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Post by done on Jul 12, 2012 13:13:46 GMT -5
He reminds of Hennig and Ric Flair to be honest. I get the Billy Gunn thing, primarily because he got stuck with that early on because of the hair, and he uses the leg drop bulldog, but the guy has to watch excess amounts of film on Perfect and Flair imo. The mannerisms, watch the little things Ziggler does and the way he works the crowd, it's like a guy who spent a decade studying the case files of two of the greatest of all time. Dolph Ziggler isn't even remotely like Ric Flair. They are the complete opposite. Ziggler is a natural athlete, and one who is phenomenal at his craft. Ric Flair couldn't sell a back body drop. Ziggler puts on a good match no matter who he's against. Ric Flair struggled to put on good matches with some of the all time greats. Can I ask what it is that reminds you of Flair? Even in terms of wrestling style, Dolph is one of those Technical, Scientific wrestlers like Curt Hennig and Billy Gunn. Flair is more a dirty wrestler who doesn't do any wrestling manovuers, just eye pokes, chops and flops down on the ground. If it was announced that Dolph Ziggler was Billy Gunn's son, I would believe them. Yeah, they look so much unlike, he isn't so Ric or Perfect, but he is like a Gunn. I think it would of been good if he had debuted as Dolph...Gunn or Nicky Gunn lol -They should also make Ziggler win the King of the Ring(like Gunn) then finally actually win the WWE Title(unlike Gunn)
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Post by k5 on Jul 12, 2012 13:25:30 GMT -5
he does for sure, not only in ring work but outside.
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Post by CF9™ on Jul 12, 2012 13:52:51 GMT -5
He reminds of Hennig and Ric Flair to be honest. I get the Billy Gunn thing, primarily because he got stuck with that early on because of the hair, and he uses the leg drop bulldog, but the guy has to watch excess amounts of film on Perfect and Flair imo. The mannerisms, watch the little things Ziggler does and the way he works the crowd, it's like a guy who spent a decade studying the case files of two of the greatest of all time. Dolph Ziggler isn't even remotely like Ric Flair. They are the complete opposite. Ziggler is a natural athlete, and one who is phenomenal at his craft. Ric Flair couldn't sell a back body drop. Ziggler puts on a good match no matter who he's against. Ric Flair struggled to put on good matches with some of the all time greats. Can I ask what it is that reminds you of Flair? Even in terms of wrestling style, Dolph is one of those Technical, Scientific wrestlers like Curt Hennig and Billy Gunn. Flair is more a dirty wrestler who doesn't do any wrestling manovuers, just eye pokes, chops and flops down on the ground. If it was announced that Dolph Ziggler was Billy Gunn's son, I would believe them. Are you ing kidding me, man? Ric Flair struggled to put on good matches with people? What in the hell are you talking about? Ric Flair traveled the country and made everyone from local talents to big stars look like a million bucks hundreds of times a year. Have you seen his work against Steamboat, Funk, Windham, anybody? He worked the crowd like a mastermind, he worked the LEG like a mastermind, and honestly had ring work down to an art. You're ridiculous. I don't care if people don't like Flair, but your points are horrible. He couldn't sell a back body drop... because he broke his ing back in a damn plane crash. That's why he jumped so damn high for them, to compensate for the fact that he couldn't land flat on his back because he BROKE IT IN A PLANE CRASH. Watch the stuff Ziggler does. The man HAS watched plenty of Ric Flair.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 14:06:02 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler isn't even remotely like Ric Flair. They are the complete opposite. Ziggler is a natural athlete, and one who is phenomenal at his craft. Ric Flair couldn't sell a back body drop. Ziggler puts on a good match no matter who he's against. Ric Flair struggled to put on good matches with some of the all time greats. Can I ask what it is that reminds you of Flair? Even in terms of wrestling style, Dolph is one of those Technical, Scientific wrestlers like Curt Hennig and Billy Gunn. Flair is more a dirty wrestler who doesn't do any wrestling manovuers, just eye pokes, chops and flops down on the ground. If it was announced that Dolph Ziggler was Billy Gunn's son, I would believe them. Are you ing kidding me, man? Ric Flair struggled to put on good matches with people? What in the hell are you talking about? Ric Flair traveled the country and made everyone from local talents to big stars look like a million bucks hundreds of times a year. Have you seen his work against Steamboat, Funk, Windham, anybody? He worked the crowd like a mastermind, he worked the LEG like a mastermind, and honestly had ring work down to an art. You're ridiculous. I don't care if people don't like Flair, but your points are horrible. He couldn't sell a back body drop... because he broke his ing back in a damn plane crash. That's why he jumped so damn high for them, to compensate for the fact that he couldn't land flat on his back because he BROKE IT IN A PLANE CRASH. Watch the stuff Ziggler does. The man HAS watched plenty of Ric Flair. I'm not going to turn this into a thread arguing about Flair. But saying Dolph is anything like him in any way, shape or form is probably the most random thing I have ever heard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 14:09:27 GMT -5
He doesn't remind me of Perfect in terms of looks, it more of the way he sells things over the top like Hennig did.
