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Post by paperbackhero on Jul 9, 2012 15:00:05 GMT -5
Texas - Funks Rhodes family Hansen Murdoch Blanchard Jake Roberts HBK Austin Mark Henry Undertaker Eddy Von Erichs JBL Windham family Paul London
Canada - Hart family Piper Martel Le Duc's Kowalski Stratus Corino Vampiro Vachons Kiniski Patterson Stomper Gouldie Bravo Abdullah Rougeaus Tenta Storm Edge Christian Jericho Test Carpentier Whipper Billy Watson Benoit
Who do you think?
Im sure Im missing a ton of guys...i though id mention some of the most successful.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jul 9, 2012 15:15:59 GMT -5
Texas vs. Canada. It just takes one of our states to beat an entire country!
But, really, both gave us so many great wrestlers. Too hard to call.
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Post by specterkev on Jul 9, 2012 15:31:28 GMT -5
tough call..VERY tough...but I'm Texan so i'm just a tad bit biased lol
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Post by paperbackhero on Jul 9, 2012 16:18:43 GMT -5
Texas vs. Canada. It just takes one of our states to beat an entire country! But, really, both gave us so many great wrestlers. Too hard to call. No kidding! Population wise, pretty similar though. Maybe a cool Dream Survivor Series could be arranged. Minnesota has a good gene pool as well.
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Post by K5 on Jul 9, 2012 16:22:15 GMT -5
Texas vs. Canada. It just takes one of our states to beat an entire country! But, really, both gave us so many great wrestlers. Too hard to call. texas is larger than several countries, anyways. i'm biased as hell here, i have to go with canada just for connection/memories.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 9, 2012 18:23:08 GMT -5
Texas easily IMO. Mainly because most of the Texas wrestlers were World Champs/Main Eventers (Rhodes Family, Funks, Austin etc) and a lot of the Canadians (listed) were more on the mid card level. Bret, Martel, Edge, Christian, Jericho and Benoit are the only top tier World Champions for that list. Both Funks, Dusty Rhodes, Austin, HBK, Taker, Hansen, Henry, Kerry and David Von Erich, JBL, Barry Windham, Eddie....all were world champions in big companies.
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Post by Brad on Jul 9, 2012 18:49:30 GMT -5
I have to go with Texas.
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Post by paperbackhero on Jul 9, 2012 18:52:01 GMT -5
Carpentier, Kiniski, and Watson were all NWA World Champs...back when it meant something...and Kowalski was a WWWF champ...Piper, Vachon and Abdullah put some asses in seats for a long, long time.
That Texas lineup is ridiculously strong though.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 9, 2012 19:04:58 GMT -5
Carpentier, Kiniski, and Watson were all NWA World Champs...back when it meant something...and Kowalski was a WWWF champ...Vachon and Abdullah put some asses in seats for a long, long time. That Texas lineup is ridiculously strong though. Totally didnt realize Watson was an NWA Champ and forgot about Kiniski winning the title. I didnt count Carpentier because I thought the NWA doesnt recognize the title switch. Kowalski was never the WWWF champion though. He did hold a Tag Title. However even by adding those three to Canada, Texas still almost doubles them. Plus you can add Booker T, Dick Hutton (NWA Champ) to the Texas list.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 9, 2012 19:22:27 GMT -5
Between Austin, Taker, HBK and the Von Erichs I'd go with Texas personally.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 9, 2012 20:31:52 GMT -5
Canada
And you can add Booker T to your Texas list.
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Post by paperbackhero on Jul 9, 2012 20:46:15 GMT -5
Carpentier, Kiniski, and Watson were all NWA World Champs...back when it meant something...and Kowalski was a WWWF champ...Vachon and Abdullah put some asses in seats for a long, long time. That Texas lineup is ridiculously strong though. Totally didnt realize Watson was an NWA Champ and forgot about Kiniski winning the title. I didnt count Carpentier because I thought the NWA doesnt recognize the title switch. Kowalski was never the WWWF champion though. He did hold a Tag Title. However even by adding those three to Canada, Texas still almost doubles them. Plus you can add Booker T, Dick Hutton (NWA Champ) to the Texas list. Kiniski was considered a dud, from what i've read. Watson was a real star though, and famous in my hometown of TO. 30 years as a headliner. Thanks for the Kowalki clarification...i thought Bruno or Pedro and him swapped it once. Carpentier may have been "erased" from history, but that is a really sketchy story. Muschnick worked hard to get his reign recognized, but Quinn and others had a real crapshow going on to get it struck from the record books. Im reading the NWA history book right now...facinating stuff. Hutton, Dory, Terry, Rhodes, Kerry (18 days)...who else?
