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Post by realjuicewinslow on Jul 13, 2012 13:05:19 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter & Hacksaw vs. Primetime Players I bet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 13:14:12 GMT -5
I really WANT it to be something special and sweet but I have my doubts.
I expect a battle royal with all the old guys and a backstage segment or two with Charlie Sheen and D-X.
That'll pretty much be it.
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Post by emmaobrien1 on Jul 13, 2012 13:39:13 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter & Hacksaw vs. Primetime Players I bet. As much as I hate it, that's what we'll get. AND PTP will loose.
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Post by jammer311 on Jul 13, 2012 13:43:11 GMT -5
I really WANT it to be something special and sweet but I have my doubts. I expect a battle royal with all the old guys and a backstage segment or two with Charlie Sheen and D-X.That'll pretty much be it. Charlie Sheen isn't gonna be at Raw. The thing was he was just gonna be tweeting that night about it or something. And now that Charlie is getting rid of his Twitter, that won't be happening.
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Post by realjuicewinslow on Jul 13, 2012 15:38:26 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter & Hacksaw vs. Primetime Players I bet. As much as I hate it, that's what we'll get. AND PTP will loose. ...and then Santino and Brodus will come out and dance with them.
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Jul 13, 2012 16:03:21 GMT -5
Is the 1000th Raw this Monday?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 16:08:11 GMT -5
Is the 1000th Raw this Monday? No, the Monday after.
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Post by J12 on Jul 13, 2012 16:50:54 GMT -5
Anyone who truly wants a second coming of the attitude era is simply being overly nostalgic.
I know most of us grew up with the attitude era, myself included, and sure, there are some really great memories and some incredible things that happened. I would love to see things happen on that grand of a scale again.
But the fact is, the Attitude Era gave us just as much bad as it did good. For every great promo between Stone Cold and Vince McMahon or The Rock, there was something like Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Hell, most of the wrestling was terrible.
I find plenty of fault with the current state of WWE, but one thing I will contend unapologetically is the feeling that the wrestling is better now, far better now, than it ever was during the attitude era. It's the storyline engagement that's missing.
We, as fans, look at the attitude era with goggles on. We remember how we felt to be so incredibly enthralled by the product back then, that we forget that most of us were far younger and impressionable.
Half of the stuff I found entertaining and funny as a fan during the attitude era I would now find petty, childish, and downright disgusting. We grew up.
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Post by peacenfunk on Jul 13, 2012 17:19:45 GMT -5
Anyone who truly wants a second coming of the attitude era is simply being overly nostalgic. I know most of us grew up with the attitude era, myself included, and sure, there are some really great memories and some incredible things that happened. I would love to see things happen on that grand of a scale again. But the fact is, the Attitude Era gave us just as much bad as it did good. For every great promo between Stone Cold and Vince McMahon or The Rock, there was something like Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Hell, most of the wrestling was terrible. I find plenty of fault with the current state of WWE, but one thing I will contend unapologetically is the feeling that the wrestling is better now, far better now, than it ever was during the attitude era. It's the storyline engagement that's missing. We, as fans, look at the attitude era with goggles on. We remember how we felt to be so incredibly enthralled by the product back then, that we forget that most of us were far younger and impressionable. Half of the stuff I found entertaining and funny as a fan during the attitude era I would now find petty, childish, and downright disgusting. We grew up. 100% agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 17:22:27 GMT -5
Anyone who truly wants a second coming of the attitude era is simply being overly nostalgic. I know most of us grew up with the attitude era, myself included, and sure, there are some really great memories and some incredible things that happened. I would love to see things happen on that grand of a scale again. But the fact is, the Attitude Era gave us just as much bad as it did good. For every great promo between Stone Cold and Vince McMahon or The Rock, there was something like Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Hell, most of the wrestling was terrible. I find plenty of fault with the current state of WWE, but one thing I will contend unapologetically is the feeling that the wrestling is better now, far better now, than it ever was during the attitude era. It's the storyline engagement that's missing. We, as fans, look at the attitude era with goggles on. We remember how we felt to be so incredibly enthralled by the product back then, that we forget that most of us were far younger and impressionable. Half of the stuff I found entertaining and funny as a fan during the attitude era I would now find petty, childish, and downright disgusting. We grew up. Post of the mother ing year.
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Post by jacktunney on Jul 13, 2012 17:34:44 GMT -5
But why can't we have engaging edgy storylines now like we did then. Everything is so formulaic these day. 97-98 was so much better creatively than it is today. I'm not just talking about the swearing and the t and a. Stable wars, characters with actual personality to make them stand apart from each other. Gimmick matches that actually culminated a fued instead of being a ppv scheduled months ahead.
Also while there may be some great athletes today I'm not so sure I agree on the better matches. Besides punk and Bryan I feel like you can swap out every black trunked wrestler who uses a move set as limited as a video game. When was the last time we have seen a piledriver, brainbuster ect... He'll a figure four or leap frog is a minor miracle these days.
