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Post by cordless2016 on May 22, 2012 15:59:16 GMT -5
Davey was not the reason it was held in England. It was moved to England because Vince wanted to capitalize on the WWF's foreign popularity. Bret has said that he had to keep asking Vince to put them on last before he finally agreed to it. They wern't even origionally planned to be the main event in England until Vince finally agreed to it.
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Post by koreygunz on May 22, 2012 17:44:34 GMT -5
^ Yes, Davey had nothing to do with it. WWF was hugely popular in the UK. The LOD have talked especially about how over they were in the UK (listen to the pop they got). Thats why they were originally scheduled to win the tag titles at the event if not for Hawks problems.
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Post by OmegaGaijin on May 23, 2012 15:05:31 GMT -5
Everbody has summed up most of what i had to say. I loved his heel run from 95 till he left. Shocked nobody has mentioned the cool ring attires he used to have, he really stood out.
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Post by ellisd on May 23, 2012 23:22:27 GMT -5
Everbody has summed up most of what i had to say. I loved his heel run from 95 till he left. Shocked nobody has mentioned the cool ring attires he used to have, he really stood out. He did have some great ring attires |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 4:24:57 GMT -5
^ Yes, Davey had nothing to do with it. WWF was hugely popular in the UK. The LOD have talked especially about how over they were in the UK (listen to the pop they got). Thats why they were originally scheduled to win the tag titles at the event if not for Hawks problems. yes thats true.The LOD vs Money Inc match was to be for the titles.pity. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 6:40:44 GMT -5
Everbody has summed up most of what i had to say. I loved his heel run from 95 till he left. Shocked nobody has mentioned the cool ring attires he used to have, he really stood out. Yeah I love his ring attires. His tassel/tights look is my favorite, I really liked his Rumble 96, WM12 and 6 Pack attires. |
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Post by Nivro™ on May 24, 2012 22:15:21 GMT -5
I liked him during his first singles run and then his short tenure in WCW the first time. When he came back though I lost interest in him.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on May 25, 2012 3:25:34 GMT -5
I wish they did Hogan vs Warrior at SS 92 that was the time for the rematch
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Post by koreygunz on May 25, 2012 8:10:24 GMT -5
^Hogan was gone from the company by then. He left after Mania that year.
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Post by ellisd on Jun 6, 2012 2:15:12 GMT -5
I enjoyed Bulldog overall, but I feel hes being a bit overrated in this thread. I think Bulldog benefitted from having a good physique, his relationship with the Harts, and solid, but not great, wrestling skills. In any good match that he had, he had an above average opponent working with him. Think about it- what memorable matches did he have that WERENT against Bret Hart or Owen Hart in some capacity? I was thinking about Davey today and thinking about this thread. And I have to admit you were right. Most if not all of Davey's most memorable matches were against above average opponents, such as Bret Hart, Owen Hart, and Shawn Michaels. However...when I think of these superstars, out of all the many great matches that each of them had, the matches with Davey are the first ones to come to my mind, so that in itself has to count for something. So I guess what I'm getting at is that Davey may have been carried to some extent through some of his best matches with these extremely talented wrestlers, but at the same time he brought out the best in each of them as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 4:43:24 GMT -5
I enjoyed Bulldog overall, but I feel hes being a bit overrated in this thread. I think Bulldog benefitted from having a good physique, his relationship with the Harts, and solid, but not great, wrestling skills. In any good match that he had, he had an above average opponent working with him. Think about it- what memorable matches did he have that WERENT against Bret Hart or Owen Hart in some capacity? I was thinking about Davey today and thinking about this thread. And I have to admit you were right. Most if not all of Davey's most memorable matches were against above average opponents, such as Bret Hart, Owen Hart, and Shawn Michaels. However...when I think of these superstars, out of all the many great matches that each of them had, the matches with Davey are the first ones to come to my mind, so that in itself has to count for something. So I guess what I'm getting at is that Davey may have been carried to some extent through some of his best matches with these extremely talented wrestlers, but at the same time he brought out the best in each of them as well. thats a fair point actually. |
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Post by DTP. on Jun 6, 2012 14:30:06 GMT -5
One of my favourite matches to watch is Bulldog vs Shawn Michaels from King of the Ring 1996.
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Post by Beck on Jun 7, 2012 14:23:10 GMT -5
I remember when threw a bin backstage cos he was pissed off about something and it hit Steph.
