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Post by LtD73 on Jun 6, 2012 3:52:45 GMT -5
Warner Bros. is making some plans towards the long-awaited Justice League feature film as Variety reports that Gangster Squad screenwriter Will Beall has been brought aboard to provide the screenplay.
Details at this point are currently few, but the enormous success of Marvel's The Avengers no doubt helped pave the way for getting the Distinguished Competition's superhero ensemble a shot at the silver screen.
What remains to be seen is whether or not Warner's film will use any of their standalone superhero projects as jumping off points, building a cohesive cinematic universe the way that Marvel has. It's been hinted that Christopher Nolan's upcoming The Dark Knight Rises will feature a definitive ending for the current version of the big screen Batman character, though Christian Bale has recently suggested that he's not entirely against the notion of further adventures in the cape and cowl.
Next summer's Man of Steel, however, marks a more likely contender to launch an ongoing big screen universe and it's entirely possible that, despite a disappointing box office, last summer's take on Green Lantern couldn't be brought back.
The other possibility is that Warner Bros. might start from scratch, as was the plan several years ago when George Miller was attached to direct a motion-capture Justice League feature.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Jun 6, 2012 5:23:05 GMT -5
Hasn't it always been assumed that this would be the case, that the new Superman and Batman movies (in 2014/15) would be the launching point for a JL movie? I personally think it needs to be done, I think what Marvel did was amazing, in the space that it took for ONE Batman movie to be made, Marvel got their ENTIRE Avengers universe done, and all were great films.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 5:44:43 GMT -5
honestly....I have ZERO confidence in WB/DC to make this work.its so unlikely I will believe it when Im sitting in the cinema watching it.why you ask? 1)DCs internal structure is a nightmare for this type of project.a series of Departments feuding over characters use(yes FEUDING)Bruce Timm had to deal with this nightmare regularly when he ran JLU and so did the producers of The Batman & Smallville.Timm wasnt allowed use Aquaman at ALL during JLU season 4 because he MIGHT get his own show on the CW,which caused massive rewrites......confused?I know I was,Timm too.The Batman was barred from using Ras Al Ghul and Scarecrow because of Batman Begins?you would think the more exposure the better?apparently not.and what about all the times Smallville asked to use Bruce Wayne,Hal Jordan or Princess Diana in cameos or as guest stars?nope vetoed by the people that controlled each property with WB/DCs media division.all this dealt with TV can you imagine what would happen over a movie??? 2)DC/WB clearly have no interest in WW,Aquaman,MM and very little it seems in Flash.see the aborted(and crap)TV pilots for the level of interest in WW and Aquaman.Whedon himslef said that they were impossible to reason with concerning a WW movie.we should also note the "effort" that was put into the WW and Aquaman pilots.......WB have their own TV channel for sake and they STILL couldnt get behind these 2. 3)they actually thought that sack of shiite Miller pitched them a few years back was a good idea....that shook any faith I had in them to pull this off.in fact that news shook me to the core of my person.deeply. 4)GL would have been the perfect jumping on point for this project(with Waller as the Fury type)and many have said it was meant to be but WB scratched it last minute.they have also said they wont follow Marvel Studios(brilliant)formula.why?who can say...it makes no sense to anyone except them.if it gives you a billion $$ top 5 grossing movie who gives one chocolate who you have copied? 5)once it isnt Batman they dont seem inclined to care.even Superman doesnt do it for them really.Superman Returns had a great opening weekend and made good profit but it was viewed as a dissapointment by the suits.and I tell ya this MOS better have an epic Box office haul too because if it doesnt we will see no more from him.even Nolan wont be able to save Supes if it doesnt match WBs very unrealistic expectations.I mean their next big movie project after MOS seems to be a Batman reboot.... 6)The Dark Knight has given WB furiously unrealistic expectations concerning their properties.they need to realise(the way everyone else does)that TDK had TONS going for it aside from Nolans undisputable brilliance.heres hoping DKR doesnt dissapoint them.that could have serious reprecussions........ 7)WB will not take the risk that MS took.they went ahead with all their movies and gambled that none would bomb en route to The Avengers...... 8)The Flash.one of DCs most recognisable characters.....where is his movie?languishing in development hell because GL didnt have a 70 mill + opening weekend.all brakes were put on Flash development when WB seen GLs numbers.if Marvel had done this after Nortons Hulk(which was profitable BTW) there would have been no Avengers. I could continue but I wont.its too devastating to me as a DC fan to keep listing their INCREDIBLE handicap at getting their guys on the big screen despite the massive advantage they have. I have always been a 50/50 guy concering my love for DC/Marvel but theres no doubt Marvel Studios has a better handle on their guys and understanding how to get them onscreen via director choice.
