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Post by comintogetcha on May 1, 2012 20:11:47 GMT -5
Yeah, the news sites NEVER get it right do they, the Bella Twins definitely weren't leaving WWE at the end of April, A-Train definitely didn't come back as Lord Tensai to work a program with John Cena. Sometimes the ignorance here is astounding. Yep, just like they were right about all those releases that were supposed to come after Wrestlemania. So many people were supposed to be released as they were saying. Yep. All two of them. You seem to be confusing the crappy copy and paste sites you guys love to post stuff from with the actual legitimate sources. Find me ONE legitimate source stating that anyone was being released after WM. This was never reported by any credible website, just some bogus copy and paste website. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on May 1, 2012 20:37:25 GMT -5
"DIRTY SHEETZ R NEVAR WRONG! but just the ones that aren't right are."
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Post by comintogetcha on May 1, 2012 20:50:33 GMT -5
"DIRTY SHEETZ R NEVAR WRONG! but just the ones that aren't right are." I don't even know how to respond to this. You know what, it's so idiotic I won't even bother. |
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Post by Weemanv1 on May 1, 2012 21:52:13 GMT -5
Yep, just like they were right about all those releases that were supposed to come after Wrestlemania. So many people were supposed to be released as they were saying. Yep. All two of them. You seem to be confusing the crappy copy and paste sites you guys love to post stuff from with the actual legitimate sources. Find me ONE legitimate source stating that anyone was being released after WM. This was never reported by any credible website, just some bogus copy and paste website. And you seem to be assuming things about me that are wrong. I never, EVER go out of my way to look at news sites. What I find is what I see here and I never assume anything is right. Those sites are making educated guesses. They don't know jack crapabout what goes on behind the scenes. They have some knowledge, yes, but not much more than we do. What about the whole Sting debacle last year? THey're wrong just as much as they're right because they're only guessing. |
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Post by comintogetcha on May 1, 2012 22:07:51 GMT -5
You seem to be confusing the crappy copy and paste sites you guys love to post stuff from with the actual legitimate sources. Find me ONE legitimate source stating that anyone was being released after WM. This was never reported by any credible website, just some bogus copy and paste website. And you seem to be assuming things about me that are wrong. I never, EVER go out of my way to look at news sites. What I find is what I see here and I never assume anything is right. Those sites are making educated guesses. They don't know jack crap about what goes on behind the scenes. They have some knowledge, yes, but not much more than we do. What about the whole Sting debacle last year? THey're wrong just as much as they're right because they're only guessing. No one is making educated guesses. Dave Meltzer at Wrestling Observer and the guys at PWInsider all have legitimate contacts within the business and report NEWS. No one legitimate ever said that roster cuts were coming after Wrestlemania. No one legitimate ever said Sting was coming to WWE. A lot of people assumed he was, and it took off from there, but it was never reported that he was coming. Please, if anyone is taking "educated guesses" than how is it that we knew a month ahead of time that the Bella Twins were leaving? How is it that we knew that A-Train was coming back to WWE to work a program with Cena? How is it we knew that Jericho was coming back, despite the fact that he denied it up and down on Twitter UNTIL THE DAY IT HAPPENED! How is it that we knew that WWE was moving their developmental facilities to a different location, and was planning to make major changes to the entire program? How is it that we knew WWE was inducting Ron Simmons and Yokozuna, MONTHS before it was announced on TV? How is it we knew that Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli were leaving ROH and had signed with WWE? Give me a break, if you don't want to read the news, all the more power to you, but stop perpetuating ignorance. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 22:13:36 GMT -5
And you seem to be assuming things about me that are wrong. I never, EVER go out of my way to look at news sites. What I find is what I see here and I never assume anything is right. Those sites are making educated guesses. They don't know jack crap about what goes on behind the scenes. They have some knowledge, yes, but not much more than we do. What about the whole Sting debacle last year? THey're wrong just as much as they're right because they're only guessing. No one is making educated guesses. Dave Meltzer at Wrestling Observer and the guys at PWInsider all have legitimate contacts within the business and report NEWS. No one legitimate ever said that roster cuts were coming after Wrestlemania. No one legitimate ever said Sting was coming to WWE. A lot of people assumed he was, and it took off from there, but it was never reported that he was coming. Please, if anyone is taking "educated guesses" than how is it that we knew a month ahead of time that the Bella Twins were leaving? How is it that we knew that A-Train was coming back to WWE to work a program with Cena? How is it we knew that Jericho was coming back, despite the fact that he denied it up and down on Twitter UNTIL THE DAY IT HAPPENED! How is it that we knew that WWE was moving their developmental facilities to a different location, and was planning to make major changes to the entire program? How is it that we knew WWE was inducting Ron Simmons and Yokozuna, MONTHS before it was announced on TV? How is it we knew that Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli were leaving ROH and had signed with WWE? Give me a break, if you don't want to read the news, all the more power to you, but stop perpetuating ignorance. The Bellas were scheduled for a signing Your boy Dave Metzler also came out with an article in December that a Jericho return was very unlikely |
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Post by comintogetcha on May 1, 2012 22:16:30 GMT -5