Pretty odd memory, but for some reason its the first thing i think of when i think about him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 18:01:48 GMT -5
I remember when threw a bin backstage cos he was pissed off about something and it hit Steph. Pretty odd memory, but for some reason its the first thing i think of when i think about him. really?never heard that.its a pity this incident didnt put her off the business completely......... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 21:10:26 GMT -5
I remember when threw a bin backstage cos he was pissed off about something and it hit Steph. Pretty odd memory, but for some reason its the first thing i think of when i think about him. really?never heard that.its a pity this incident didnt put her off the business completely......... It was one of those shows in England. It was an angle. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 1:48:17 GMT -5
ah thats a pity.Im partial to hear about genuine misfortune or setbacks where she is concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 4:30:30 GMT -5
I enjoyed Bulldog overall, but I feel hes being a bit overrated in this thread. I think Bulldog benefitted from having a good physique, his relationship with the Harts, and solid, but not great, wrestling skills. In any good match that he had, he had an above average opponent working with him. Think about it- what memorable matches did he have that WERENT against Bret Hart or Owen Hart in some capacity? I was thinking about Davey today and thinking about this thread. And I have to admit you were right. Most if not all of Davey's most memorable matches were against above average opponents, such as Bret Hart, Owen Hart, and Shawn Michaels. However...when I think of these superstars, out of all the many great matches that each of them had, the matches with Davey are the first ones to come to my mind, so that in itself has to count for something. So I guess what I'm getting at is that Davey may have been carried to some extent through some of his best matches with these extremely talented wrestlers, but at the same time he brought out the best in each of them as well. But that doesn't just apply to the Bulldog, anyone has a better match with any wrestler that is talented. Bret Hart's best matches were with Owen/Bulldog/Hennig because they were all amazing wrestlers. It's obvious that Bret Hart vs Bulldog is going to be better than Bret Hart vs Barry Horrowitz etc. It doesn't mean that Bret was carried. The fact is that Bulldog is one of those guys who could have a good match with nearly anyone. I don't believe The Bulldog was ever carried. |
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jun 8, 2012 7:43:36 GMT -5
I was thinking about Davey today and thinking about this thread. And I have to admit you were right. Most if not all of Davey's most memorable matches were against above average opponents, such as Bret Hart, Owen Hart, and Shawn Michaels. However...when I think of these superstars, out of all the many great matches that each of them had, the matches with Davey are the first ones to come to my mind, so that in itself has to count for something. So I guess what I'm getting at is that Davey may have been carried to some extent through some of his best matches with these extremely talented wrestlers, but at the same time he brought out the best in each of them as well. But that doesn't just apply to the Bulldog, anyone has a better match with any wrestler that is talented. Bret Hart's best matches were with Owen/Bulldog/Hennig because they were all amazing wrestlers. It's obvious that Bret Hart vs Bulldog is going to be better than Bret Hart vs Barry Horrowitz etc. It doesn't mean that Bret was carried. The fact is that Bulldog is one of those guys who could have a good match with nearly anyone. I don't believe The Bulldog was ever carried. Bret carried Davey through their match at Summer Slam 92........Bret even says so in his book. |
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Post by ellisd on Jun 8, 2012 14:34:14 GMT -5
I was thinking about Davey today and thinking about this thread. And I have to admit you were right. Most if not all of Davey's most memorable matches were against above average opponents, such as Bret Hart, Owen Hart, and Shawn Michaels. However...when I think of these superstars, out of all the many great matches that each of them had, the matches with Davey are the first ones to come to my mind, so that in itself has to count for something. So I guess what I'm getting at is that Davey may have been carried to some extent through some of his best matches with these extremely talented wrestlers, but at the same time he brought out the best in each of them as well. But that doesn't just apply to the Bulldog, anyone has a better match with any wrestler that is talented. Bret Hart's best matches were with Owen/Bulldog/Hennig because they were all amazing wrestlers. It's obvious that Bret Hart vs Bulldog is going to be better than Bret Hart vs Barry Horrowitz etc. It doesn't mean that Bret was carried. The fact is that Bulldog is one of those guys who could have a good match with nearly anyone. I don't believe The Bulldog was ever carried. I think you missed my point. There were some that were saying that only memorable matches Bulldog had were against people like Shawn, Owen, and Bret, wrestlers that could have a good match against anybody, thus insinuating that it was mostly them that carried the match. However when I think of Shawn, Bret, and Owen, the matches with Davey are usually the first matches that I think of, meaning that even if he was carried, it couldn't have been all them that made the match memorable, Davey has to get some of the credit there. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 9, 2012 9:05:35 GMT -5
But that doesn't just apply to the Bulldog, anyone has a better match with any wrestler that is talented. Bret Hart's best matches were with Owen/Bulldog/Hennig because they were all amazing wrestlers. It's obvious that Bret Hart vs Bulldog is going to be better than Bret Hart vs Barry Horrowitz etc. It doesn't mean that Bret was carried. The fact is that Bulldog is one of those guys who could have a good match with nearly anyone. I don't believe The Bulldog was ever carried. I think you missed my point. There were some that were saying that only memorable matches Bulldog had were against people like Shawn, Owen, and Bret, wrestlers that could have a good match against anybody, thus insinuating that it was mostly them that carried the match. However when I think of Shawn, Bret, and Owen, the matches with Davey are usually the first matches that I think of, meaning that even if he was carried, it couldn't have been all them that made the match memorable, Davey has to get some of the credit there. I think the reason their matches w/ Bulldog are so memorable because he had a great character. The guy was good in the ring, but its no secret that because of his drug problem, most of the time he didn't even know he was in the ring. Bret has said that for their SS92 match, Davey couldn't barely talk and Bret had to basically talk him through everything. Davey gets credit because he was an above average in ring talent when his head was clear, but he just couldn't carry a match like the other 3 could. |
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