter he is when he's not sticking to the same formula. And kudos to him for seemingly getting the crowd on his side last night.
- Eve is a good actor. And so, so fit.
- Rosa Mendes drives me crazy.
- The crowd actually got involved in every match and segment, I don't think they went dead for anything. And that is a rarity in modern day WWE.
- lol at that girl's reaction to getting that close to CM Punk.
- The only negative point of the show (except for another s*** Diva match), is Wade Barrett getting injured... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..
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Post by wabarrett on Feb 21, 2012 13:08:02 GMT -5
I want to sex Rosa.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 21, 2012 16:07:51 GMT -5
DAMN this board is still packed, What an EPIC Raw and it even topped that epic Raw with Taker's return and Bryan vs Punk.
Cena's promo on Rock was great and true. The HHH/Taker promo was the highlight and at WM28 in a HIAC its on. The two greatest in HIAC matches colliding in an epic WM HIAC match will be a match for the ages, Both guys also have about 20 HIAC matches combined.
Bryan vs Sheamus at WM28 should be good Wrestling wise and storyline wise since their match got bumped last year, Hopefully Bryan retains.
Jericho vs Punk is confirmed and that will be an epic showdown between the two Best In The Worlds for the WWE Title. Another match for the ages and should be a classic.
Raw was epic and WM is shaping up to be better than WM17 and to be the biggest, greatest and best of all time.
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Post by done on Feb 21, 2012 19:58:04 GMT -5
Why isn't this the Wrestlemania theme?
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on Feb 27, 2012 21:15:31 GMT -5
Think Jericho jus smiled because of how awesome this is, two greatest on the mic ever IMO going at it
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on Feb 27, 2012 21:17:15 GMT -5
Lite brite trending worldwide
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Post by Edge618 on Feb 27, 2012 21:20:43 GMT -5
I can honestly say this is the most exciting and best build to a WWE Championship match at WrestleMania in about 10 years. Jericho and Punk together just have "it", and it was easy to see before tonight but tonight really proved that they have everything to have one of the greatest matches in Mania history, and some of the greatest feud building in Mania history.
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