Razor-toothed™
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Post by Razor-toothed™ on Aug 12, 2012 3:37:25 GMT -5
If Rock would have made that same joke, everyone would be laughing with no problems. Hypocritical situation.
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Post by emmaobrien1 on Aug 12, 2012 3:49:18 GMT -5
It's a shame he got fired over a joke. It's a shame he cant control his mouth. I was not a fan, but I won't deny that he had lots of potential. I love that all of a sudden you've taken the moral high ground, when you've made hundreds of offensive jokes in the past about Melina being a slut. I know it's not the same ball park, but let's not be hypocritical here.
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CSUMB84
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Post by CSUMB84 on Aug 12, 2012 4:51:03 GMT -5
It's beyond comical that people on Twitter are calling Brian Jossie, aka Abraham Washington, a "legend", a "great wrestler" and comparing him to Jimmy Hart managerial wise. Those "fans" need to stop with the over dramatics just because Jossie got released.
I remember quite fondly several years ago when Jossie debuted on ECW and a majority of people on here and various boards couldn't stand him and wanted him released after a few weeks of the Abraham Washington Show. In fact, I also remember when people moaned and groaned at the rumors of Jossie being the Raw GM.
As far as Jossie's Twitter rant, this is the tweet that caught my eye, "Thank you WWE for creating me and then killing me because I only portrayed what I grew up watching... The #WWE!!"
According to various sites, Jossie was born in 1977 and is currently 35 years old. If Jossie truly grew up watching WWE, then that means he would've grown up with the Golden Era of Wrestling of the 1980's as he would've been 20 by the time the Attitude Era started.
Perhaps Jossie should've went back and watched film on classic managers such as Bobby Hennan, Slick, Jimmy Hart, Cpt. Lou Albano, Freddie Blassie, JJ Dillion, etc., managers who got their talent over without making references to alleged sexual assault incidents.
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CSUMB84
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Post by CSUMB84 on Aug 12, 2012 4:53:42 GMT -5
*double post. please delete*
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Post by Phantom on Aug 12, 2012 5:20:28 GMT -5
He brings up great points on twitter. Orton called Kelly a slut in an interview and he got nothing. Cena told gay jokes that made GLADD upset, the WWE apologized, and that was it. He really shouldn't have been fired. If they just had to punish him, a 30-60 day suspension would have been more justifiable.
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Post by wabarrett on Aug 12, 2012 8:30:45 GMT -5
There's no doubt in my mind, he shouldn't have been fired.
However, there's also no doubt in my mind that he comes across as a common idiot on Twitter, and that he was damn irritating talking over those tag team matches.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Aug 12, 2012 8:53:08 GMT -5
He was alight, annoying talking during the matches though and no big loss.
I honestly wont be the slightest bit affected by this and when Raw comes on or the PTP have a match I wont notice much at all.
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Post by Icon on Aug 12, 2012 9:33:37 GMT -5
AW should've been fired. I firmly believe it just wasn't the rape joke that got him canned. I think they talked to him about the situation and he turned to Twitter like an arrogant prick to sarcastically back Linda McMahon's campaign in full heel character. Honestly, I think they had enough of his utter stupidity and cut ties with the guy. In a show of class, he is continuing to rant on Twitter like it's WWE's fault. It's not going to do him any favors if he wants to stay in the wrestling industry. If I was running TNA or ROH, I'd look away from the guy. It's obvious that AW has issues and I wouldn't ruin chemistry in the locker room with his attitude. He's lucky enough to get autograph signings or indy bookings because of his prior association with the WWE name alone.
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WWE Common Terry
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Aug 12, 2012 9:41:05 GMT -5
Daniel Tosh really need to throw his support behind this guy.
