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Post by K5 on Jun 18, 2012 11:20:04 GMT -5
These anti-cop threads are making this forum anti-fun. Police can't stop a car because of the way someone looks driving inside. There has to be probable cause to stop a car (speeding, no turn signal, equipment violations, etc.) Whatever caused the police to stop Kingston and Punk must have been some sort of violation. I love how people feel unfairly treated or "harassed" by cops who are doing their jobs. Don't unfairly judge them. You don't want them to unfairly judge you. Cops aren't harassing you if your'e doing something wrong or breaking the law. They're doing their job. You can't pick and choose when cops do their jobs just to fit your needs. They either enforce ALL of the laws or none. you are completely wrong if you think that cops don't profile, and act on that profiling. i've been pulled over several times for no violation, just 'routine highway checks'. get your head out of your ass. and i'm not anti-cop, by any means.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jun 18, 2012 15:20:11 GMT -5
i've literally had countless incidents similar to this. cops can be real douchebags when they haven't pulled in their month's quota. The quota is a myth. There is none. Funny that the only time I hear "pull in their quota", it's coming from someone who isn't an officer. Not directly attacking you, just saying what I've observed. Now I'm not gonna say that they weren't profiled. I drive a blacked out 85 SS Monte Carlo with chrome rims. Me and my white best friend have been pulled over a more than a few times riding through town at certain hours of the night despite being completely innocent. But they're still doing their jobs. When cops pull over someone based on such a thing, it's not because they think they'll catch something, it's because they've caught things under the same circumstances before. Not saying it's right, but that's the way it works sometimes. Oh yeah, most of this thread is pathetic. Just a bunch of people in here vicariously fighting the power through their hero CM Punk. I love Punk, but he definitely strikes me as the type of person who's general attitude would piss off Police, innocent or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 15:34:34 GMT -5
I'd rather be getting head and ass instead of taking my head out of my ass.
Anyway, the above post is correct. Quotas are a myth and actually ILLEGAL in most places.
A lot of people claim bad experiences with police. Maybe its because the police have only had bad experiences with you.
Are all cops perfect? No. Either are nurses, firefighters, garbage men, librarians, dentists and pizza deliverers.
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Post by Likwid[[Southern]] on Jun 18, 2012 16:19:02 GMT -5
I'd rather be getting head and ass instead of taking my head out of my ass. Anyway, the above post is correct. Quotas are a myth and actually ILLEGAL in most places. A lot of people claim bad experiences with police. Maybe its because the police have only had bad experiences with you. Are all cops perfect? No. Either are nurses, firefighters, garbage men, librarians, dentists and pizza deliverers. Yea, all those damned pizza boys coming into my house illegally to search my sh*t... you been watchin' too many DiGoirno's commercials, bub.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jun 18, 2012 17:11:33 GMT -5
I'd rather be getting head and ass instead of taking my head out of my ass. Anyway, the above post is correct. Quotas are a myth and actually ILLEGAL in most places. A lot of people claim bad experiences with police. Maybe its because the police have only had bad experiences with you. Are all cops perfect? No. Either are nurses, firefighters, garbage men, librarians, dentists and pizza deliverers. Yea, all those damned pizza boys coming into my house illegally to search my sh*t... you been watchin' too many DiGoirno's commercials, bub. That's done what for the point you're trying to argue?
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Post by Likwid[[Southern]] on Jun 18, 2012 17:24:50 GMT -5
Yea, all those damned pizza boys coming into my house illegally to search my sh*t... you been watchin' too many DiGoirno's commercials, bub. That's done what for the point you're trying to argue? Comparing an "imperfect cop" to someone in another profession is like comparing apples to oranges. Punk was standing up for his rights. Was he kind of disrespectful? Yes, but he was right nonetheless. These cops were out of line by putting a single finger on the car if he said no. It's not "living vicariously" or whatever else was said, it's simply being a man, and standing up and defending what is yours. I have plenty of family who fought over seas for me, you, Punk, and everyone else to have certain rights. To allow anyone to violate them is disrespectful to everyone who has ever served in the armed forces, and is unpatriotic.
