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Post by jfinnomore on May 19, 2012 11:31:46 GMT -5
Its ok to not like him, its even ok to say he's an bunghole....but to say he's not one of the top 5 greatest of all time...if not #1....is just plain ing foolish! Top 5 what though? Top 5 most recognizable? Top 5 in ring?
He wouldn't come close to either.Hogan, Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Cena all claim top 5 most recognizable. And there's a long list of people in front of Flair. There's a huge long list of great wrestlers, and Flair isn't on that list. You couldn't even compare Flair to the likes of Bret Hart, Curt Hennig, Dynamite Kid, Sting, The British Bulldog, Rick Rude or Randy Savage in terms of ring ability. And that's just taking into account the real top guys, not including the guys who were just really good like Kerry Von Erich, Scott Hall, Eddie, Benoit and Yokozuna. The only top 5 list he tops is for being the most over rated of all time. yes, yes he would. even non wrestling fans know who Flair is, hell there is even a character based off of him on a TV show that has nothing to do with wrestling (east bound and down) you're letting your hate for him make you say stupid things. look i loathe Hogan but i'm not foolish enough to say he's not top 2 all time wrestlers.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on May 19, 2012 12:05:02 GMT -5
You're a fool. As much as a huge fan of most of those guys you've mentioned I am, his acomplishments top most of them, he was more charismatic than most of them. Like him or not, Ric Flair is one of the biggest legends of proffessional wrestling. Also as a note to your top 5 recognisable, I would put the Undertaker before Bret Hart. You're entitled to like Flair, just as I'm entitled to hate him. I don't acknowledge his accomplishments as being such, as he didn't earn them, his friends (and himself) gave it to him. Undertaker was never the flagholder for the company, he may be more reckognisable to certain generations but all in all, he's not as reckognisable as bret. The undertaker has pretty much main evented in three generations of wrestling fans. The early 90s, he was there, then he came to massive rise in the attitude era and what's he doing now, still in the headline matches. Taker surpasses Bret as a recognisable wrestler who had a far shorter reign on the top. You do not get the amount of fans that flair has by being terrible. There's a difference in liking someone and having the ability to see someones appeal, and you just seem blind. I don't really like Cena, I can still see why he's on top.
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Post by danmorganbrand on May 19, 2012 16:39:58 GMT -5
No one's seen her wrestle, she might be talented! I don't get why everyone's busting her balls already.Wait......Ric Flair's daughter has BALLS???
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Post by Nivro™ on May 19, 2012 17:52:11 GMT -5
Its ok to not like him, its even ok to say he's an bunghole....but to say he's not one of the top 5 greatest of all time...if not #1....is just plain ing foolish! Top 5 what though? Top 5 most recognizable? Top 5 in ring? He wouldn't come close to either. Hogan, Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Cena all claim top 5 most recognizable. And there's a long list of people in front of Flair. There's a huge long list of great wrestlers, and Flair isn't on that list. You couldn't even compare Flair to the likes of Bret Hart, Curt Hennig, Dynamite Kid, Sting, The British Bulldog, Rick Rude or Randy Savage in terms of ring ability. And that's just taking into account the real top guys, not including the guys who were just really good like Kerry Von Erich, Scott Hall, Eddie, Benoit and Yokozuna. The only top 5 list he tops is for being the most over rated of all time. Im sorry but outside of Wrestling, Bret Hart could walk down a street and if you're not a wrestling fan, 90% of the people wouldnt know who he was. If you're not Canadian or a wrestling fan....or unless you were a fan of that God awful Lonesome Dove spinoff....Nobody knows who Bret Hart is. Flair has been active in the business for 40+ years, ran of political office, and constantly appears in/at sporting events around the Carolina areas. Flair has had such an effect that the South Carolina football team actually comes out to a Ric Flair promo followed by the playing of Also Sprach Zarathustra
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2012 22:39:33 GMT -5
I'm not going to pretend that she's hot just because she's Ric Flair's daughter.
Sorry.
She's not attractive in those photos.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2012 23:22:41 GMT -5
I'm not going to be one of those guys that pass off pretty good looking girls as being completely ugly. She's a good looking gal(I said gal. What am I, 90?) Let the WWE makeup/hair team get a hold of her and she'll be really pretty. Just look at pictures of divas without makeup and they look just like normal everyday girls you would see
Side note, there is no way any dude that knows her dad and bangs her doesn't shout WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! when he's busting one. Lets jsut hope he doesn't give her the knife edge chop during sexy time.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on May 20, 2012 1:14:14 GMT -5
I would just like to say Ric Flair is the most over rated wrestler all time. Boring and redundant. Jealous of those better then him. Embarassing to see him still compete into his 60s because he was an idiot who couldnt manage money and has nothing else to offer life besides wrestling.
