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Post by JC Motors on May 9, 2012 23:00:49 GMT -5
I was wondering Why do so many wrestlers die from heart attacks. For instance Big Bossman, Randy Savage, British Bulldog, Umaga all died from heart attacks.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2012 23:01:26 GMT -5
I Wonder Why You Type Like This
and its mainly related to steroid use
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Post by awesomeallamerican on May 9, 2012 23:02:06 GMT -5
I was wondering Why do so many wrestlers die from heart attacks. For instance Big Bossman, Randy Savage, British Bulldog, Umaga all died from heart attacks. I have to believe that abuse of steroids/performance-enhancing drugs as well as recreational drugs like cocaine are the culprits for the most part. |
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Post by juicewinslow on May 9, 2012 23:09:45 GMT -5
cocaine + steroids + alcohol + painkillers + fighting everyday + traveling everyday + very little sleep....
Your heart/body can only handle that for so long.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on May 9, 2012 23:11:21 GMT -5
I think it's from all the constant strain on their hearts from all the slams and suplexes over the years. Think about it for a second. If you take a hard slam or suplex to the mat, it's basically giving your heart a pretty big jolt. Obviously if you take too many, your heart eventually gives out.
Look at Eddie Guerrero. Prime example there. So many slams and suplexes and frog splashes over the years, combined with everything else he did and his heart just gave out. Dropped dead at 38 years old. That's so sad, I can't even describe to you....
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on May 9, 2012 23:14:31 GMT -5
Wrestlers hearts are put under a lot of strain from all of the damage that the profession and lifestyle puts on their bodies. A lot of it is self inflicted with substances like steroids and abusing prescription drugs and also drugs like cocaine back in the day.
This was just a huge problem for guys back in the 80's and early 90's...the business is different now. It's just a shame it took so many guys, including Eddie Guerrero, dropping dead and Chris Benoit killing his family and himself for WWE to institute a wellness policy that mandated checkups for such simple and detectable things as CONCUSSIONS and HEART DISEASE.
The WWE wellness policy should have gone into effect YEARS earlier and it's an embarrassment that the company took so long.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2012 23:52:00 GMT -5
Drugs.
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Post by jaymieandrogyny on May 10, 2012 1:55:32 GMT -5
All of the above, and has anyone ever considered how insane these wrestlers had to be when in character? Everyone was like that in the 80's and 90's. If you yelled angrily into a microphone until your face was red numerous times a week you'd probably drop dead too.
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Post by Bullgod on May 10, 2012 2:45:18 GMT -5
Bad Luck proberbly plays a big part too..
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Post by STJ on May 10, 2012 2:55:53 GMT -5
Umaga`s cause of death was "acute toxicity due to combined effects of hydrocodone, carisoprodol, and diazepam."
More specifically, it was a lethal combination of painkillers (hydrocodone), muscle relaxers (carisoprodol), and anti-anxiety medication (diazepam).
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Post by Chris Hammers on May 10, 2012 4:25:33 GMT -5
And to be fair, Randy Savage would have had a strong chance of surviving if he wasn't driving at the time.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 4:59:55 GMT -5
as many have said its steroids,drugs and painkillers.
together they do serious damage to the muscle wall surrounding the heart.Painkillers(being taken in the quantity they are taken by these guys)being the most harmful.
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Post by MVH on May 10, 2012 5:24:42 GMT -5
I read somewhere steroids can cause an enlarged heart so that might have been the cause for some cases.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 7:17:36 GMT -5
I read somewhere steroids can cause an enlarged heart so that might have been the cause for some cases. yeah thats another one.my cousin Michael is a surgeon and a huge wrestling mark and he was explaining all of this to me around the time Hawk died. |
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Post by WWE Common Terry on May 10, 2012 7:24:25 GMT -5
Cuz that's what happens when you face the Hart Foundations.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 7:38:25 GMT -5
I've got to think also that stress plays a big deal in it. Isn't that a pretty common contributing factor of heart attacks? Mix that with the drugs and alcohol these guys take not, to mention the wear and tear on your body from wrestling 250 nights a year, and you're just waiting on a disaster to happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 7:48:12 GMT -5
Steroids.
Dynamite Kid said his docter found an enlarged heart in 1991, he hasn't touched them since then and he's been ok for the last 21 years.
Also Alcohol and street drugs.
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Post by JC Motors on May 10, 2012 8:29:11 GMT -5
Cuz that's what happens when you face the Hart Foundations. lol |
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Post by punksnotdead on May 10, 2012 8:44:30 GMT -5
I read somewhere steroids can cause an enlarged heart so that might have been the cause for some cases. Yeah, probably the most relevant cause imo. That and the stress from their work environment. There is historically a link to cocaine users and heart attacks as well, which should be no shock to anyone. Mr. Perfect would have been a very high heart attack risk had he not OD'd imo, as he loved the snow and the juice. The partying, the roids, the stress, all that stuff weighs on your body. I think it's fair to say that the steroids being used in the 80's weren't like they are today where you have pills that are created with side effects taken into consideration with stuff like VAR, HGH, and TREN. These guys were doing test cycles with pretty much little knowledge of the long term impact, so I'm sure there was plenty of abuse going on. The juice can enlarge all your organs, not just your heart. It just so happens that an enlarged heart can kill you in the blink of an eye. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the older guys have serious liver and kidney problems as well. It's a shame no one was really being conscious or accountable of this stuff before guys started dying. I know they cracked down on it in the mid 90s but I don't feel like it was really taken seriously until much later. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on May 10, 2012 13:32:08 GMT -5
It's a shame no one was really being conscious or accountable of this stuff before guys started dying. I know they cracked down on it in the mid 90s but I don't feel like it was really taken seriously until much later. I was reading an X-Pac interview recently, and his take on it is that the wellness policy is a good thing, but it's only going to help the non-addicts, the guys who might take stuff to get by but wouldn't get addicted anyway. He feels that guys like him and Scott Hall would always find ways to beat the tests or get  ed up on something. Addictive personality + rockstar job + money = uh-oh. The New Age Outlaws in their recent shoot interview were saying they think the business has changed, for the most part. The newer generation of guys would play videogames and watch wrestling videos and stuff instead of going out. The Outlaws said they used to mock the likes of Edge and Christian for caring about their matches instead of going out partying. I guess certain guys, like Lance Cade and Umaga, wanted to fall in with the old guys. I think that's another problem in wrestling, too. They have the "respect the veterans" mentality, yet the veterans are usually morons who spent their careers drugged-up and drink-driving from one town to the next. It's insane to put impressionable young guys with idiots who lived reckless lifestyles. The Hardys were babysat by Michael Hayes early in their careers, and look how they turned out. Another thing is the code between the wrestlers. They're not supposed to stooge on each other. If a guy's out of control with his demons, you're not supposed to tell the office because that guy will get demoted/fired/lose money. But if you don't tell the office, that guy could be on the road to death. A lot of people knew Eddie Guerrero was in bad shape for a while before he died, but did nothing about it because they didn't want to seem like stooges. X-Pac actually called Vince McMahon in 1998 and told him Regal was going to die if they didn't do something, and that was a tough decision for him because wrestlers just aren't supposed to tell on each other. Shawn Michaels didn't talk to Triple H for a year or something because Shawn turned up to a TV taping of his mind (there's a fun little story about Shawn that night in Jericho's second book, actually), Hunter told Vince, and Vince cancelled plans for HBK to be involved with WrestleMania X-Seven. |
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