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Post by Boy Wonder on Mar 7, 2012 21:24:48 GMT -5
CM Punk also wore basketball shorts. Still made him the hottest name on the indies. Didn't switch to trunks until he was about to go to WWE
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Post by カMute09 on Mar 8, 2012 0:40:30 GMT -5
I've worked in plenty of locker rooms and I have 10 years of relevant pro wrestling experience bro. Sounds like you're working in shiiiitty locker rooms with backyarders trying be to pro's. How am I a intellectually- disabled person for calling you out on being wrong about guys with shoes? I don't understand your new argument...you have to wear wrestling boots until you either prove yourself to be a good worker on the indies or get signed by the WWE? I'm confused. I wouldnt say I am working in crapty locker rooms. I mean I'm not working ROH, PWG, Chikara, etc. But they are far away from backyard feds. I'm not wrong about guys and shoes. Tons of promoters and even more wrestlers will say that. A lot of long tenured pros will tell new guys that they need to make sure to get themselves proper gear....boots being one of those. I'm not saying you gotta wear boots till you make it big. I am saying that when you are in WWE.....your shoes no longer mean as much. Before Punk switched to kickers.....he wore wrestling boots. I dont know if his first indy match he had boots....maybe he didnt. But at some point along the way....some veteran probably sat him down and told him to get himself a pair of boots. So you can say we cover ourselves in intellectually- disabled person because we proved you wrong? And I know for a fact that in either 07 or 08 around the time he was fueding with Taker Edge wore Nike Shox under his kickpads. They arent exactly a shoe you get confused with boots. As for Punk he wear Optomix ametuer shoes under his as yu can see the writing on the bottom. And way to try covering your ass by saying that a guy like Davey has surpassed the point where his ring gear matters but all that does is make you a hypocrite. Point in case is that it doesnt matter what you wear under your kickpads. As long as you are safe and comfortable and can work it wont affect how well you do in this business. So to London Ross go with whats best for you and ignore whatever this bunghole fanboy CM (I stalk wrestlers) Sheepstopper because he thinks he is better then everyone and that he is always right. The only thing you proved is opinions are like bungholes....everyone has one and most of them stink. You know for a fact that Edge wore Nike Shox. So what? Even if we take this as fact......it proves nothing. For the MAJORITY of his career....including his indy days.....Edge wore boots. Tons of people have worn shoes, sneakers, etc in some match at some point. I'm not covering my ass....why would I need to? Telling you FACTS doesnt make me a hypocrite. If you cant understand that Joe Blow the indy wrestler needs to have proper equipment moreso than John Cena.....God help you. Seems like pretty basic and common knowledge. As long as you are safe and comfortable? Dude.....do you work on the indys trying to secure bookings? If you're a guy who works for $20 a match.....safe and comfortable is irrelevant in the promoter's eyes. You are seeing it from Davey Richards perspective or from someone in WWE. See it from the local indy kid trying to work his way up and is looking to get as many bookings as he can. Bunghole fanboy?! LMAO!!! Ok kid....be the internet tough guy. I'm gonna pound the keys on my keyboard so hard cuz CM made me so mad!! I'll show him. I'll call him names and say he stalks wrestlers. LOL!! So tiresome. Put your jealousy aside and stick to the topic at hand. London, you should definitely take the opinion of some kid who watches ROH and uses "work rate" as the solution to everything over someone who actually promotes, books and writes shows. I'm guessing you must be a worker, considering you see it for exactly what it is. When did the shoes/kickpads combo get such a bad rep for not being able to wrestle well? I've been in A LOT of locker room and I've never seen/heard it. If you're a 115 pound skinny kid with baggy pants and a t-shirt, yeah, maybe you should wear boots. But if you actually know how to wrestle, shoes/kickpads shouldn't be an issue. Also, I would like to know why these "promoters" are even using these people to begin with if they look down on the shoes/kickpads look. Normally promoters tend to look at pictures and watch videos of a guy's match before deciding to bring him in. [/quote] Not having boots doesnt equate to having a bad rep for not working well. It equates to not looking the part. Local promoters are trying to sell a product. Eventhough you are putting on a show for 400 fans.....you want the perception to be that you are putting on a show for 5000 fans. That you are not just some local yokel....eventhough you are. Its about perception. If I book Davey Richards.....NO ONE is gonna say crap to him if he decides to put on sneakers on and go out there. But if you are Joe Blow Indy.....I'm gonna tell you to get yourself a pair of boots and I wont be booking u till you do. Yes, we look at pics and videos......but we dont invite you back if you dont have the proper gear. [/quote]. To make you look more like a fool you mentioned chikara and pwg A lot of guys in chikara started in the backyard and also they wear "wrestling sneakers" quack included super dragon included, your point is rediculous and wrong, not here trying to start a fight giving my 2 cents I have been around professional wrestling for 19 years I know plenty of vets and young kids that would disagree with you. Quack has wore wrestling shoes since entering wrestling besides when not working as himself
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Mar 8, 2012 1:15:14 GMT -5
CM actually does have a good point here guys.. I still beg to differ. I've never heard of someone not being brought back into a fed because they didn't have boots. I've seen firsthand plenty examples of guys not being brought back to a fed because they had a match that sucked (even though they wore boots and looked professional). Any schmuck can go buy a $100 pair of boots from High Spots and look cool. I stand by the fact that workrate is looked at way more than shoes vs. boots by promoters. I started with wrestling shoes and never had any issues. I switched to boots for about 8 years and I'm back to shoes now. Nobody ever said dick to me when I wore shoes. As far as why guys start out with boots and swtich later on down the road...anyone who was ever a wrestling fans wants to wear boots because well they look awesome. Once you start working and realize how much lighter/quicker you are with shoes tend to go the shoes/kickpad route (especially the smaller guys who really need to be quick to stand out).