that is all.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 6:37:20 GMT -5
Top 5 what though? Top 5 most recognizable? Top 5 in ring? He wouldn't come close to either. Hogan, Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Cena all claim top 5 most recognizable. And there's a long list of people in front of Flair. There's a huge long list of great wrestlers, and Flair isn't on that list. You couldn't even compare Flair to the likes of Bret Hart, Curt Hennig, Dynamite Kid, Sting, The British Bulldog, Rick Rude or Randy Savage in terms of ring ability. And that's just taking into account the real top guys, not including the guys who were just really good like Kerry Von Erich, Scott Hall, Eddie, Benoit and Yokozuna. The only top 5 list he tops is for being the most over rated of all time. Im sorry but outside of Wrestling, Bret Hart could walk down a street and if you're not a wrestling fan, 90% of the people wouldnt know who he was. If you're not Canadian or a wrestling fan....or unless you were a fan of that God awful Lonesome Dove spinoff....Nobody knows who Bret Hart is. Flair has been active in the business for 40+ years, ran of political office, and constantly appears in/at sporting events around the Carolina areas. Flair has had such an effect that the South Carolina football team actually comes out to a Ric Flair promo followed by the playing of Also Sprach Zarathustra Everyone over the age of about 12 or 13 would know who Bret Hart was. He was one of the most recognisable people in the world at one point. He was even on the Simpsons. And the only wrestler to ever appear on it. And he was on it when it was actually good. Only a wrestling fan would know who Ric Flair was.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 8:12:02 GMT -5
lol this dude is a joke. i did a test yesterday. i asked 25 ppl at work if they knew who bret hart was... 3 did. i asked the same ppl if they knew who ric flair was..... 21 did with alot of them yelling wooooooooo. also asked 15 random friends that dont watch wrestling and 14 knew flair and only 4 new bret. flair is one of the most recognized wrestlers. only hogan, macho man and cena are close or more recognized
bret was on the simpsons, well camron has a song called ric flair.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 8:46:31 GMT -5
lol this dude is a joke. i did a test yesterday. i asked 25 ppl at work if they knew who bret hart was... 3 did. i asked the same ppl if they knew who ric flair was..... 21 did with alot of them yelling wooooooooo. also asked 15 random friends that dont watch wrestling and 14 knew flair and only 4 new bret. flair is one of the most recognized wrestlers. only hogan, macho man and cena are close or more recognized bret was on the simpsons, well camron has a song called ric flair . Oh some random guy on a toy forum says that he did a survey yesterday (that's convenient timing!), about Flair and Bret yesterday with no proof. It MUST be true. Well do you know what? I did a survey yesterdat too and a million people said they didn't know what the meaning of winter was.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on May 20, 2012 12:05:47 GMT -5
Suggesting Flair didn't have any charisma is just obsurd though. There's a difference between having opinions and he may be over-rated in your eyes, but you have to conceed that people you don't like have strengths. I am not a fan of Cena, doesn't mean I don't think he has charisma. I think you let your personal opinions shadow over how you critique people. I don't see how anyone could say that he does have any charisma. For example: I've never seen him do many moves other than a kneedrop, figure four and knife edge chop. His mic work is nothing special, he can't even speak, he has a terrible speech impediment. I can't take him seriously as a wrestler because let's face it, how is someone who looks like this: Supposed to be able to believably defeat someone who looks like this in a fight: ... You don't know what charisma is, do you?
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Post by juicewinslow on May 20, 2012 12:12:08 GMT -5
Top 5 what though? Top 5 most recognizable? Top 5 in ring? He wouldn't come close to either. Hogan, Bret Hart, Austin, Rock, Cena all claim top 5 most recognizable. And there's a long list of people in front of Flair. There's a huge long list of great wrestlers, and Flair isn't on that list. You couldn't even compare Flair to the likes of Bret Hart, Curt Hennig, Dynamite Kid, Sting, The British Bulldog, Rick Rude or Randy Savage in terms of ring ability. And that's just taking into account the real top guys, not including the guys who were just really good like Kerry Von Erich, Scott Hall, Eddie, Benoit and Yokozuna. The only top 5 list he tops is for being the most over rated of all time. Im sorry but outside of Wrestling, Bret Hart could walk down a street and if you're not a wrestling fan, 90% of the people wouldnt know who he was. If you're not Canadian or a wrestling fan....or unless you were a fan of that God awful Lonesome Dove spinoff....Nobody knows who Bret Hart is. Flair has been active in the business for 40+ years, ran of political office, and constantly appears in/at sporting events around the Carolina areas. Flair has had such an effect that the South Carolina football team actually comes out to a Ric Flair promo followed by the playing of Also Sprach Zarathustra Here in NC, at the Carolina Hurricanes games... when they score a goal Ric Flair comes on the screen and goes "Woooooooooooooooooooooooooo!" lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 12:16:55 GMT -5