No one is making educated guesses. Dave Meltzer at Wrestling Observer and the guys at PWInsider all have legitimate contacts within the business and report NEWS. No one legitimate ever said that roster cuts were coming after Wrestlemania. No one legitimate ever said Sting was coming to WWE. A lot of people assumed he was, and it took off from there, but it was never reported that he was coming. Please, if anyone is taking "educated guesses" than how is it that we knew a month ahead of time that the Bella Twins were leaving? How is it that we knew that A-Train was coming back to WWE to work a program with Cena? How is it we knew that Jericho was coming back, despite the fact that he denied it up and down on Twitter UNTIL THE DAY IT HAPPENED! How is it that we knew that WWE was moving their developmental facilities to a different location, and was planning to make major changes to the entire program? How is it that we knew WWE was inducting Ron Simmons and Yokozuna, MONTHS before it was announced on TV? How is it we knew that Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli were leaving ROH and had signed with WWE? Give me a break, if you don't want to read the news, all the more power to you, but stop perpetuating ignorance. The Bellas were scheduled for a signing Your boy Dave Metzler also came out with an article in December that a Jericho return was very unlikely Yes, The Bella Twins were scheduled for an autograph signing, but that didn't necessarily indicate that they were leaving WWE or not resigning. It wasn't until it was actually confirmed as such that we found out about it. Jericho and WWE did have a public falling out around that time over the fact that he felt he was intentionally left out of WWE '12 denying him merchandise revenue. Jericho has said as much. The two sides resolved their issues and he came back. What is difficult to understand about that? |
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Post by threehgame on May 1, 2012 22:24:47 GMT -5
Just a work on the entire WWE. People ate up the real tension between Rock/Cena and they will eat up the real tension between Brock/Entire WWE. Welcome to the reality era where the works of the mid to late 90's are now created to recapture the magic from back then.
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Post by Rob on May 1, 2012 22:26:55 GMT -5
That promo left a very bad taste in my mouth. That was easily Cenas worst " overcome the odds " crap he's ever done. He should have ATLEAST been helped out by some ref's, But instead we got a happy go skippy John Cena getting cheap pops by blowing Chicago. Then comes back the next night and no sells the whole beatdown. Thats not "bringing legitimacy back to WWE"
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on May 1, 2012 23:08:01 GMT -5
I don't know if Lesnar really tore the locker room apart in a fit of tears over the ending of Extreme Rules, but I know a bunch of IWC idiots tore their bedrooms in their parents' house apart in a fit of tears over the ending of Extreme Rules.
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Post by wabarrett on May 2, 2012 7:25:11 GMT -5
Credible... Dirtsheets?
Like who exactly? Name me one, and I will be keeping a close eye on every thing they report to see if it's total horse s***.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 8:27:32 GMT -5
I think when News Reports are like a giant game of telephone on a playground..there is indeed some truth to the comments, but the facts can be slightly or largely skewed or misconstrued.
That being said, I'll bet Cena probably thought his arm was indeed hurt and cut a promo thinking he'd be away awhile on the fly. I'm sure the top guys have pre-instructed back up plans in place in the event things like this occur.
Brock probably was indeed pissed off and got loud about it, maybe threw some stuff around the locker room. I highly doubt Cena was intentionally trying to screw up Brock's knee, ruin Brock's storyline or screw anyone. At the same time, while I have my issues with Brock, I doubt he reacted to the extreme described.
The WWE are masters at taking a shred of reality and fabricating a complete storyline from it and/or around it.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 8:31:57 GMT -5
That promo left a very bad taste in my mouth. That was easily Cenas worst " overcome the odds " crap he's ever done. He should have ATLEAST been helped out by some ref's, But instead we got a happy go skippy John Cena getting cheap pops by blowing Chicago. Then comes back the next night and no sells the whole beatdown. Thats not "bringing legitimacy back to WWE" I hear what you are saying and can agree to some extent. I think Brock should have won via some unscrupulous, villainous fashion so that Cena could fight back and win a long, hard, honest battle later as the hero. My thought is that Cena really thought his arm was injured and was giving the crowd something on the fly. Chicago is a wrestling town and he was trying to do something to make sense out of winning the battle, while possibly having to be off tv while nursing an injury, filming Marine 3 etc. Why would he plan to do this if he knew he was coming to Raw the next night for sure? If it were intentional and planned, it would make him look stupid IMHO. I could be completely wrong here..just my thoughts. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on May 2, 2012 8:39:13 GMT -5
Why people believe these dirtsheets is beyond me. Yeah, the news sites NEVER get it right do they, the Bella Twins definitely weren't leaving WWE at the end of April, A-Train definitely didn't come back as Lord Tensai to work a program with John Cena. Sometimes the ignorance here is astounding. I saw no reports until after promos aired that Giant Bernard was coming back as Tensai. Which I could have told you because of the tattoos they showed. Plus him working with Cena was a given. He's a monster heel that can work well, they fight Cena. WWE has a formula for this. |
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Post by comintogetcha on May 2, 2012 9:30:24 GMT -5
Yeah, the news sites NEVER get it right do they, the Bella Twins definitely weren't leaving WWE at the end of April, A-Train definitely didn't come back as Lord Tensai to work a program with John Cena. Sometimes the ignorance here is astounding. I saw no reports until after promos aired that Giant Bernard was coming back as Tensai. Which I could have told you because of the tattoos they showed. Plus him working with Cena was a given. He's a monster heel that can work well, they fight Cena. WWE has a formula for this. Well you didn't look hard enough. The reports were out there at least three weeks prior to the promos airing on television. Matt Bloom even went out of his way to deny the reports on Twitter, but look how that turned out. |
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Post by J12 on May 2, 2012 11:54:00 GMT -5
I don't buy it, honestly. Cena had to be scheduled to cut that promo. I don't think they would have stayed on the air live for Cena to cut an unscripted promo.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 12:07:38 GMT -5
I saw no reports until after promos aired that Giant Bernard was coming back as Tensai. Which I could have told you because of the tattoos they showed. Plus him working with Cena was a given. He's a monster heel that can work well, they fight Cena. WWE has a formula for this. Well you didn't look hard enough. The reports were out there at least three weeks prior to the promos airing on television. Matt Bloom even went out of his way to deny the reports on Twitter, but look how that turned out. He's right, A-Train/Bloom's return was viral a month before it happened and Bloom himself even denied it stating he was all ready under contract in Japan, he loved it, etc. |
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Post by Rated NC-17 on May 2, 2012 12:46:04 GMT -5
You guys can believe this if you want but take it with a grain of salt.....