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Post by King Silva on Jun 6, 2012 7:18:49 GMT -5
It figures with the success of The Avengers.
They should not expect that much though imo because I feel that Marvel's characters are just better and they really did a good job establishing them all a lot or at least a little bit in movies before the one where they all teamed up.
I didn't even know all of DC's drama however after reading JokerFC's post it doesn't seem good at all!
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 6, 2012 10:04:52 GMT -5
I have to be honest, feels like a disaster waiting to happen. Batman and Superman are like oil and water. The dynamic and the dialogue is so intricate that if you don't have the right actors, or the perfect script, it just isn't going to work. Probably why Loeb is the only guy to ever really get modern day Batman to work with Superman and have it be synergistic in comics. Forget about all the other characters, GL, MM, Arthur, WW, or whatever collection of the JLA they want to gather up, if they can't get Batman and Superman right, they are totally ed. I enjoyed GL. I know there are plenty of people who didn't but it made more than 100m domestically. With world wide and the DVD release they definitely made money on it even though the production budget was high. Iron Man caught lightning in a bottle, but that can't be the standard because it's unrealistic for B characters imo. Avengers is completely out of the realm of possibility so they need to let that go. I would have liked to see GL perform more like Thor, but we still need movies like Flash and Green Arrow imo so that people get familiar with the DC Universe. I would comfortably say, that after Batman and Superman, Green Lantern and Flash are DC's most recognizable characters. Then comes Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, and then everyone else. Hell, Batman and Superman's rogue galleries are probably more popular than 85% of the DC roster. To me DC needs to concentrate on it's Vertigo properties and do a Sandman movie, Swamp Thing, or Preacher. Starman could work too if done correctly. But I think DC needs to position itself as the adult comic book film company. Batman is gritty and edgy, The Man of Steel seems to have gone down the same road, and I just think if Avengers is going to be family fun comic book entertainment that DC needs to be badass comic book entertainment. Instead of trying to copy what Marvel has done, why not set yourself apart, in a good way. Flash and especially Green Arrow can be done with grit, so I would love to see them do it. Make it like Batman where I want to see it 6 times, thus making up for Little Jimmy. I know, it's a cheap plug for a Sandman movie, but still, I see DC and WB as in competition with Fox/Sony more than I do Marvel/Disney.
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Post by The Hitman on Jun 6, 2012 12:30:36 GMT -5
I cant see how they can incorporate all the 3 JL Movies already made into 1. The Avengers worked because each seemed to play off each other. Green Lantern and The Dark Knight are 2 completely different styles. Snyder doing makes me imagine Superman will also be vastly different. I would like to see Bale, Reynolds, and Cavali (spelling?) reprise the roles.
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Jun 6, 2012 12:32:22 GMT -5
Would anyone really go see The Flash movie?
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 6, 2012 12:52:54 GMT -5
Have Nolan direct it.
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Post by Suckasays on Jun 6, 2012 13:30:54 GMT -5
He wouldn't work for Justice League in my opinion. The "realism" aspect he likes to portray just wouldn't cut it for a movie as such. It's hard to say how this would turn out. They'll definitely have to go through with the Batman relaunch. It's honestly all going to depend on how this Superman redo turns outs to be honest.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 6, 2012 14:00:00 GMT -5
He wouldn't work for Justice League in my opinion. The "realism" aspect he likes to portray just wouldn't cut it for a movie as such. It's hard to say how this would turn out. They'll definitely have to go through with the Batman relaunch. It's honestly all going to depend on how this Superman redo turns outs to be honest. I hear ya. That last Superman movie. Ugh.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 6, 2012 16:39:23 GMT -5
Would anyone really go see The Flash movie? Prior to 2008, I would say that Flash was just as popular a character as Iron Man, if not more popular. Additionally, Flash has an awesome Rogue's Gallery to work with to make for a series of great films. Like everything, it just has to be done correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 16:48:14 GMT -5
A Justice League movie sounds absolutely terrible. I really hope plans fall through.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 17:27:07 GMT -5
Would anyone really go see The Flash movie? I would.I think he is excellent subject matter for a movie TBH.