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Post by CF9™ on Jul 12, 2012 14:16:21 GMT -5
Are you ing kidding me, man? Ric Flair struggled to put on good matches with people? What in the hell are you talking about? Ric Flair traveled the country and made everyone from local talents to big stars look like a million bucks hundreds of times a year. Have you seen his work against Steamboat, Funk, Windham, anybody? He worked the crowd like a mastermind, he worked the LEG like a mastermind, and honestly had ring work down to an art. You're ridiculous. I don't care if people don't like Flair, but your points are horrible. He couldn't sell a back body drop... because he broke his ing back in a damn plane crash. That's why he jumped so damn high for them, to compensate for the fact that he couldn't land flat on his back because he BROKE IT IN A PLANE CRASH. Watch the stuff Ziggler does. The man HAS watched plenty of Ric Flair. I'm not going to turn this into a thread arguing about Flair. But saying Dolph is anything like him in any way, shape or form is probably the most random thing I have ever heard. Bleach blonde hair. Openly saying he'll put on the best match of the night. The strut after an impressive move. Somewhat of his selling style. Also, just a lot of little things he does in the ring that are too hard to explain. He's not a carbon copy of Flair, and their movesets are pretty much nothing alike. But there are similarities there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 14:25:46 GMT -5
I'm not going to turn this into a thread arguing about Flair. But saying Dolph is anything like him in any way, shape or form is probably the most random thing I have ever heard. Bleach blonde hair. Openly saying he'll put on the best match of the night. The strut after an impressive move. Somewhat of his selling style. Also, just a lot of little things he does in the ring that are too hard to explain. He's not a carbon copy of Flair, and their movesets are pretty much nothing alike. But there are similarities there. So in other words, the fact that they are both heels?
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Post by CF9™ on Jul 12, 2012 15:14:19 GMT -5
Bleach blonde hair. Openly saying he'll put on the best match of the night. The strut after an impressive move. Somewhat of his selling style. Also, just a lot of little things he does in the ring that are too hard to explain. He's not a carbon copy of Flair, and their movesets are pretty much nothing alike. But there are similarities there. So in other words, the fact that they are both heels? No. You're being pretty oblivious. They have similarities that aren't just heel characteristics.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jul 12, 2012 17:52:40 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler can sell headphones to a deaf person.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 12, 2012 18:32:00 GMT -5
Christ on a Cracker!!
No he's not even close to being in the same league as Hennig. If you put a pair of lips on his trunks though he would be Billy Gunns twin. They should just change his name to Dolph Gunn.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 19:46:43 GMT -5
Unbelievable heel? Similar to Mr Perfect? This place is ridiculous! Isnt this guy the same 31 year old trying to say Cena's OK hand symbols are satanic? yeaaaa like you know anything about wrestling let alone life.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 19:53:04 GMT -5
Ziggler is by far and away the most talented guy in WWE right now, that includes Punk, Bryan, Sheamus etc. No only does he have the look he could have a match with a plastic bag and it would probably be the most entertaining match of the night.
The people comparing Ziggler to Billy Gunn because they share the same hair are F***ing morons. Thats like comparing Booker T and the Rock because they are both black.
If they push Ziggler right and give him more mic time he could easly go down as one of the greatest of all time. Tell me how Cena or Punk are any better at anything when it comes to wrestling than Ziggler yet look at how they have been featured at pushed like crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 20:05:19 GMT -5
So in other words, the fact that they are both heels? No. You're being pretty oblivious. They have similarities that aren't just heel characteristics. It does no good arguing with Anvil Fan...
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