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 9, 2012 21:59:20 GMT -5
Totally didnt realize Watson was an NWA Champ and forgot about Kiniski winning the title. I didnt count Carpentier because I thought the NWA doesnt recognize the title switch. Kowalski was never the WWWF champion though. He did hold a Tag Title. However even by adding those three to Canada, Texas still almost doubles them. Plus you can add Booker T, Dick Hutton (NWA Champ) to the Texas list. Kiniski was considered a dud, from what i've read. Watson was a real star though, and famous in my hometown of TO. 30 years as a headliner. Thanks for the Kowalki clarification...i thought Bruno or Pedro and him swapped it once. Carpentier may have been "erased" from history, but that is a really sketchy story. Muschnick worked hard to get his reign recognized, but Quinn and others had a real crap show going on to get it struck from the record books. Im reading the NWA history book right now...facinating stuff. Hutton, Dory, Terry, Rhodes, Kerry (18 days)...who else? For the NWA? Barry Windham. If you count AWA (which I did for Martel and Hansen) then you can add Fritz Von Erich.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 9, 2012 22:48:45 GMT -5
Canada And you can add Booker T to your Texas list. I never thought to ask this question on here, but I assume now is as good a time as any. Was the original concept for Harlem Heat supposed to be Harlem, Texas? I know they were billed from 110th street or whatever but isn't Harlem, Texas right by Houston? I always wondered if that is where they got the name for the team. Not sure if Booker T has ever talked about that in a shoot or anything or if it was just a weird coincidence.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jul 9, 2012 23:24:13 GMT -5
The Rock is part Canadian...
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 10, 2012 0:17:49 GMT -5
Canada And you can add Booker T to your Texas list. I never thought to ask this question on here, but I assume now is as good a time as any. Was the original concept for Harlem Heat supposed to be Harlem, Texas? I know they were billed from 110th street or whatever but isn't Harlem, Texas right by Houston? I always wondered if that is where they got the name for the team. Not sure if Booker T has ever talked about that in a shoot or anything or if it was just a weird coincidence. Never knew there was a Harlem, Tx haha. But yea it was suppose to be about Harlem, NY. The Rock is part Canadian... Im pretty sure you cant be "part" Canadian. Its not something that can really be "passed down" through Generations. He wasnt born in Canada and as far as I know he's not a legal citizen of Canada so he's not Canadian. Rocky Johnson on the other hand, a legal citizen of Canada, is Canadian.
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Post by K5 on Jul 10, 2012 0:25:28 GMT -5
yea, you can't be 'part' canadian. canada is multiculturalism, period.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 0:27:07 GMT -5
Canada because it gave me Trish Stratus during my most formidable years.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jul 10, 2012 0:27:55 GMT -5
Pretty hard to pit anything against Texas tbh, no other state is nearly as much of a factory. In terms of women's wrestling though Canada is by far much better. There are really only two legit schools in Canada in the first place so you have to account for that too.
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Post by paperbackhero on Jul 10, 2012 1:23:13 GMT -5
Kiniski was considered a dud, from what i've read. Watson was a real star though, and famous in my hometown of TO. 30 years as a headliner. Thanks for the Kowalki clarification...i thought Bruno or Pedro and him swapped it once. Carpentier may have been "erased" from history, but that is a really sketchy story. Muschnick worked hard to get his reign recognized, but Quinn and others had a real crap show going on to get it struck from the record books. Im reading the NWA history book right now...facinating stuff. Hutton, Dory, Terry, Rhodes, Kerry (18 days)...who else? For the NWA? Barry Windham. If you count AWA (which I did for Martel and Hansen) then you can add Fritz Von Erich. I wasnt even thinking AWA... Was Barry's NWA title voted on? I thought it was the beginning of the seperation with WCW. I guess debating quality of reigns and lengths would need to be done around a table with beers. Fruitless, but fun. Shit, Texas might even trump Japan...but thats a whole new can of worms....
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