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Post by Chip on Aug 12, 2012 10:10:00 GMT -5
It's like what happened to Don Imus. He made a racial (not racist) comment, apologized but still got fired because Rev. Al, and other "special interest" groups threatened sponsors...etc. Completely ignoring the FANBASE of Imus who expect him to say things like that and were fine with what he said. So you're saying that it's OK, because as wrestling fans we should come to expect it? And how was the phrase "Angry nappy-headed hos" not racist? raCIAL....not raCIST. Don Imus is not a racist Racists burn crosses, and wish death on anyone not of their "color" Racists hateThe word racist is thrown around now any time someone says ANYTHING "off color" (no pun intended) about another race. Especially African Americans. yet listen to any rap/hip hop song, or watch any black comedian....throwing "the N word" around like it's nothing....calling girls "ho's" etc. Where do you think Imus even got the phrase "nappy headed ho" Ice Cube had it in a song "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It" back in 2008....yeah check the lyrics of that, and I like Ice Cube's rap he's ing great....but I'm just using it as a point to say that Imus didn't just pull that out of thin air so he could get all "racist" on a black women's basketball team. Imus made an off color comment intended as humor, he wasn't saying "those girls are disgusting vomitous nappy headed ho's" he was imitating the way a black man would have said it.... on top of that....the girls on that team DIDNT EVEN KNOW he said it, until the media plastered it all over their airwaves to get ratings and then reverend Al jumped on it like he always does. and just so we are clear, I am not any kind of racist at all. I am a white american who believes in equality for all. However I believe in freedom of speech ESPECIALLY when it comes to entertainment. I'm from the sound mind that comedians, radio DJ's, people on TV, etc. should be allowed to say pretty much anything they want under the context of humor. Just because YOU don't find something funny, doesn't mean I don't and that it shouldn't be said. People who get offended by something a comedian or entertainer says and go on some kind of power trip like that person should be fired or punished because "he offended me" are just attention seeking babies who need coddling and protection because they were never shown the way the REAL world actually is.
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Post by realjuicewinslow on Aug 12, 2012 10:10:29 GMT -5
It's a shame he cant control his mouth. I was not a fan, but I won't deny that he had lots of potential. I love that all of a sudden you've taken the moral high ground, when you've made hundreds of offensive jokes in the past about Melina being a slut. I know it's not the same ball park, but let's not be hypocritical here. You are not making no sense. What's that got to do with rape? Nothing. I will make fun of whores all day. Why do they deserve any respect? Why have you spun this into something that has nothing to do with Abraham Washington? lol.
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Post by emmaobrien1 on Aug 12, 2012 10:27:49 GMT -5
I love that all of a sudden you've taken the moral high ground, when you've made hundreds of offensive jokes in the past about Melina being a slut. I know it's not the same ball park, but let's not be hypocritical here. You are making no sense. What's that got to do with rape? Nothing. I will make fun of whores all day. Why do they deserve any respect? Why have you spun this into something that has nothing to do with Abraham Washington? lol. You're making fun and pictures based on hearsay, so you have zero idea if Melina does or doesn't deserve respect. Sounds like she was a whore to me, having sex with a married man. Nobody in the situation was raped, so how is it a rape joke? Seems to me, AW was making a joke at the expense of a whore. Just like you do.
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Post by realjuicewinslow on Aug 12, 2012 10:30:54 GMT -5
You are making no sense. What's that got to do with rape? Nothing. I will make fun of whores all day. Why do they deserve any respect? Why have you spun this into something that has nothing to do with Abraham Washington? lol. You're making fun and pictures based on hearsay, so you have zero idea if Melina does or doesn't deserve respect. Sounds like she was a whore to me, having sex with a married man. Nobody in the situation was raped, so how is it a rape joke? Seems to me, AW was making a joke at the expense of a whore. Just like you do. You are really reaching. (Like you do in almost every thread, no offense) No one desereves to raped, even whores.
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Post by Chip on Aug 12, 2012 10:36:54 GMT -5
what if A.W. said "Titus is beating Kofi like the cops beat Rodney King!" or what if he said "Kofi Kingston is as over as Michael Richards in a comedy club!" or what if he said "Titus is as cool & calm as Mel Gibson on the phone"
Those would be just as bad/dumb as what he said. I'm sure there were plenty of people who got a quick laugh when he said that, there were probably 80-100 who were like "omg he just made a rape joke!" and the rest probably didn't even get it or were getting food at conession.