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Post by Bones Jones on Jun 18, 2012 17:51:54 GMT -5
shouldnt have left the car w/o a warrant
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jun 18, 2012 17:53:45 GMT -5
That's done what for the point you're trying to argue? Comparing an "imperfect cop" to someone in another profession is like comparing apples to oranges. Punk was standing up for his rights. Was he kind of disrespectful? Yes, but he was right nonetheless. These cops were out of line by putting a single finger on the car if he said no. It's not "living vicariously" or whatever else was said, it's simply being a man, and standing up and defending what is yours. I have plenty of family who fought over seas for me, you, Punk, and everyone else to have certain rights. To allow anyone to violate them is disrespectful to everyone who has ever served in the armed forces, and is unpatriotic. I never said the cops were right. I'm implying that his attitude will get him nowhere if he wants an easy time with law enforcement. Secondly, what I meant be "living vicariously" is that people are only cheering his actions because it's Mr. Fight The System CM Punk, many peoples' favorite wrestler. It's alot easier to say F*** tha Police when one of your favorite rebels is doing it too. The anti-cop vibe in this thread is WAY stronger than the one we had in the lounge only around a month ago. I'm sure Punk being involved would haven nothing to do with that though. Hmmm. Thirdly, I don't think anyone's comparing Cops to Pizza guys. It's the simple idea that hating one entire class or profession because of the ones you've had trouble with is incredibly ridiculous. The analogy used supports that idea very well.
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Post by turtle on Jun 18, 2012 21:11:39 GMT -5
Cops just pulled him over because theres kofi because hes black and punk is covered in tattoos so they target them
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 21:48:24 GMT -5
Lol, I could find twice as many reports of police misconduct, including killing unarmed individuals. It's not that people think the police are shady because Punk gets pulled over, it's because police officers have a rep of being shady. Not every cop is bad, but for every good cop there are 1 or 2 that love to throw their weight around and abuse their power as an officer of the law.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jun 18, 2012 21:51:34 GMT -5
Lol, I could find twice as many reports of police misconduct, including killing unarmed individuals. It's not that people think the police are shady because Punk gets pulled over, it's because police officers have a rep of being shady. Not every cop is bad, but for every good cop there are 1 or 2 that love to throw their weight around and abuse their power as an officer of the law. I call bull on that last claim. Absolute bull.
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Post by Daniel Arshad on Jun 18, 2012 22:31:17 GMT -5
Comparing an "imperfect cop" to someone in another profession is like comparing apples to oranges. Punk was standing up for his rights. Was he kind of disrespectful? Yes, but he was right nonetheless. These cops were out of line by putting a single finger on the car if he said no. It's not "living vicariously" or whatever else was said, it's simply being a man, and standing up and defending what is yours. I have plenty of family who fought over seas for me, you, Punk, and everyone else to have certain rights. To allow anyone to violate them is disrespectful to everyone who has ever served in the armed forces, and is unpatriotic. I never said the cops were right. I'm implying that his attitude will get him nowhere if he wants an easy time with law enforcement. Secondly, what I meant be "living vicariously" is that people are only cheering his actions because it's Mr. Fight The System CM Punk, many peoples' favorite wrestler. It's alot easier to say F*** tha Police when one of your favorite rebels is doing it too. The anti-cop vibe in this thread is WAY stronger than the one we had in the lounge only around a month ago. I'm sure Punk being involved would haven nothing to do with that though. Hmmm. Thirdly, I don't think anyone's comparing Cops to Pizza guys. It's the simple idea that hating one entire class or profession because of the ones you've had trouble with is incredibly ridiculous. The analogy used supports that idea very well.
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Post by 1992 on Jun 18, 2012 23:08:56 GMT -5
I never said the cops were right. I'm implying that his attitude will get him nowhere if he wants an easy time with law enforcement. Secondly, what I meant be "living vicariously" is that people are only cheering his actions because it's Mr. Fight The System CM Punk, many peoples' favorite wrestler. It's alot easier to say F*** tha Police when one of your favorite rebels is doing it too. The anti-cop vibe in this thread is WAY stronger than the one we had in the lounge only around a month ago. I'm sure Punk being involved would haven nothing to do with that though. Hmmm. Thirdly, I don't think anyone's comparing Cops to Pizza guys. It's the simple idea that hating one entire class or profession because of the ones you've had trouble with is incredibly ridiculous. The analogy used supports that idea very well. ....no. Everything said was spot on. You simply don't have any logical rebuttal to it so you post a crappy picture in response. Good efforts though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 23:38:13 GMT -5
Stupid anti-cop thread is stupid.