I don't see how anyone could say that he does have any charisma. For example: I've never seen him do many moves other than a kneedrop, figure four and knife edge chop. His mic work is nothing special, he can't even speak, he has a terrible speech impediment. I can't take him seriously as a wrestler because let's face it, how is someone who looks like this: Supposed to be able to believably defeat someone who looks like this in a fight: ... You don't know what charisma is, do you? Let's let big poppa pump explain it to him
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 12:24:56 GMT -5
im interested to see where she will go lol
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Post by Nivro™ on May 20, 2012 13:04:27 GMT -5
Im sorry but outside of Wrestling, Bret Hart could walk down a street and if you're not a wrestling fan, 90% of the people wouldnt know who he was. If you're not Canadian or a wrestling fan....or unless you were a fan of that God awful Lonesome Dove spinoff....Nobody knows who Bret Hart is. Flair has been active in the business for 40+ years, ran of political office, and constantly appears in/at sporting events around the Carolina areas. Flair has had such an effect that the South Carolina football team actually comes out to a Ric Flair promo followed by the playing of Also Sprach Zarathustra Everyone over the age of about 12 or 13 would know who Bret Hart was. He was one of the most recognisable people in the world at one point. He was even on the Simpsons. And the only wrestler to ever appear on it. And he was on it when it was actually good. Only a wrestling fan would know who Ric Flair was. No....Just no. Watch a Carolina Hurricanes game. Gamecocks football games, as mentioned (that I didnt know about) a rapper that has a SONG about Ric Flair. Or the episode where he was on The Cleveland Show and he's also been on the show McEnroe. Starred in a Episode of Baywatch, at the time the most popular show on tv. Maybe we can discuss the Ric Flair lottery tickets, or his role in a none wrestling Video game.....Bret Hart has 1 episode of the Simpsons and Lonesome Dove. Flair is easily more recognizable then Hart.....EASILY!!!
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Post by therenow on May 20, 2012 13:23:26 GMT -5
Ashley vs Brooke. Book it gabe.
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Post by jfinnomore on May 20, 2012 13:31:32 GMT -5
Everyone over the age of about 12 or 13 would know who Bret Hart was. He was one of the most recognisable people in the world at one point. He was even on the Simpsons. And the only wrestler to ever appear on it. And he was on it when it was actually good. Only a wrestling fan would know who Ric Flair was. No....Just no. Watch a Carolina Hurricanes game. Gamecocks football games, as mentioned (that I didnt know about) a rapper that has a SONG about Ric Flair. Or the episode where he was on The Cleveland Show and he's also been on the show McEnroe. Starred in a Episode of Baywatch, at the time the most popular show on tv. Maybe we can discuss the Ric Flair lottery tickets, or his role in a none wrestling Video game.....Bret Hart has 1 episode of the Simpsons and Lonesome Dove. Flair is easily more recognizable then Hart.....EASILY!!! don't forget Will Ferrel's character on Eastbound and Down is a direct parody of Flair.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 13:56:41 GMT -5
Everyone over the age of about 12 or 13 would know who Bret Hart was. He was one of the most recognisable people in the world at one point. He was even on the Simpsons. And the only wrestler to ever appear on it. And he was on it when it was actually good. Only a wrestling fan would know who Ric Flair was. No....Just no. Watch a Carolina Hurricanes game. Gamecocks football games, as mentioned (that I didnt know about) a rapper that has a SONG about Ric Flair. Or the episode where he was on The Cleveland Show and he's also been on the show McEnroe. Starred in a Episode of Baywatch, at the time the most popular show on tv. Maybe we can discuss the Ric Flair lottery tickets, or his role in a none wrestling Video game.....Bret Hart has 1 episode of the Simpsons and Lonesome Dove. Flair is easily more recognizable then Hart.....EASILY!!! That episode of Baywatch had tons of wrestlers in it. And did you seriously just compare The Cleveland Show to The Simpsons during it's peak years?
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Post by ncw on May 20, 2012 14:11:08 GMT -5
Honestly this arguing is just pathetic. Flair is more recognizable than Bret. End of Argument. As for whether Flair is overrated or not? Thats a matter of your opinion. Now it would be interesting to see Flair's daughter in the WWE.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2012 14:58:24 GMT -5
lol this dude is a joke. i did a test yesterday. i asked 25 ppl at work if they knew who bret hart was... 3 did. i asked the same ppl if they knew who ric flair was..... 21 did with alot of them yelling wooooooooo. also asked 15 random friends that dont watch wrestling and 14 knew flair and only 4 new bret. flair is one of the most recognized wrestlers. only hogan, macho man and cena are close or more recognized bret was on the simpsons, well camron has a song called ric flair . Oh some random guy on a toy forum says that he did a survey yesterday (that's convenient timing!), about Flair and Bret yesterday with no proof. It MUST be true. Well do you know what? I did a survey yesterdat too and a million people said they didn't know what the meaning of winter was. lol i have no reason to lie. you seriously have made some of the most assanine comments ive ever heard.
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