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Post by nwoblackandred4l on Jul 3, 2012 18:03:05 GMT -5
Something I always wondered if Owen Hart didn't die what would've happened between him and Bulldog when he returned in 1999. Would they have reformed their team or feuded with Bulldog instead of The Rock?
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Post by jammer311 on Jul 3, 2012 22:13:45 GMT -5
I doubt they would have done anything together actually. If they did become a tag team in 1999, I have a feeling they would have been jobbing all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2012 22:17:41 GMT -5
Nah.
Bulldog was in a rough place...
Sadly, I don't think things would have been much different with his return.
Not sure about Owen though as I still think he was trying to get out of the business before his death.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 5:25:34 GMT -5
well yeah......Owen was looking to get out and Smith was 25% of the performer he used to be......hard to visualize anything getting done here.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 4, 2012 9:24:43 GMT -5
See I still don't believe the rumors Owen was just waiting to get out. The guy was great in the ring and was great playing the role of the whiny little brother. They guy had some love for the business and I still see him sticking around atleast part time after his contract had run out. The guy was just too talented to just call it quits in his prime.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 15:08:16 GMT -5
Owen was past his prime in 1999.
Just my opinion.
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Post by LeighD on Jul 4, 2012 16:10:11 GMT -5
It had been rumored for a while that Owen was finishing out his contract and then was looking into becoming a firefighter. He would be able to spend significantly more time with his family and always be home.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 18:38:40 GMT -5
See I still don't believe the rumors Owen was just waiting to get out. The guy was great in the ring and was great playing the role of the whiny little brother. They guy had some love for the business and I still see him sticking around atleast part time after his contract had run out. The guy was just too talented to just call it quits in his prime. I think he was genuinely very jaded though in 99 man.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 4, 2012 20:42:55 GMT -5
See I still don't believe the rumors Owen was just waiting to get out. The guy was great in the ring and was great playing the role of the whiny little brother. They guy had some love for the business and I still see him sticking around atleast part time after his contract had run out. The guy was just too talented to just call it quits in his prime. I think he was genuinely very jaded though in 99 man. I agree he didn't seem all into it but he was still a top talent in the ring when given the chance and his stuff w/ Jeff Jarrett was pretty entertaining. Wrestling was something that had been apart of Owen's whole life. While he didn't have the same passion as Bret did I just don't see him completly walking away, especially years later when the WWE did tone it down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2012 23:02:16 GMT -5
Owen wanted to walk away in the early 90s and become a fireman like Keith.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 6:10:41 GMT -5
It was my understanding that Owen went and visited Davey Boy in the hospital when Davey injured his back (this was after WCW fedexed him his release while he was in the hospital) and they were excited to reform their team, I'm pretty sure Owen was the reason Davey had signed his contract with the WWE, but his injured back wasn't healed until after Owen died.
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Post by done on Jul 5, 2012 9:59:58 GMT -5
I heard that Bulldog came back because of Owen's death o.O
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Post by K5 on Jul 5, 2012 11:40:39 GMT -5
See I still don't believe the rumors Owen was just waiting to get out. The guy was great in the ring and was great playing the role of the whiny little brother. They guy had some love for the business and I still see him sticking around atleast part time after his contract had run out. The guy was just too talented to just call it quits in his prime. martha hart always hated wrestling and saw how it was destructive and really an insane environment. i mean, you can dispute what his widow says, but she claims adamantly that owen wanted to become a firefighter for years but had been refused by the calgary firefighting he was interested in for some reason or another. it's so weird how people argue this stuff when literally the best sources claim it. i mean, i'm by no means sure, but owen hart probably loved his wife and kids more than wrestling..