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Post by HardyHeft on Jun 7, 2012 9:01:28 GMT -5
it was just a matter of time...... im all for it.....
Im a big fan of BitMan and Supes
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 7, 2012 9:02:20 GMT -5
Even though this really doesn't hold much bearing on the Avengers movie and possible Justice League movie, I think the main advantages that Marvel have always had over DC were that Marvel's heroes operate in the real world (not made up cities), and most of their major heroes were created by the same guy around the same time. DC's major heroes were created in the Golden Age of comics (the 1920s-50s) and were always larger than life superhumans. Marvels major players, with the exception of Captain America, were all from the Silver Age (1960s-late 80s I guess) and were created, mostly by Stan Lee, to have more of a human element to them.
Similarly, Marvel has been years ahead of DC movie-wise, especially after creating Marvel Studios. Since Blade came out in 1998, Marvel has made more movies of a more diverse set of characters than DC has since Superman came out in 1978. The results have been mixed on both sides, but at least Marvel has attempted X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil, the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Hulk, and Captain America. DC, for the most part, has stuck to the Superman and Batman franchise (including the pitiful Supergirl, Steel, and Catwoman movies), then mostly movies based on their lesser-known properties (Watchmen, Red, V for Vendetta, Constantine), only recently attempting Green Lantern.
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Post by JTG on Jun 7, 2012 9:32:05 GMT -5
Great post JokerFC.
WB does seem a bit backwards when it comes to the DC properties. I enjoyed Green Lantern, but I see the flaws within the film. While Superman Returns was a personal disappointment to myself, the way WB viewed the box office return for that movie is almost unreal. They do have insane expectations. WB simply struck gold with Nolan's Batman franchise.
With that said, I don't feel like a lot of the creative failures (in films) would resonate with the suits at Warners. I believe that overall a movie like Green Lantern failed because of bad direction and somewhat cheesy special effects. Not to mention the story could have offered a lot more, however they tried to balance the Oa/Earth scenes within an almost 2 hour movie and it really didn't work.
I believe that when dealing with a DC property, the director and writer almost need to have a sit down chat and really flesh out what it is they want to get across in the film. Chris Nolan is just as invested in the story as he is with his directing duties. However this becomes almost crucial in my opinion when dealing with more outlandish characters such as Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, or Flash. These movies could definitely work, however they need a solid writing/directing team behind it in order for it to happen. That is why I have complete faith in Man of Steel. Zack Snyder has such a keen eye for comic book movies and his style will work perfectly for Superman. Not to mention David Goyer and Christopher Nolan were involved with the creation of the story. This is a solid team and that is what WB and DC needs to make happen when they put out a tentpole film.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jun 7, 2012 11:48:50 GMT -5
If it happens I'll give it a chance, but I am still apprehensive about it after Green Lantern. I didn't hate it as much as some people did, but it definitely wasn't what it should have been in any way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 14:21:30 GMT -5
thanks man unfortunately its all true. now onto the Man of Steel.I am so heavily rooting for this one but quite honestly it doesnt matter how well its received WB will be looking at the receipts.and if they dont match up to what they envision? I am terrified all DC properties will get the express ticket to "development hell" excpet Batman of course.he will undoubtedly get a reboot.....although worringly I have heard WB havent ruled out continuing in Nolans style/universe without him.....that would be a mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 16:25:54 GMT -5
thanks man unfortunately its all true. now onto the Man of Steel.I am so heavily rooting for this one but quite honestly it doesnt matter how well its received WB will be looking at the receipts.and if they dont match up to what they envision? I am terrified all DC properties will get the express ticket to "development hell" excpet Batman of course.he will undoubtedly get a reboot.....although worringly I have heard WB havent ruled out continuing in Nolans style/universe without him.....that would be a mistake. I think Man of Steel will do fine. Zack Snyder is one of my favorite directors, so I may be a little biased, but I think he'll make Superman much more appealing. Also, Nolan is producing, so I'm sure he'll have some say in the film. All things are looking up for the movie, it's just a matter of how well the film does at the box office. And I completely agree that continuing Nolan's Batman without him would be a HUGE mistake. I'm sure the third movie was tailor made to be the end, so I doubt WB could find a way to continue it. We'll most likely see a reboot in a few years. If I had it my way, it would be awhile, but with Hollywood's obsession with money, it'll be way earlier than that.
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Post by Word™ on Jun 7, 2012 17:12:20 GMT -5
Justice League movie will not happen.
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