I won't see it. I think it's totally ridiculous that they are remaking a movie this soon. Hopefully this will go the way of dvd a month. Raimi's Spider-man was the best. This just looks like a cheap knock off.
its far from it.it does the origin(IMO) better than Raimis first Spidey flick which I love BTW.
I won't see it. I think it's totally ridiculous that they are remaking a movie this soon. Hopefully this will go the way of dvd a month. Raimi's Spider-man was the best. This just looks like a cheap knock off.
Sorry but you are nuts. It blows Raimi's out of the water.
Post by Jack Specific on Jul 8, 2012 12:02:39 GMT -5
Saw it last night. Me and my wife both said it was not as good as Rami's version. Not that it was bad, but something about it was missing. I can't really pinpoint it exactly. To me it was just decent.
For me this film lost a lot of impact because they chose to do the origin story all over again. I admit they did the origin better than the last trilogy but I'm at a point where I don't need to see this type of stuff especially with well established characters. I'll look forward to the sequel but I have no interest in revisiting this film ever again.
i saw it on friday, and thought it was pretty good. some of the city scenes like where he's moving between buildings were really rad. the fights were also sweet. i also thought the garfield guy did a great job, and i can't wait to see where the series goes. i didn't like the first one in the previous series as much as i liked this one, so it's a win!
I loved Raimi's first 2 films. I am even more tolerable than part 3 than most people are. But I will say this, the new one is better than any of the three in my opinion. Yeah, at first you feel like you're treading on familiar territory, but to be honest, I felt the same during Batman Begins in a few small instances. I commend them for a job well done and I honestly think it'll only get better in the sequel.
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Walked in with small expectations, and walked out in love. The Movie was pretty awesome. Garfield did a great job as did Emma Stone. I fully expect myself to see it again, and cannot wait till the sequel. The only thing I'm confused about is why half of what was in the trailers, isn't in the movie. I question why such large changes were made to the plot.
Read the article I posted here, it tries to explain a lot of that.
I didn't mean that as a negative, I knew beforehand that sequels had been signed, and I'm kind of glad they saved the payoff for the search for uncle ben's killer for later.
But, I just read an interesting article today, and apparently the Ratha character's story had a lot more in the original cut of the film that got taken out.
I won't see it. I think it's totally ridiculous that they are remaking a movie this soon. Hopefully this will go the way of dvd a month. Raimi's Spider-man was the best. This just looks like a cheap knock off.
How can you make that assumption if you're not even going to watch it? At least give it a chance before you trash it.
Saw tonight, was going to wait for it to come out on DVD originally but I had a change of heart. Loved it, way better then the other movies IMO. Garfield definately played Peter Parker better then Tobey did.
I just got back from seeing it.....I cant say it was better or worse than Tobey/Raimi. It was just different. But Spideys animations were much much better and Honestly to me, this movie fits more in the current Marvel Universe than the previous series. It just looks and fits more. I honestly think this film just suffers from the much too quick reboot....cause the previous series had no conclusion, no absolution and it seems that there was much more to be shown and told.
So far the post with the same feelings as me. I had high expectation and it fell a little short. It's tough for me to really get into Spider-Man after how badly Spider-Man 3 sucked, and the re-emergence of Batman. The first Spider-Man movie was one of my favorite movies growing up and given the situation of the country just felt like a true hero and morale booster. Not to mention all of the pop culture and product tie ins, and of course the epic soundtrack. All of which this movie lacked, and essentially Spider-Man has been dethroned as everyone's favorite super hero now that Batman exists... thus eliminating that feeling that you were watching/a part of something special and historic.
I think that the acting, character choice, and setting of the story was far superior. Not to mention, it was relaxing not having the "Peter has no parents, is poor, has no friends, and is a loser" shoved down our throats like in the Raimi franchise. I think that they did an almost perfect job of personifying what most people go through as teens in the respect that sometimes they are at odds with their parents and argumentative, while others they love them to death. The relationship with Gwen was far more real and less in your face. While Raimi's franchise tells us from the first line of the original that it's "about a girl" this one had the love story as a side plot. I also absolutely love how they are taking the direction of this series to be "What happened with Peter's parents" rather than "he has to be Spider-Man because he has the responsibility to be".
I felt that the movie lacked some key components of Spider-Man such as the Daily Bugle, how much Peter likes photography/science, that this takes place in New York, and the constant struggle that Peter endures to juggle family, school, friends, and being Spider-Man. I never get the sense that he was really saving the city, it just seemed like he was taking care of and protecting the ones he loved.