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 5, 2012 12:20:11 GMT -5
See I still don't believe the rumors Owen was just waiting to get out. The guy was great in the ring and was great playing the role of the whiny little brother. They guy had some love for the business and I still see him sticking around atleast part time after his contract had run out. The guy was just too talented to just call it quits in his prime. martha hart always hated wrestling and saw how it was destructive and really an insane environment. i mean, you can dispute what his widow says, but she claims adamantly that owen wanted to become a firefighter for years but had been refused by the calgary firefighting he was interested in for some reason or another. it's so weird how people argue this stuff when literally the best sources claim it. i mean, i'm by no means sure, but owen hart probably loved his wife and kids more than wrestling.. Didn't say Owen loved wrestling more than his family. Owen, like every wrestler should, loved his family more than wrestling. But its not secret that wrstling was apart of his life and he spent years trying to make it in the WWF. I just don't see him totally dropping it all together. Taking a sabatical like Y2J did for 2.5 years seems like something Owen might do, but just walking away doesn't seem likely.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 19:35:50 GMT -5
I think he was genuinely very jaded though in 99 man. I agree he didn't seem all into it but he was still a top talent in the ring when given the chance and his stuff w/ Jeff Jarrett was pretty entertaining. Wrestling was something that had been apart of Owen's whole life. While he didn't have the same passion as Bret did I just don't see him completly walking away, especially years later when the WWE did tone it down. no doubt-his team with JJ was awesome.
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Post by K5 on Jul 5, 2012 23:35:59 GMT -5
martha hart always hated wrestling and saw how it was destructive and really an insane environment. i mean, you can dispute what his widow says, but she claims adamantly that owen wanted to become a firefighter for years but had been refused by the calgary firefighting he was interested in for some reason or another. it's so weird how people argue this stuff when literally the best sources claim it. i mean, i'm by no means sure, but owen hart probably loved his wife and kids more than wrestling.. Didn't say Owen loved wrestling more than his family. Owen, like every wrestler should, loved his family more than wrestling. But its not secret that wrstling was apart of his life and he spent years trying to make it in the WWF. I just don't see him totally dropping it all together. Taking a sabatical like Y2J did for 2.5 years seems like something Owen might do, but just walking away doesn't seem likely. well, the likelihood is cemented in martha hart's repeated statements throughout her book about their ongoing plans to completely sever their ties to the wrestling world. it's not rumors when it comes from the direct source.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jul 6, 2012 0:16:08 GMT -5
Didn't say Owen loved wrestling more than his family. Owen, like every wrestler should, loved his family more than wrestling. But its not secret that wrstling was apart of his life and he spent years trying to make it in the WWF. I just don't see him totally dropping it all together. Taking a sabatical like Y2J did for 2.5 years seems like something Owen might do, but just walking away doesn't seem likely. well, the likelihood is cemented in martha hart's repeated statements throughout her book about their ongoing plans to completely sever their ties to the wrestling world. it's not rumors when it comes from the direct source. Well she clearly has very negative views of the wrestling world (and who can blame her), so her saying things in order to portray the business in a negative light would not be surprising.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 6:14:45 GMT -5
at this point in time I have to take anything MH says with a grain of salt.she is incredibly bitter towards wrestling and with good reason but it is definately clouding her version of history IMO.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 6, 2012 10:36:00 GMT -5
Didn't say Owen loved wrestling more than his family. Owen, like every wrestler should, loved his family more than wrestling. But its not secret that wrstling was apart of his life and he spent years trying to make it in the WWF. I just don't see him totally dropping it all together. Taking a sabatical like Y2J did for 2.5 years seems like something Owen might do, but just walking away doesn't seem likely. well, the likelihood is cemented in martha hart's repeated statements throughout her book about their ongoing plans to completely sever their ties to the wrestling world. it's not rumors when it comes from the direct source. She is also the same person who completly severed all ties w/ the Hart family as well, w/ Bret claiming he hasn't seen Owen's kids in a long time. Martha always had a negative light on the wrestling business, even before Owen died. She has every right in the world to hate the wrestling business for what it did to her family, but she also will say anything to put the wrestling business in a negative light.
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Post by DTP. on Jul 6, 2012 23:06:43 GMT -5
I watched the Life and Death of Owen Hart documentary on YouTube the other day. He wanted to be a firefighter professionally, but didn't get accepted. He wanted to support his family and get a really big house and live happily, but couldn't get a job in firefighting or in an office, and so with his experience in wrestling in Stampede, he decided to go with wrestling.
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