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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 17:54:35 GMT -5
Sabin's signed long term with TNA. As I've said many times before, he is TNA's baby, much like AJ Styles, he isn't going anywhere. Also the Shelley signing is fake, he's leaving to work for New Japan on the 29th. He can't sign with the WWE either his 90 day no compete clause isn't finished yet. The two most well used guys make the perfect examples. When both men were signed, we got the now classic line "WWE won't use them right." I love Shelley, and hpe to see big things, but i's not like he is exactly would champion material. And least not yet. You want to talk about other indys stars? Evan Bourne has been featured as a big star numerous times but has ed himself over. Thats his fault. Tyler Black? Dude has been "developing" for a while, yes, but he is being booked great for FCW/NXT. When he does get called up I'm sure big things will come from him. Cesaro is going to be the next US champion and has a decent streak going. Kendrick and London? File them in the Bourne boat, because they were both ups. Haven't heard much about Hero/Ohno so I can't comment on him. Point is, every indy/internet darling can't be a big star. Simple as that. But they have the ability to be, and are partially responsible for how well they do. I'm sick of the WWE won't use them right. They did right by Punk and Bryan. If you have such a distaste for WWE not using your favorites "right" then why watch? Don't start this argument, you picked the two guys who did best. Also, Kendrick and London stated many times they only became -ups after they got demoted and creative gave them nothing. Now let me show examples that WWE did poorly with. Those are just a few. I'll give you Colt Cabana and Kaval but that's it. Also, mentioning Teddy Hart is plain idiotic. It's been stated many times that he has attitude problems and pretty s things up for himself.
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Post by noir on Aug 19, 2012 18:22:36 GMT -5
I definitely remember an interview after Low Ki/ Kaval had been released (I want to think it was on Colt Cabana's podcast but I may be wrong), and he said that the WWE had basically told him he's gonna be a lower card guy for at least a few years and he's going to have to slowly work his way up and prove himself. At which point, HE asked for his release as he didn't feel like it was worth it. WWE have ed up in the past, but this one was pretty much all on Low Ki. And I had NO idea Christopher Daniels ever came into contact with WWE. Anyone able to educate me on that one? I've always considered him the to be the most underrated wrestler ever (I like to think in some parallel universe he's headlining Wrestlemania). Sucks that his boat has probably already sailed, because I legit think he's one of the best all round guys in the business.
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Post by Jord on Aug 19, 2012 18:26:57 GMT -5
I definitely remember an interview after Low Ki/ Kaval had been released (I want to think it was on Colt Cabana's podcast but I may be wrong), and he said that the WWE had basically told him he's gonna be a lower card guy for at least a few years and he's going to have to slowly work his way up and prove himself. At which point, HE asked for his release as he didn't feel like it was worth it. WWE have ed up in the past, but this one was pretty much all on Low Ki. And I had NO idea Christopher Daniels ever came into contact with WWE. Anyone able to educate me on that one? I've always considered him the more underrated wrestler ever I like to think in some parallel universe he's headlining Wrestlemania. Sucks that his boat has probably already sailed, because I legit think he's one of the best all round pro wrestlers ever. He wrestled a few matches on Heat years ago but was never actually under contract.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 18:29:29 GMT -5
Sabin's signed long term with TNA. As I've said many times before, he is TNA's baby, much like AJ Styles, he isn't going anywhere. Also the Shelley signing is fake, he's leaving to work for New Japan on the 29th. He can't sign with the WWE either his 90 day no compete clause isn't finished yet. The two most well used guys make the perfect examples. When both men were signed, we got the now classic line "WWE won't use them right." I love Shelley, and hpe to see big things, but i's not like he is exactly would champion material. And least not yet. You want to talk about other indys stars? Evan Bourne has been featured as a big star numerous times but has ed himself over. Thats his fault. Tyler Black? Dude has been "developing" for a while, yes, but he is being booked great for FCW/NXT. When he does get called up I'm sure big things will come from him. Cesaro is going to be the next US champion and has a decent streak going. Kendrick and London? File them in the Bourne boat, because they were both ups. Haven't heard much about Hero/Ohno so I can't comment on him. Point is, every indy/internet darling can't be a big star. Simple as that. But they have the ability to be, and are partially responsible for how well they do. I'm sick of the WWE won't use them right. They did right by Punk and Bryan. If you have such a distaste for WWE not using your favorites "right" then why watch? Don't start this argument, you picked the two guys who did best. Also, Kendrick and London stated many times they only became -ups after they got demoted and creative gave them nothing. Now let me show examples that WWE did poorly with. Those are just a few. It was never my attention to start a fight, just me stating that I don't believe we need the arguement that WWE desn't use anyone right. I'll agree with you on Cabana. The guy is great. But they never saw him as anything more than a comedy act, something they already had tons of. Teddy Hart is a bad example as he is responisble for everything that happened to him. He is a complete douche. Daniels was never under contract if I remember correctly. He was given a few tryouts. And at the time he wasn't what they were looking for. Don't forget, they used Joe too. Kaz, while the reason is stupid, didn't want to change when they wanted him to. Lynn was hired during the Invasion. He was more of an ECW guy than an indy guy. They didnt use anyone in ECW right during the invasion unless they were the Dudleys or Van Damm. Low Ki is debatable. He was being used. He had a hell of a match vs Dibiase I think. It was his decision to leave. And I remember hearing it was based on schedule and how the WWE ran. He wasn't a fan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 18:31:31 GMT -5
Ki has horrible attitude problems behind the curtains. Ask any NJ/PA/NY promoter, anyone who's worked a show with him, or anyone that had to share a locker room with him in ROH and TNA.
The guy knows he's good, but it's only hurt him.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Aug 25, 2012 2:19:15 GMT -5
Didn't new reports come saying that Shelley is still in serious negotiations with the WWE?
Hopefully he does sign and get a push, If he is patient and works his way up he could turn out like Punk/Bryan.
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