I also didn't like how well connected parts of story were, it seemed too simple. For instance, Gwen Stacy is Dr. Connors lap assistant and her father is the Captain of the Police and the main guy after Spider-Man. It made the scope of the story too small. If I could best explain this, it's like how in Batman Begins....Batman is fighting to take back Gotham...yet he has minimal interaction with normal citizens. Where as is this is corrected in The Dark Knight when you see how Batman saves the lives of innocent citizens.
I thought the action and fight scenes were a big upgrade over that slow-mo Raimi stuff. The fighting was far more realistic, and I liked how he was not invincible (he constantly is bruised/cut, and he gets shot and can barely move).
While I liked the storyline involving Dr. Connor, and in theory liked the villain of the Lizard, I did not like the look of the Lizard. Wayyyyyy too CGI. They did such a good job making this Spider-Man universe more realistic and less cartoony, then they made it seem like Godzilla/Jurassic Park-esq.
I could spend hours nit-picking and telling you what was great, but overall it was enjoyable. I'd give it a C+/B-. It's clear that this remake came too soon, especially after how terrific Avengers was and right on the cusp of what will probably be the greatest super hero movie ever, if not one of the greatest films ever made (TDKR).
I thoght the character of Peter Parker/Spidey was better in this one. More wise cracks and a high schooler-ish attitude. I think Garfield was more believable than Tobey as Spider Man because he pulled the high school character off better. I also thought they pulled off the idea of the web shooters well.
However, the story seemed to be the same as the first Spider-Man movie, even down to the biological serums. Just replace Goblin with Lizard, soldier serum with reptile serum, and the military with Oscorp and you have the same basic plotline. The movie was OK for what it was, but I found myself bored at times like Id seen all this before. I think a second movie with a new take on Norman Osbourne/Goblin could be better though, especially if we see the Death of Gwen Stacy.
Definitely agree with this too. It was just more of the same
It really was great. I loved when Flash Thompson had that spidey shirt on. I loved the story, the scenery and the digital effects and the music was awesome !
I actually really enjoyed this film a lot, was excited since it came out to see it but not as much as I usually am. It did surpass my expectations for it but it wasn't perfect. I think I prefer the overall film and style to Raimis but Raimis had more going on where as ASM seemed a bit slow at times for me. I felt this one was better in giving a backstory and building to Spider Parker with a good part of the film being only Peter rather than going straight to Petey being Spider-Man. I liked the darker tone but it wasnt quite Dark Knight which was good as SM is more of a colourful superhero than Bats is so they got that near enough spot on. It was also good to see them have a story about his parents, Raimi seemed to just ignore it all together which I felt was wrong. It was as if a teen living with his Aunt and Uncle was normal and nothing out of the ordinary. Was nice to see them focus on high school as well as this is where Pete really is for a lot of being Spider-Man and Raimi cocked up for me in taking Pete out of that environment. It adds to certain storylines early on and helps Peter develop into Spider-Man whilst having this busy life of lessons and classmates (who dont like him). Flash being Peters friend in the end was a little annoying though as a big part of Peter being Spider-Man was flash being the biggest fan Spidey and hating Peter. The one thing I will say bout the story and pacing was it was a bit slow at times and some of the love scenes felt like the could be cut down. Captain Staceys character and death should have also had more screen time and I felt it would have been a bit more powerful if Gwen didnt know Pete was Spider-Man but Cap. S did. Also though Gwen should have been like MJ in Ultimate Spider-Man to Pete in which they where already friends inzstead of the nerd of the school getting the hot chick who apparently didnt even know who he was.
The cast was great, watching back the Raimi ones the cast wasnt really good for Spider-Man beside James Franco and JJ (only downside of ASM, no JJ). The only one I felt was a little wrong for this was Aunt May (mainly just the grey hair really), she didnt seem very old Aunt like May is but she wasnt bad by any means. I also thought Harry should have been mentioned or referenced but seeing as he wasnt in the original comics im not that bothered with him not being in. Toby wasnt right for the role overall for me, he seemed a bit out of place with what Parker/Spiderman should be but Garfield seemed to fit a lot better and carried modern day Pete off really well. Garfield even had a spider like posture which really helped in showing him as part human/part spider and I really like the costume more than I thought I would although I felt he took his mask of a bit too much, especially for the first film in which he should really be trying to keep his face hidden. Most of the time it fit with the story but the one where hes walkign round askless in highscholol with police sirens in the background made little sense to me, all it takes is one teenager to sneak back in or find a window and everyone knows who Spidey is. I also wasnt keen on the rather quick reveal to Gwen he was Spidey, I felt this could have been given a longer storyline and the film missed out a bit on Parker being alone with his powers and secret identity and not being able to confide in anyone as well as battling himself whether to tell Gwen who he is. I would also have liked more science Petey as he seemed to just be around science rather than wanting to be a scientific guy (more nerdy Parker) but this is only really nitpicking. Garfield also pulled off the confidence Spidey has when facing bad guys, the "knifes, my one weakness" was fantastic, brilliant sarcasm pulled off so well which Spider-Man is really all about when hes face to face with some bad guy and hopefully they use these types of jokes and Spidey-satire more as there perfect.
