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Post by marino13 on Aug 26, 2012 16:22:32 GMT -5
For the most part I think WWE has had great in ring work lately. Some very good matches on RAW, SD, & the PPV the last few months. And at the end of the day that is why I watch in the first place.
It's amazing how good it can be when ya just sit back and watch instead of looking for something to bitch about. Maybe more people should try it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 16:22:39 GMT -5
Bret Hart didnt get the nick name the excellence of execution by accident i have watched videos of Bret talking about how u could make something look really good and stiff without hurting someone. The saftey stuff i do understand but come on from even 6 years ago to now there is a big difference in matches and quality. Any of the older guys who where trainers and trained guys to wrestle would be rolling over in their graves come on now its wrestling. I just boggles my mind sometimes you have to be aggressive in your sport look at high school or collage wrestling look at what they do just toss some one down on a gym room floor, Thats whats wrong no one if tough anymore everyone wants to act tough but they are pu$$ies and cry like a little girl with a skinned knee.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 26, 2012 18:20:58 GMT -5
I think match quality has gone up in the last year or so. but I credit that to guys like Punk and Bryan being involved.
It's not perfect now, but we still get some very good matches. Is it better than the 80s or 90s? I don't know, but i know that I've been enjoying more lately than I have in a few years, so that's a good thing at least.
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Post by MacReady on Aug 26, 2012 18:25:50 GMT -5
Aren't you like 14 years old? You have no basis of comparison to say that it's better now than it was before.
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Aug 26, 2012 18:27:48 GMT -5
...Dude.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Aug 26, 2012 20:27:12 GMT -5
Not really. The quality of in ring work in the 90s was far superior to now. I am going to go out on a limb and say I believe the in ring work from 2000-2005 was just as good, if not better than it was in the 90's. And as to the original question there are to many squashes to really tell. The main events, though, have greatly improved from 2007-2010.
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Post by J12 on Aug 26, 2012 20:30:50 GMT -5
I find the competitive in-ring work on weekly TV to be vastly superior to the Attitude Era, without question.
That isn't including the ridiculous squash garbage we've been getting in the last several months, though. There's no excuse for that.
As far as Pay-Per-Views go, I think both eras can be held in pretty high regard.
Again, I think a lot of the favoritism has to do with blind nostalgia for the Attitude Era. Titles had more prestige, the mid-card had story development, and most of us were pretty damn young. Take those three factors into consideration and the package, as a whole, sounds far more appealing. When boiled down strictly to the wrestling, though, then I think there is a discussion to be had.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Aug 26, 2012 20:38:09 GMT -5
LOL are you serious? I would hardly call squash matches that you know whos gonna win good and there are also too many safety rules in todays WWE. If you want to watch good wrestling check out TNA or WWE or WCW from the 90's. I would disagreed entirely. Last Thursday was the first time I watched Impact in a long time and in all honest I found it extremely boring. Everything except for the Triple Threat and Anderson vs Ray were either really boring or really stupid. WCW was only good for the Cruiserweight and some Mid-card with a few exceptions in the Main Event (i.e. Goldberg, Sting) past 1994.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Aug 26, 2012 22:34:27 GMT -5
If you think about it with these wrestlers being more in shape and less beat up due to no hardcore matches every week and the fact that they have to rely on pure wrestling ability alot of the time, i believe match quality has improved so much, thoughts? No, match quality in WWE has diminished considerably. It isn't just the removal of dangerous high spots. The staples of WWE TV right now are short, generic matches for the undercard. We get the occasional gem ala Punk-Cena MITB '11, but that's the exception rather than the rule.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 22:40:15 GMT -5
This reminds me does anyone know when the PG era might end I'm sick of recording Raw so I can walk out half way through and wait another few days to finish the last half
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 22:58:47 GMT -5
I don't see how an era can make a good match but ok...
I just think the biggest issue with today is everybody wrestles the same.
They all come from the same place and the same developmental territory.
There is now a "WWE style" and in years before that didn't always exist.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Aug 27, 2012 0:51:28 GMT -5
Certainly not in the 90's the ring work was much better than now. All you see in this era are punches, kicks and body slams no good moves anymore due to this safety crap.