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Post by J12 on Jun 18, 2012 23:45:02 GMT -5
Though this thread has been completely derailed, if you're a fan of Punk, I recommend watching the entire Q&A from this event. It's over an hour long and it's pretty freaking awesome. Punk is right in his element and seems to really enjoy himself, and hilarious as usual.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jun 19, 2012 0:52:32 GMT -5
I never said the cops were right. I'm implying that his attitude will get him nowhere if he wants an easy time with law enforcement. Secondly, what I meant be "living vicariously" is that people are only cheering his actions because it's Mr. Fight The System CM Punk, many peoples' favorite wrestler. It's alot easier to say F*** tha Police when one of your favorite rebels is doing it too. The anti-cop vibe in this thread is WAY stronger than the one we had in the lounge only around a month ago. I'm sure Punk being involved would haven nothing to do with that though. Hmmm. Thirdly, I don't think anyone's comparing Cops to Pizza guys. It's the simple idea that hating one entire class or profession because of the ones you've had trouble with is incredibly ridiculous. The analogy used supports that idea very well. No, I just chose to exist in the real world and don't live and die by the words or actions of someone om my tv screen. I'm not "buthurt" about anything. It's actually sad to see that so many of you lack appreciation for people who protect you day in and out due to a few of them.
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Post by ICW on Jun 19, 2012 1:09:12 GMT -5
These anti-cop threads are making this forum anti-fun. Police can't stop a car because of the way someone looks driving inside. There has to be probable cause to stop a car (speeding, no turn signal, equipment violations, etc.) Whatever caused the police to stop Kingston and Punk must have been some sort of violation. I love how people feel unfairly treated or "harassed" by cops who are doing their jobs. Don't unfairly judge them. You don't want them to unfairly judge you. Cops aren't harassing you if your'e doing something wrong or breaking the law. They're doing their job. You can't pick and choose when cops do their jobs just to fit your needs. They either enforce ALL of the laws or none. Naivety at its finest. Not all cops harass people based on trivial attributes such as looks; however, not all cops just "do their job." If you think every single police officer is "clean" then you're quite mistaken.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 1:14:03 GMT -5
I never said all cops were perfect.
Hence why I said a few posts above "not all cops are perfect".
Blah. I'm done with this thread. Not clicking again. I'm here to have fun and not argue.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 1:14:40 GMT -5
You can't really believe that all cops don't profile right?
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Post by 1992 on Jun 19, 2012 1:25:41 GMT -5
These anti-cop threads are making this forum anti-fun. Police can't stop a car because of the way someone looks driving inside. There has to be probable cause to stop a car (speeding, no turn signal, equipment violations, etc.) Whatever caused the police to stop Kingston and Punk must have been some sort of violation. I love how people feel unfairly treated or "harassed" by cops who are doing their jobs. Don't unfairly judge them. You don't want them to unfairly judge you. Cops aren't harassing you if your'e doing something wrong or breaking the law. They're doing their job. You can't pick and choose when cops do their jobs just to fit your needs. They either enforce ALL of the laws or none. Naivety at its finest. Not all cops harass people based on trivial attributes such as looks; however, not all cops just "do their job." If you think every single police officer is "clean" then you're quite mistaken. Definitely don't see how him claiming the vast majority of all cop are good is any worse than every clown in the world whining about being "targeted" and "harassed" by "dirty, corrupt pigs" when they and their friends/family are breaking common laws and/or are doing obviously illegal things, and get question/ticketed/arrested for it. Nearly every single time someone's told me a "corrupt police story" I found that the police were completely within their rights to detain/question/arrest/ticket them, and the person crying "corruption!" was completely exaggerating their story. I also love how nearly everyone on the internet (especially here) just happened to be around to see some completely unbelievable, one-in-ten thousand case of the police doing something totally corrupt or negative.
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