Late 96-97 shows you can have high quality, gritty programming without all the fringe crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 18:31:34 GMT -5
You can't manufacture a new era, one just has to happen. I have zero expectation for the 1000th Raw. Right now, we have a bunch of big time Legends/Stars and 3 hours to work with to make something happen. Nexus didn't change the era, Punk sadly didn't change the era (wasn't allowed), so what is it that people are expecting? Linda McMahon is under a microscope and still campaigning, which means WWE is under the same microscope. Exactly, Linda's political career has been more important than running WWE the right way lately. Her oppontents were using all the sex, violence, drug use and steroids of the attitude era against her last time I checked.
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Post by Scotty on Jul 13, 2012 18:55:44 GMT -5
Anyone who truly wants a second coming of the attitude era is simply being overly nostalgic. I know most of us grew up with the attitude era, myself included, and sure, there are some really great memories and some incredible things that happened. I would love to see things happen on that grand of a scale again. But the fact is, the Attitude Era gave us just as much bad as it did good. For every great promo between Stone Cold and Vince McMahon or The Rock, there was something like Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Hell, most of the wrestling was terrible. I find plenty of fault with the current state of WWE, but one thing I will contend unapologetically is the feeling that the wrestling is better now, far better now, than it ever was during the attitude era. It's the storyline engagement that's missing. We, as fans, look at the attitude era with goggles on. We remember how we felt to be so incredibly enthralled by the product back then, that we forget that most of us were far younger and impressionable. Half of the stuff I found entertaining and funny as a fan during the attitude era I would now find petty, childish, and downright disgusting. We grew up. I have felt this way for so long, and I am incredibly happy someone finally said it.
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Post by nwoblackandred4l on Jul 13, 2012 18:56:58 GMT -5
Anyone who truly wants a second coming of the attitude era is simply being overly nostalgic. I know most of us grew up with the attitude era, myself included, and sure, there are some really great memories and some incredible things that happened. I would love to see things happen on that grand of a scale again. But the fact is, the Attitude Era gave us just as much bad as it did good. For every great promo between Stone Cold and Vince McMahon or The Rock, there was something like Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Hell, most of the wrestling was terrible. I find plenty of fault with the current state of WWE, but one thing I will contend unapologetically is the feeling that the wrestling is better now, far better now, than it ever was during the attitude era. It's the storyline engagement that's missing. We, as fans, look at the attitude era with goggles on. We remember how we felt to be so incredibly enthralled by the product back then, that we forget that most of us were far younger and impressionable. Half of the stuff I found entertaining and funny as a fan during the attitude era I would now find petty, childish, and downright disgusting. We grew up. Disagree 100% about the wrestling. Back then the wrestling was at it's best and the wrestlers all stood out from each other and had their own movesets. The main problem with todays wrestling in WWE is FCW because the wrestlers are all cut from the same cloth amd are brought up to the roster with short hair and trunks along with the same movesets. even Sin Cara can't do moves properly and there is also too many squash matches so I don't know why you think the wrestling today is better. Apart from that I DO enjoy Daniel Bryan and CM Punk's matches. Ps back in the attitude era the divas could actually wrestle aswell.
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Post by jakks1996collector on Jul 13, 2012 20:49:06 GMT -5
I don't want the Attitude Era back. Not a big fan of trash storylines. Hated the CM Punk/Jericho beer storyline. Completely sucked the life out of that feud.
The key is for WWE to produce an intriguing storyline without relying on Attitude Era/TNA storylines and without being too hokey. WWE found that balance last summer during the Punk/Cena feud but let go of that quickly and soon we were back to R-Truth acting stupid and John Laurinaitus messing up his lines.
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Post by jakks1996collector on Jul 13, 2012 20:50:13 GMT -5
As much as I hate it, that's what we'll get. AND PTP will loose. ...and then Santino and Brodus will come out and dance with them. That sounds about right. The Old School RAW in 2010 and the Blast from the Past Smackdown pretty much followed that formula.
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Post by jm556 on Jul 13, 2012 21:57:00 GMT -5
Anyone who truly wants a second coming of the attitude era is simply being overly nostalgic. I know most of us grew up with the attitude era, myself included, and sure, there are some really great memories and some incredible things that happened. I would love to see things happen on that grand of a scale again. But the fact is, the Attitude Era gave us just as much bad as it did good. For every great promo between Stone Cold and Vince McMahon or The Rock, there was something like Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Hell, most of the wrestling was terrible. I find plenty of fault with the current state of WWE, but one thing I will contend unapologetically is the feeling that the wrestling is better now, far better now, than it ever was during the attitude era. It's the storyline engagement that's missing. We, as fans, look at the attitude era with goggles on. We remember how we felt to be so incredibly enthralled by the product back then, that we forget that most of us were far younger and impressionable. Half of the stuff I found entertaining and funny as a fan during the attitude era I would now find petty, childish, and downright disgusting. We grew up. It's about damn time someone said this.
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