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Post by Weemanv1 on May 2, 2012 12:47:58 GMT -5
And you seem to be assuming things about me that are wrong. I never, EVER go out of my way to look at news sites. What I find is what I see here and I never assume anything is right. Those sites are making educated guesses. They don't know jack crap about what goes on behind the scenes. They have some knowledge, yes, but not much more than we do. What about the whole Sting debacle last year? THey're wrong just as much as they're right because they're only guessing. No one is making educated guesses. Dave Meltzer at Wrestling Observer and the guys at PWInsider all have legitimate contacts within the business and report NEWS. No one legitimate ever said that roster cuts were coming after Wrestlemania. No one legitimate ever said Sting was coming to WWE. A lot of people assumed he was, and it took off from there, but it was never reported that he was coming. Please, if anyone is taking "educated guesses" than how is it that we knew a month ahead of time that the Bella Twins were leaving? How is it that we knew that A-Train was coming back to WWE to work a program with Cena? How is it we knew that Jericho was coming back, despite the fact that he denied it up and down on Twitter UNTIL THE DAY IT HAPPENED! How is it that we knew that WWE was moving their developmental facilities to a different location, and was planning to make major changes to the entire program? How is it that we knew WWE was inducting Ron Simmons and Yokozuna, MONTHS before it was announced on TV? How is it we knew that Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli were leaving ROH and had signed with WWE? Give me a break, if you don't want to read the news, all the more power to you, but stop perpetuating ignorance. Wait, you call me ignorant when you completely ignore my point? I'm not saying dirstsheets are always wrong. I'm saying they're wrong just as much as they're right. People are right to be skeptical because of this. I'm right to be skeptical because of this. And on the note of Sting, I remember Meltzer reported Sting had signed with the company. He was wrong. Shortly after, he reported that Sting hadn't signed. These guys aren't always right and if you want to play the ignorant card, it's ignorant to think that they are. |
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Post by comintogetcha on May 2, 2012 17:54:27 GMT -5
No one is making educated guesses. Dave Meltzer at Wrestling Observer and the guys at PWInsider all have legitimate contacts within the business and report NEWS. No one legitimate ever said that roster cuts were coming after Wrestlemania. No one legitimate ever said Sting was coming to WWE. A lot of people assumed he was, and it took off from there, but it was never reported that he was coming. Please, if anyone is taking "educated guesses" than how is it that we knew a month ahead of time that the Bella Twins were leaving? How is it that we knew that A-Train was coming back to WWE to work a program with Cena? How is it we knew that Jericho was coming back, despite the fact that he denied it up and down on Twitter UNTIL THE DAY IT HAPPENED! How is it that we knew that WWE was moving their developmental facilities to a different location, and was planning to make major changes to the entire program? How is it that we knew WWE was inducting Ron Simmons and Yokozuna, MONTHS before it was announced on TV? How is it we knew that Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli were leaving ROH and had signed with WWE? Give me a break, if you don't want to read the news, all the more power to you, but stop perpetuating ignorance. Wait, you call me ignorant when you completely ignore my point? I'm not saying dirstsheets are always wrong. I'm saying they're wrong just as much as they're right. People are right to be skeptical because of this. I'm right to be skeptical because of this. And on the note of Sting, I remember Meltzer reported Sting had signed with the company. He was wrong. Shortly after, he reported that Sting hadn't signed. These guys aren't always right and if you want to play the ignorant card, it's ignorant to think that they are. Well you remember wrong, NO ONE ever said Sting had signed with WWE. I've given you half a dozen examples of things they have gotten right, you've given me no examples of things that were not right. |
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