The issue is that he was FIRED for it. That should NOT have happened. The bottom line is that the WWE created this character, they came up with the brilliant idea of giving this guy a live mic to be able to say what he wants and play the part of a HEEL manager. It was something we haven't seen since Jimmy Hart, and he was obviously given creative control.
So he crossed the line....albeit only slightly because there are about 2,000,000,000 worse things he could have said, and they just straight up said "see ya later"
WWE is all over social media. Have him break character, put out a quick video saying I apologize to anyone I offended, etc. And move on. He didn't need to get fired for it.
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Post by emmaobrien1 on Aug 12, 2012 10:51:50 GMT -5
You're making fun and pictures based on hearsay, so you have zero idea if Melina does or doesn't deserve respect. Sounds like she was a whore to me, having sex with a married man. Nobody in the situation was raped, so how is it a rape joke? Seems to me, AW was making a joke at the expense of a whore. Just like you do. You are really reaching. (Like you do in almost every thread, no offense) No one desereves to raped, even whores. And you're being ignorant. Nobody is defending or praising rape. Rape is a terrible, terrible thing and I feel for anyone who has to go through that, how ever.. Rape isn't apart of the equation. BRYANT DID NOT RAPE HER. All he said was "Titus O'Neil is like Kobe Bryant in a hotel in Colorado. He's unstoppable" That's a sex joke. Simple as that. Should he have apologised either way? Yes, 100% he should have. Should he have been fined or suspended? Yes, he 100% should have. Should he have been fired? Not at all.
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Post by wabarrett on Aug 12, 2012 10:56:04 GMT -5
You are making no sense. What's that got to do with rape? Nothing. I will make fun of whores all day. Why do they deserve any respect? Why have you spun this into something that has nothing to do with Abraham Washington? lol. You're making fun and pictures based on hearsay, so you have zero idea if Melina does or doesn't deserve respect.
Sounds like she was a whore to me, having sex with a married man. Nobody in the situation was raped, so how is it a rape joke? Seems to me, AW was making a joke at the expense of a whore. Just like you do. You've got a point here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2012 11:04:37 GMT -5
To be fair, A.W Didnt get released because of the joke
It was because he CONTINUED to say inappropriate things and be immature backstage.
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Post by Nash on Aug 12, 2012 11:26:23 GMT -5
He brings up great points on twitter. Orton called Kelly a slut in an interview and he got nothing. Cena told gay jokes that made GLADD upset, the WWE apologized, and that was it. He really shouldn't have been fired. If they just had to punish him, a 30-60 day suspension would have been more justifiable. Haha so you're seriously going to compare two of top names/draws in the entire company to a manager who didn't even matter? Please, get real. People are acting like he was some integral part to the program, when he was just a sideshow manager. Good riddance, especially after acting like prick about it over twitter.
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Post by emmaobrien1 on Aug 12, 2012 11:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Aug 12, 2012 11:48:12 GMT -5
So as long as no one gets the joke, its okay for the owner of the company to make fun of people while running an anti bullying campaign? Your logic is stupid. Did I say that it was ok? No, I didn't. Not in any shape or form did I say that what Vince said is ok. Please quote me on where I said that. Nice try, come again. Seriously? Anyone who has watched WWE for more than 3-4 years knew exactly what Vince was doing, and more "innocent kids" would get it too. Additionally, it was blatantly on camera; the focus of the show, unlike AW's comment that was in passing during a match. In fact, more people probably understood that than an indirect reference to an incident that occurred 10 years ago. Based on the timeframe of the Bryant incident, no one under the age of 15 would have any clue what AW was saying anyway. No, they don't. You REALLY think a ing 12-15 year old saw that and thought "Oh man, why is he making fun of JR while running an anti-bullying campaign?!?!" No, they don't. You are kidding yourself. I'll use the same logic that KSK tried using against me! So if nobody understood the rape joke, that means rape jokes are ok?f[/quote] Well I was around that age when I saw JR get mocked years ago & I knew what was going on, either you were a really ing stupid kid or you just think all kids are really that damn oblivious to their surroundings. And at 15? You'd have to be really damn stupid for something so obvious to go over your head at that age.
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