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Post by Dan on Jun 8, 2012 4:50:40 GMT -5
Either way I think they dropped the ball with him already. Having him fight in MMA Gear and losing to Cena in his first Match back was a poor idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2012 4:41:25 GMT -5
Wait... what the heck is wrong with wfigs?
One minute it's "I can't wait to see Lesnar back" next it's "I wish he'd stay away". When did this become smark central?
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Post by Mr.GT on Jun 9, 2012 15:37:09 GMT -5
Wait... what the heck is wrong with wfigs? One minute it's "I can't wait to see Lesnar back" next it's "I wish he'd stay away". When did this become smark central? .....Are you new to the WWE board?
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Post by scoobypat on Jun 9, 2012 17:08:41 GMT -5
lol i cant believe anyone is surprised by all this. Triple H's promo on Brock a few weeks ago must have been a shoot, because it was sooooo true and real. When the WWE gave Brock the world...pushed him to the moon and beyond, put him OVER your beloved Rock for the title, he gave it all up because he didn't like to travelthen he goes to UFC and ends up having a few good fights but getting sick and unable to compete so he comes back to the WWE looking for a big payday, expecting them to bend over backwards for him gets booked in an angle with Cena (who he obviously is jealous of because Brock could have been that huge) and is booked to lose now he's pissed at the company, like it's their fault he only signed for "limited dates" and is notorious for being an bunghole. I thought it was a shoot too, just from the look on brocks face..he looked like he was about to legit cry cause Triple H was ripping him a new a**hole with everything he was saying This isn't really fair, the guy had major pain killer dependency issues, he was essentially a drug addict and supplemented it with alcohol to boot. I don't blame Lesnar for leaving the WWE because the WWE was somewhat killing him and if he hadn't left to chase some silly dream the guy might be dead today. I don't mind Lesnar's motives in the least, it's a business, he understands that. But I do want to call a spade a spade, that's why I took exception to someone saying it's no different than SCSA and the Rock. Those two look at wrestling as something they love that happens to have a profitable return, Lesnar simply see's dollar signs. Again I couldn't give less of a crapabout if so-and-so "loves" wrestling as long as they're productive and entertaining. Love of the business is irrelevant, smarks just hate this because it's yet another perceived sign of disrespect to their beloved hobby.
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Post by orton1994 on Jun 9, 2012 17:37:47 GMT -5
I thought it was a shoot too, just from the look on brocks face..he looked like he was about to legit cry cause Triple H was ripping him a new a**hole with everything he was saying This isn't really fair, the guy had major pain killer dependency issues, he was essentially a drug addict and supplemented it with alcohol to boot. I don't blame Lesnar for leaving the WWE because the WWE was somewhat killing him and if he hadn't left to chase some silly dream the guy might be dead today. I don't mind Lesnar's motives in the least, it's a business, he understands that. But I do want to call a spade a spade, that's why I took exception to someone saying it's no different than SCSA and the Rock. Those two look at wrestling as something they love that happens to have a profitable return, Lesnar simply see's dollar signs. Again I couldn't give less of a crap about if so-and-so "loves" wrestling as long as they're productive and entertaining. Love of the business is irrelevant, smarks just hate this because it's yet another perceived sign of disrespect to their beloved hobby.
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Post by CSUMB84 on Jun 10, 2012 1:29:05 GMT -5
I've done my best to stay silent on this topic but I've got to channel my inner Stephen A. Smith.....
Let me preface by saying that Lesnar is a freak of nature and godly gifted with unbelievable athleticism.
That being said, it doesn't change the fact that this dude is a flat out quitter and a hypocrite. I will explain both.
Let's go all the way back to the interview he did in Sports Illustrated for Kids when he was still at the University of Minnesota and said in the article in a pull quote with his picture that "professional wrestlers give amateur wrestlers a bad name, are not real athletes and would never associate himself with it."
A couple years later, who debuts in the WWE as "The Next Big Thing"? You guessed it, the same guy who slammed pro wrestling in the SI for Kids article.
So WWE skyrockets Lesnar to the Moon by having him run rough shot over all their top guys at the time, including Hulk Hogan via submission and The Rock at Summerslam for the WWE Championship.
{I do find it funny that Lesnar is still upset over Austin not wanting to hot-shot the money match on Raw yet has acted in a similar manner in taking his ball and going home when things don't go his way}.
So Lesnar is THE MAN in WWE from August 2002 - Fall/Winter 2003 to be fair. Then in 2004, reports start coming from Metzler that Lesnar is unhappy with the schedule, bought his own plane for $400,000 to accommodate his workouts, etc.
Then the shocker comes... 5 days before Wrestlemania XX, Lesnar gets up in front of the WWE Locker Room and announces he his quitting to pursue a life long dream to play in the NFL effective once WM XX is done.
Really? You never once mentioned that playing in the NFL was a childhood dream in any of the articles or interviews you did except for the SI piece where the Minnesota Golden Gophers coach was trying to woo you over to play defensive line for the Golden Gophers but you said you wanted to concentrate on the 2000 Olympic Qualifiers.
So Lesnar goes to Vikings camp and impresses the Vikings enough that they wanted him to go over to NFL Europe and gain experience so he could return to the Vikings with a legit shot of making the team. But in typical Brock Lesnar fashion, when things didn't go his way, he quit.