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 8, 2012 8:54:41 GMT -5
My point is "rediculous" /point proven CM actually does have a good point here guys.. I still beg to differ. I've never heard of someone not being brought back into a fed because they didn't have boots. I've seen firsthand plenty examples of guys not being brought back to a fed because they had a match that sucked (even though they wore boots and looked professional). Any schmuck can go buy a $100 pair of boots from High Spots and look cool. I stand by the fact that workrate is looked at way more than shoes vs. boots by promoters. I started with wrestling shoes and never had any issues. I switched to boots for about 8 years and I'm back to shoes now. Nobody ever said dick to me when I wore shoes. As far as why guys start out with boots and swtich later on down the road...anyone who was ever a wrestling fans wants to wear boots because well they look awesome. Once you start working and realize how much lighter/quicker you are with shoes tend to go the shoes/kickpad route (especially the smaller guys who really need to be quick to stand out). No one is saying that just cuz you have boots means u will be booked. No one is saying that just cuz u look the part of a pro wrestler means u will continue to be booked. But if u dont look the part....why SHOULD I bring you back? Other examples of things you should NOT do....wear a tshirt in the ring. Yes, there are exceptions. But unless ur gimmick specifically calls for it....its a no, no. Hardy Boys pants/windpants....no no.
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Mar 8, 2012 9:34:53 GMT -5
No one is saying that just cuz you have boots means u will be booked. No one is saying that just cuz u look the part of a pro wrestler means u will continue to be booked. But if u dont look the part....why SHOULD I bring you back? Actually, you said it yourself: The guys I book....I tell them they cant work without having boots. Sounds like if they have boots, you'll book them. If they don't have boots, you're not booking them. Or was I reading that wrong? Also, you should maybe bring a guy back if he connects with the crowd or is a great wrestler (even if they don't look the part). Santino Marella does not look the part (and he wears shoes) but he consistently gets some of the biggest reactions. CM Punk (who also wears shoes) certainly doesn't look the part but he's great on the mic and great in the ring. I agree about investing in having some kick-ass gear and looking professional but not booking somebody because they don't have boots is ridiculous. Most cruiserweights wear shoes with kickpads. If you ever laced up a pair of boots and wrestled a match in them you would know how much of a hassle it is to lace them up and how heavy they are in the ring.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 8, 2012 10:00:30 GMT -5
No one is saying that just cuz you have boots means u will be booked. No one is saying that just cuz u look the part of a pro wrestler means u will continue to be booked. But if u dont look the part....why SHOULD I bring you back? Actually, you said it yourself: The guys I book....I tell them they cant work without having boots. Sounds like if they have boots, you'll book them. If they don't have boots, you're not booking them. Or was I reading that wrong? Also, you should maybe bring a guy back if he connects with the crowd or is a great wrestler (even if they don't look the part). Santino Marella does not look the part (and he wears shoes) but he consistently gets some of the biggest reactions. CM Punk (who also wears shoes) certainly doesn't look the part but he's great on the mic and great in the ring. I agree about investing in having some kick-ass gear and looking professional but not booking somebody because they don't have boots is ridiculous. Most cruiserweights wear shoes with kickpads. If you ever laced up a pair of boots and wrestled a match in them you would know how much of a hassle it is to lace them up and how heavy they are in the ring. My statements are not all encompassing. Just cuz you own boots doesnt mean you get booked. Not owning boots is why you wont get booked. If someone goes out there and somehow wows the crowd....of course I am gonna bring him back even if he doesnt have boots. But in local indy wrestling....its very hard to do that in their first night in a new company. Not impossible, but difficult. Examples of Santino and CM Punk are irrelevant cuz they are not working local indy wrestling. So your saying guys like homicide or the briscoes shouldn't wear basketball shorts? And yes kofi, shelton,punk, Miz and multiple others wear shoes under they're kick pads.you'd have to be a complete intellectually- disabled person not to notice. What does Cide and Briscoes have to do with local indy wrestling? They might get a booking here or there but they are beyond those expectations. You do not goto a "draw" name and tell them to change their gear. The whole reason you book them is to bring additional people who might not otherwise come to your show in. They want to see Homicide do his thing and be Homicide. They dont want to see him wearing a singlet and just wrestle. But yeah....I'm a complete intellectually- disabled person for seeing what CM Punk does to be relevant to local indy wrestling?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 11:08:06 GMT -5
but basically you're saying noone should have booked them while they were local talent because of their gear.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 8, 2012 12:58:46 GMT -5
I hope you're not implying that I'm "some kid" trying to a "internet tough guy"...because you'd be wrong on both assumptions. You just posted that you wished someone would punch me in the face. Who does that?! Immature kids. Its clear that you and Steenkill would argue with me if I told you that water is wet and the sky is blue. So I am done. Feel free and have the last word.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 13:04:20 GMT -5
Oh right, I'm an immature kid because it's highly likely someone will actually hit you for telling them because of what they wear underneath something, that they aren't good enough for whatever promotion you work for, assuming you even work for one at all. I know for a fact if I walked into a locker room at the indy shows I worked for and told someone "You can't work here, you don't have actual wrestling boots." I would probably get knocked out. I could care less if the guy was bare foot, if he can get a crowd going and bring in money, why would I tell him to leave? What's next, he's wearing the wrong brand of underwear under his tights? Give me a break.
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