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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 20:51:14 GMT -5
I remember the Off The Record where Booker T told Bagwell he wasn't in condition to have a match and that's why it tanked. And yeah, he got fired for missing house shows and having his mother call in sick to Jim Ross.
There was definitely other WCW matches after this took place I remember a Kidman match on smackdown.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 12:31:19 GMT -5
Ohh also Bagwell went with a super high ego, Paterson warned him that he might not be as well known as he was in WCW, to which Bagwell replied "pshht I'll get the biggest pop of the night"
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Post by Kingdomofmadness89 on Aug 14, 2012 15:07:01 GMT -5
This match was booked to fail. There was nothing good about it except Booker T. Bagwell is horrible, Hudson and Arn as announcers was awful. The Ring announcer was awful...Im totally convinced Vince set this up to fail Agreed.
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Post by Double J JoshuaJohn on Aug 16, 2012 7:03:39 GMT -5
I remember shortly after wwf bought wcw there would be random wcw matches, can anyone get any more vids of these matches, thanks.
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Post by Sam Hain on Aug 16, 2012 8:25:37 GMT -5
I remember i read during the whole Invasion feud they planned on having WCW RAW (similar to how nWo sabotaged Nitro before Starrcade 97 and renamed it nWo Nitro). I think think they even planned on having a separate WCW show on TNN Saturday nights. But i think it was all just BS dirtsheet rumors and Vince only bought WCW to show how powerful his company really is and i think he actually meant when he said "WCW will be dead and buried" during the last broadcast. You're correct about the Saturday time slot, they even copyrighted WCW Saturday Nitro, but they never wanted it on TNN, to further distance WCW from WWF. They really had no main event talent during the initial buy out of WCW. They had Booker and that was it. They kinda rushed it. I think they should have waited for their own show to start using the WCW wrestlers. Appearently WCW was originally going to have it's own staff and own office, seperate from Titan Towers.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 16, 2012 8:29:24 GMT -5
I remember i read during the whole Invasion feud they planned on having WCW RAW (similar to how nWo sabotaged Nitro before Starrcade 97 and renamed it nWo Nitro). I think think they even planned on having a separate WCW show on TNN Saturday nights. But i think it was all just BS dirtsheet rumors and Vince only bought WCW to show how powerful his company really is and i think he actually meant when he said "WCW will be dead and buried" during the last broadcast. You're correct about the Saturday time slot, they even copyrighted WCW Saturday Nitro, but they never wanted it on TNN, to further distance WCW from WWF. They really had no main event talent during the initial buy out of WCW. They had Booker and that was it. They kinda rushed it. I think they should have waited for their own show to start using the WCW wrestlers. Appearently WCW was originally going to have it's own staff and own office, seperate from Titan Towers. If Vince was planning on doing that, why didnt he just give them money like he did with ECW? Like a silent takeover in office, WCW would still have their final show then return with their "Big Bang" which would be the start of WCW under McMahon rule.
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Post by threehgame on Aug 16, 2012 9:47:37 GMT -5
If Vince was planning on doing that, why didnt he just give them money like he did with ECW? Like a silent takeover in office, WCW would still have their final show then return with their "Big Bang" which would be the start of WCW under McMahon rule. ECW had private owners and could accept cash form the WWF without issue. WCW was a corporate entity and it would have been difficult to give money and get TV time for it without owning it outright. Vince could have let Nitro end on a bang, shut it down for a few months and start it on another network like nothing happened but so much damage had been done to the product by the time WCW folded it really needed to be restarted. Putting it on Raw, or Smackdown was stupid, and the Invasion idea was half-assed. It just seemed like Vince wanted the video library and some replacement talent but had to take the junk parts to get it so he had no idea what to do with what was left of WCW.
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Aug 22, 2012 13:13:01 GMT -5
There was so very much money to be made from this and the fact that the whole angle bombed frustrates me greatly. I know this topic isn't about the actual invasion, just the Booker/Bagwell match, but it's a shame we didn't get a FULL invasion with the WCW stars they know the people wanted to see.
I fully understand Vince was in full on gloat mode when he bought them, but I think he gloated TOO much and it ended up killing the biggest angle in history.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 24, 2012 12:44:12 GMT -5
There was so very much money to be made from this and the fact that the whole angle bombed frustrates me greatly. I know this topic isn't about the actual invasion, just the Booker/Bagwell match, but it's a shame we didn't get a FULL invasion with the WCW stars they know the people wanted to see.I fully understand Vince was in full on gloat mode when he bought them, but I think he gloated TOO much and it ended up killing the biggest angle in history. Exactly, if Goldberg came in and speared Austin at King of The Ring (instead of Booker T) that would've been ing insane, people would still be talking about it today.
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Aug 28, 2012 13:10:51 GMT -5
There was so very much money to be made from this and the fact that the whole angle bombed frustrates me greatly. I know this topic isn't about the actual invasion, just the Booker/Bagwell match, but it's a shame we didn't get a FULL invasion with the WCW stars they know the people wanted to see.I fully understand Vince was in full on gloat mode when he bought them, but I think he gloated TOO much and it ended up killing the biggest angle in history. Exactly, if Goldberg came in and speared Austin at King of The Ring (instead of Booker T) that would've been ing insane, people would still be talking about it today. No matter how much they would've had to spend on the contracts, they would've made it back ten fold. They wouldn't even had to buy them out all at once... or at all *cough*lexluger*cough*. But they needed Goldberg right off the bat. I don't care what they would've had to pay him, they needed him. EVERYONE would've ordered a PPV headlined by Austin vs. Goldberg. They just needed people that could be perceived as a threat to the WWE. That's why I'd bring in Scott Steiner right at the start as well. Heck, I'd bring in Rick Steiner too that way we could have the Steiner Bros. to counteract Undertaker and Kane.
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Post by Brad on Aug 28, 2012 17:12:26 GMT -5
it was an interesting raw to watch, that's for sure. I only barely remember it. I would love to see it again.
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Post by specterkev on Sept 6, 2012 21:57:58 GMT -5
I thoguht Buff got fired because he talked trash to shane helms and started a fight.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Sept 6, 2012 23:08:14 GMT -5
It's stunning to me that WWF torpedoed the idea of having a separate WCW brand because of one freaking match. There have been worse main events.
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