You can't leave out this part... Lesnar signed that no compete clause when he quit WWE. When he finished his cup of coffee with the NFL, he had the gall and audacity to say that "WWE was preventing him from making a living?" Newsflash Lesnar, no one told you or forced you to sign that 10 year no compete clause.
Then Lesnar spends time in Japan and due to "visa issues" he is stripped of the IWGP championship and then officially loses the belt to Kurt Angle almost one year to the date of being stripped of the title.
Lesnar then decides to venture into MMA and lets be honest... Lesnar only got his shot in MMA because of his WWE fame, which he VEHEMENTLY wants no association with as he was now "Brock Lesnar the MMA fighter" {but had no problem picking up a paycheck from WWE for appearing in WWE 12 the video game}.
No doubt Lesnar made the UFC millions in his brief time but to say he his a Hall of Famer is reaching a lot. I mean, if you sit back and look at who he beat, it's not really that impressive. He beat a post-motorcycle accident Frank Mir; an aging Randy Couture; Heath Herring {who retired after the Lesnar fight and was 2-2- in his last 4 fights going into Lesnar fight} and Shane Carwin, who kicked Lesnar's rear that first round and gassed himself out.
We all know Lesnar had bouts with diverticulitis but has it ever been said what caused it? If it was announced, I apologize for not hearing it but would it surprise anyone if steroid use was the cause of it? I mean Lesnar had to maintain a jacked physique for WWE and if you watch the countdown to UFC100 show, Lesnar's face is beyond puffy {I was actually in shock how puffy it was}. And don't forget the infamous ESPN interview where he stormed off when asked about steroids {where as John Cena answered CNN's questions directly}.
Lesnar comes back from his illness and you can tell he's not the same fighter anymore. Maybe he knew Velasquez and Overeem would target his abdomen area but at the same time, Lesnar did not have that "killer" mentality look in his eyes he did his previous fights. It's almost like he mentally checked out of those last two fights.
Then Lesnar decides to come back to the same WWE company he has thrashed/bashed/crushed in the media for 8 years, gets a PPV main event match against Cena, doesn't like the fact that Cena did the promo at the end of the match and now has a meeting with Dana White behind the back of Vince McMahon to possibly go back to UFC?
Seriously, will this dude ever grow up and be a man of his word? In the infamous words of Gorilla Monsoon, "Highly Unlikely."
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Post by Richikane on Jun 10, 2012 5:31:43 GMT -5
He's in the alumni section on WWE.com, I thought that was weird since he is current. But Brock annoys me, I'd rather see him back in UFC, since I don't watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2012 7:30:05 GMT -5
He is a douche, it was exciting at first but know I just don't care anymore.
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Jun 10, 2012 7:44:05 GMT -5
It's just not gonna be exciting AT ALL knowing that as soon as he comes back, he'll be gone till probably Wrestlemania. That is if he doesn't take his ball and go home again.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Jun 10, 2012 7:57:53 GMT -5
True or False... I don't care if he makes Warrior look like Regal backstage. I always loved Lesnar in WWE and I hope to see as much of him as possible. I mean. It's not like they don't need the likes of him or Rocky right now. Other than Punk and Bryan. I really find the shows unbearable at moments. It added an air of nostalgia and excitement from two people who STILL haven't passed their prime.
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Post by orton1994 on Jun 10, 2012 8:10:31 GMT -5
I don't know where to ask but where did Juice go!?
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Jun 10, 2012 8:39:57 GMT -5
I don't know where to ask but where did Juice go!? That's been confusing me too! I log in this morning and see he's gone and a bunch of banners telling him to come back /threadjack
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jun 10, 2012 9:27:34 GMT -5
I don't know where to ask but where did Juice go!? That's been confusing me too! I log in this morning and see he's gone and a bunch of banners telling him to come back /threadjack Check the lounge, he left. On this subject, I did enjoy lesnar yes but if he only shows up now and then it's pretty stupid and wish he didn't come back. When I heard he was coming back I thought we would see him more then what we have so far.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 10, 2012 10:38:54 GMT -5
Wow everybody was begging for him to return and now that some BS internet reports come in bashing him everybody hates him. Bottom line is that WWE and pro wrestling is not his life. This is a business, and Vince McMahon has screwed over so many people that its good to see someone like Lesnar stand up to him and not let him control him.
The fact of the matter is that Lesnar drwas interest from people. The guy gave me more reason to watch Raw when he returned than I had in the last few years. I enjoy seeing him in whatever he does and it'll be fun to see him when he returns.
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Post by threehgame on Jun 10, 2012 11:01:28 GMT -5
I don't know where to ask but where did Juice go!? He tried to stir up some crap and turned into a baby when someone trolled him. Said he was going to lurk meaning he is going to create a series of new accounts to spam the forum and anyone he felt wronged him. Just another stupid WF moment.
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Post by B-Radimus Prime on Jun 10, 2012 11:38:26 GMT -5
I for one, never wanted Lesnar back. I can't say whether he loves or hates the wrestling business because I am, unfortunately, not a mind reader.
I do think it's ridiculous that WWE puts so much money into someone who is only "part time" because they can't be bothered to put more effort into the wrestlers that are there EVERY day to make superstars out of them.
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Post by Mofoin' Mizfit on Jun 10, 2012 11:59:24 GMT -5
I like Brock, but I wish he could just be a regular superstar and actually work every Raw in addition to the Pay-Per-Views. I hate how he shows up, talks, has a match, and then he's gone for 2 months.
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