Back in the 90's aswell wrestlers earned everything but now they are just given titles. I agree, it's really ridiculous how the WWE is starting to care about their workers health and safety. WE WANTS MOR BLOODZ!!!! ![::)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/rolleyes.gif) Hahahahahaha, that's hilarious ;D WWE iz gay witout blood! Bring bak Termmeh Dreamer, hez hardcere!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 0:55:36 GMT -5
Just like any era a match's quality depends on the people involved and the booking.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 27, 2012 8:56:06 GMT -5
I find the competitive in-ring work on weekly TV to be vastly superior to the Attitude Era, without question. That isn't including the ridiculous squash garbage we've been getting in the last several months, though. There's no excuse for that. As far as Pay-Per-Views go, I think both eras can be held in pretty high regard. Again, I think a lot of the favoritism has to do with blind nostalgia for the Attitude Era. Titles had more prestige, the mid-card had story development, and most of us were pretty damn young. Take those three factors into consideration and the package, as a whole, sounds far more appealing. When boiled down strictly to the wrestling, though, then I think there is a discussion to be had. Genius! And I couldn't agree more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 9:42:52 GMT -5
This reminds me does anyone know when the PG era might end I'm sick of recording Raw so I can walk out half way through and wait another few days to finish the last half PG has absolutely nothing to do with this. It's called bad writing and booking. Simple as that.
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Post by wabarrett on Aug 27, 2012 10:09:26 GMT -5
I find the competitive in-ring work on weekly TV to be vastly superior to the Attitude Era, without question. That isn't including the ridiculous squash garbage we've been getting in the last several months, though. There's no excuse for that. As far as Pay-Per-Views go, I think both eras can be held in pretty high regard. Again, I think a lot of the favoritism has to do with blind nostalgia for the Attitude Era. Titles had more prestige, the mid-card had story development, and most of us were pretty damn young. Take those three factors into consideration and the package, as a whole, sounds far more appealing. When boiled down strictly to the wrestling, though, then I think there is a discussion to be had. Spot on. I want to add, 2011 (in my opinion) was one of the best, if not the best, year(s) of WWE programming ever in terms of great wrestling matches. Nearly every week on RAW and on Smackdown, we were being treated to a PPV-quality match.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 10:13:34 GMT -5
I find the competitive in-ring work on weekly TV to be vastly superior to the Attitude Era, without question. That isn't including the ridiculous squash garbage we've been getting in the last several months, though. There's no excuse for that. As far as Pay-Per-Views go, I think both eras can be held in pretty high regard. Again, I think a lot of the favoritism has to do with blind nostalgia for the Attitude Era. Titles had more prestige, the mid-card had story development, and most of us were pretty damn young. Take those three factors into consideration and the package, as a whole, sounds far more appealing. When boiled down strictly to the wrestling, though, then I think there is a discussion to be had. Spot on. I want to add, 2011 (in my opinion) was one of the best, if not the best, year(s) of WWE programming ever in terms of great wrestling matches. Nearly every week on RAW and on Smackdown, we were being treated to a PPV-quality match. A bit off topic but I could go on forever on why 2011 was so awesome.
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Post by wabarrett on Aug 27, 2012 13:47:11 GMT -5
Spot on. I want to add, 2011 (in my opinion) was one of the best, if not the best, year(s) of WWE programming ever in terms of great wrestling matches. Nearly every week on RAW and on Smackdown, we were being treated to a PPV-quality match. A bit off topic but I could go on forever on why 2011 was so awesome. Likewise. And I will. =P From the CM Punk pipebomb, to Barrett and Orton brawling across the arena in December, Kevin Nash' surprise return at Summerslam, the whole MITB PPV, Triple H vs. Undertaker at Mania 27, Bryan's cash-in for the World Title, Orton and Christian's series of awesome matches, Mark Henry's dominance, Del Rio's rise, Sheamus' Face turn, Triple H becoming COO and the walkout storyline, Kane's return under the mask. God I have so many fresh, fond memories of 2011.
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Post by nwoblackandred4l on Aug 27, 2012 13:59:02 GMT -5
A bit off topic but I could go on forever on why 2011 was so awesome. Likewise. And I will. =P From the CM Punk pipebomb, to Barrett and Orton brawling across the arena in December, Kevin Nash' surprise return at Summerslam, the whole MITB PPV, Triple H vs. Undertaker at Mania 27, Bryan's cash-in for the World Title, Orton and Christian's series of awesome matches, Mark Henry's dominance, Del Rio's rise, Sheamus' Face turn, Triple H becoming COO and the walkout storyline, Kane's return under the mask. God I have so many fresh, fond memories of 2011. I must admit 2011 was a great year and much better than crappy 2009 & 2010.
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