The introduction of handmade web-blasters though was awesome to see and utilised in the final battle with Lizard breaking them. I liked the gradual building of the costume too and with him not having it for his first few crime fighting escapades.
The CGI was awesome and the fight scenes, whilst not spectacular on a grand scale, where fantastic. They captured fight scenes really well and for once someone didnt use that god damn ing shaky cam. I was so happy just to be able to see what was happening and loved they made use of Spider-Mans webbing in fights. The trap he made for the Lizard in the sewer was beautiful, nerdy and super, Parker and Spider-Man working together which they did really well to incorporate into the film. The only bade side of the CGI was Lizard having no nose, a small complaint but it shows its a good film when I can only complain really about someone missing a beak. The fight scenes in the film where awesome and Im really glad they didnt go too monumental with them as its only the first film and the Lizard isnt the biggest foe Spideys ever gunna face. Hes going to improve as a hero and become better at crime fighting but in this film his still young and learning and thers still space for improvement in fight scenes and Spidey fighting techniques in sequels. Slight dissapointment however at the lack of Spidey making mistakes when crime fighting as this is a massive bit of him learning to be Spider-Man.
One thing this movie beat Raimis in hands down was the fact the climatic battle didnt involve MJ in peril, it was a good plot point for the first film, it sort of worked for the second, by the third it was just pointless and repetitive and quite annoying to see.
I love the way they ended the film with lots of holes still open and it makes me really eager for a sequel. The one thing I thought towards the end was how awesome a symbiote would be in this Spidey film universe. Although I hope its introduced at around the 4th film giving time for normal Spider-Man to develop and battle other foes before the big black goo shows up as well as introducing Eddie Brock into the universe so as to develop Brock as a character without just sort of being the waiting to become Venom and I feel it should be set over 2 films with Venom only appearing in the 5th film (if plot started in the 4th film). Another thing I would love to see is Man-Spider, they seemed to hint slightly at it with talk of "how much could the effects take over" and the same formulae turning Conners into the Lizard supposedly being used to create the spider biting Parker. So many good possibilities for sequels and I wonder what Goblin they'd go for.
I'd give this Spidey an 7.5/10 as it has a lot of room for improvement but it has so much awesomeness in it already. Cant wait for sequel news!
I also didn't like how well connected parts of story were, it seemed too simple. For instance, Gwen Stacy is Dr. Connors lap assistant and her father is the Captain of the Police and the main guy after Spider-Man. It made the scope of the story too small. If I could best explain this, it's like how in Batman Begins....Batman is fighting to take back Gotham...yet he has minimal interaction with normal citizens. Where as is this is corrected in The Dark Knight when you see how Batman saves the lives of innocent citizens.
I thought the action and fight scenes were a big upgrade over that slow-mo Raimi stuff. The fighting was far more realistic, and I liked how he was not invincible (he constantly is bruised/cut, and he gets shot and can barely move).
Wanted to add this as I missed it in my big nonsense essay.
I did feel the story was a little to well connected but that seems to always happen in Spider-Man. I would say to the scope being too small that it is the first film and needs to start at a point where it can expand, if it started at the top and came out guns blazing like the Avengers then theres not a lot of places it can go and the next film will only really dissapoint. With there being so much space to improve and expand it adds to the mystery of the sequel and where it will go, who will be there and how the characters will react to a massive change in their life.
Last Edit: Jul 9, 2012 8:07:13 GMT -5 by wyleecyotee
As far as the story being too small and well connected, the only part that sort of made me facepalm was Gwen being Dr. Connors assistant while in high school and practically running the place giving tours and being intimately involved with the projects. That was a bit hard to swallow. Everything else I was perfectly fine with
As far as the story being too small and well connected, the only part that sort of made me facepalm was Gwen being Dr. Connors assistant while in high school and practically running the place giving tours and being intimately involved with the projects. That was a bit hard to swallow. Everything else I was perfectly fine with
For me that was the only problem and it could have been avoided, Gwen could have been on the tour and Pete of course went to see Connors. The only negative would be how would Gwen know how to use the equipment but she could have got the job or intern their (cant remember what it was exactly) and been working their for a month or so.