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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 10:48:29 GMT -5
In case anyone missed these comments from HHH excerpted from a Sirius Radio (Busted Open) interview, nearly one year ago: "We had pushed the envelope so far and you get to a point that after a while, its like, Vince will always use this expression, even though it was completely irrelevant from a timeframe standpoint, but we had "Chainsaw Charlie". Where do you go after a guy with a chainsaw? But there is a certain point and time where you heard all this stuff on TV you have to pull it back to a point where it almost becomes sterile to get back to a point where you can begin to touch the envelope again where people go "OOH! Like we made it so sterile, like when CM Punk said Ass for the first time, people were like "Oh My God, he said ass!" Where ass was said every 4 seconds for a while. We have to pull it back. Will we ever get where we were before? No, because the world has changed.
"I just don't think you can kind of do that programming now, with the way that the world is. We will never get back all the way there. But I think there is definitely a huge gap between where we were and where we went to. But I think for the right reasons. You have to get to a point where you almost sterilize it to make it seem edgy again. If you just back it off a little bit, it kind of seems a little watered down. So we just took it to where it needed to go to get it back to where it needed to be." My brain hurts after reading this. But I think what he is trying to say is "if WWE pushes the envelope on its PG raring every week, then it will become tiresome and repetitive, but if they only do it a couple of times a year, it would be more entertaining". Can't disagree with the Chaperone right there , it's good for WWE and the fans.
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 4, 2012 10:48:31 GMT -5
I don't see anything being affected at all. Look at TNA they're TV14 and their figures don't sell well at all. Every store practically carries WWE products but little to no TNA products.
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Post by tampatoys813 on Sept 4, 2012 11:39:15 GMT -5
Mrhoss, Im glad you posted that. It makes a great deal of sense.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 11:45:54 GMT -5
I don't see anything being affected at all. Look at TNA they're TV14 and their figures don't sell well at all. Every store practically carries WWE products but little to no TNA products. No, I was just worried that if WWE go back to TV-14 then Mattel, being a child friendly company, would not want to be affiliated with WWE.
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Post by lestial12 on Sept 4, 2012 12:12:10 GMT -5
I think this issue is a really a mute point because if WWE decides to change ratings (which i do not see happening anytime soon, also side note a lot of attitude Era stuff was still rated PG) Mattel has two options: A) Keep making the figures (and the $ that comes with that) or B) decide not to make the figures anymore, thus breaching their contract and losing some serious cash. I think the choice is clear.
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Post by mrhoss on Sept 4, 2012 12:21:44 GMT -5
My brain hurts after reading this. But I think what he is trying to say is "if WWE pushes the envelope on its PG raring every week, then it will become tiresome and repetitive, but if they only do it a couple of times a year, it would be more entertaining". Can't disagree with the Chaperone right there , it's good for WWE and the fans. ;D Yeah, that was a tough read. I almost deleted it before posting because it looked like a wall of text.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 13:13:38 GMT -5
The TV-PG rating forces WWE to be smart when crafting storylines a la CM PUNK. If you can just swear and bleed it just becomes stagnant and unimaginative.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 4, 2012 14:32:13 GMT -5
B) decide not to make the figures anymore, thus breaching their contract and losing some serious cash. False. If WWE suddenly started doing tawdry, blood-and-sex with profanity, they would be breaching the terms of their contracts. Not only with Mattel, but also with all the other companies that have opted to partner with the cleaned-up WWE. When Daniel Bryan choked Justin Roberts with the tie and Mattel suits got upset, who got fired? Daniel Bryan or the Mattel suits? When Finlay sent Miz out to interrupt the national anthem and the National Guard got upset, who got fired? WWE has a responsibility to these companies and deals. They can't just go "WE'RE GOING BACK 2 ATTITUDE ERA CUZ KIDS ON THE INTERNET WANT IT, SCREW U MATTEL N POST FOODS LOL."
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Post by lestial12 on Sept 4, 2012 17:28:03 GMT -5
That's the most idiotic comparison ever. Its WWE's product. Not Mattels. And the Bryan thing caused an uproar because it was only 3 years after the Benoit tragedy. Finlay sending Miz out was a bad call.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 21:26:41 GMT -5
B) decide not to make the figures anymore, thus breaching their contract and losing some serious cash. False. If WWE suddenly started doing tawdry, blood-and-sex with profanity, they would be breaching the terms of their contracts. Not only with Mattel, but also with all the other companies that have opted to partner with the cleaned-up WWE. When Daniel Bryan choked Justin Roberts with the tie and Mattel suits got upset, who got fired? Daniel Bryan or the Mattel suits? When Finlay sent Miz out to interrupt the national anthem and the National Guard got upset, who got fired? WWE has a responsibility to these companies and deals. They can't just go "WE'RE GOING BACK 2 ATTITUDE ERA CUZ KIDS ON THE INTERNET WANT IT, SCREW U MATTEL N POST FOODS LOL." I thought Mattel saudi they had nothing to do with the Daniel Bryan tie incident?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 4, 2012 21:38:26 GMT -5
That's the most idiotic comparison ever. Its WWE's product. Not Mattels. And the Bryan thing caused an uproar because it was only 3 years after the Benoit tragedy. Finlay sending Miz out was a bad call. You don't understand how things work, and that's fine. You can have your fantasy that WWE can just tell all their corporate partners to screw off and do whatever they want with no consequences. But in the real world, WWE has to keep the likes of Mattel, Post Foods and the National Guard sweet. And a huge part of that is keeping the product family friendly. I thought Mattel saudi they had nothing to do with the Daniel Bryan tie incident? I don't recall Mattel saying that, but whether it was specifically Mattel or not, Bryan was given a token firing because WWE worried about the negative publicity and lost deals/sponsorships that might result if they appeared to accept/endorse his actions by doing nothing.
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Post by airbud on Sept 4, 2012 21:48:27 GMT -5
Not sure why everyone thinks if WWE is TV-14 again it's all of a sudden going to be like the Attitude Era. The Attitude era had all around better booking. If you like cussing, crude storylines, and bladejobs, then TNA is right for you, and we all know that show is awful.
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Post by realjuicewinslow on Sept 4, 2012 22:27:40 GMT -5
False. If WWE suddenly started doing tawdry, blood-and-sex with profanity, they would be breaching the terms of their contracts. Not only with Mattel, but also with all the other companies that have opted to partner with the cleaned-up WWE. When Daniel Bryan choked Justin Roberts with the tie and Mattel suits got upset, who got fired? Daniel Bryan or the Mattel suits? When Finlay sent Miz out to interrupt the national anthem and the National Guard got upset, who got fired? WWE has a responsibility to these companies and deals. They can't just go "WE'RE GOING BACK 2 ATTITUDE ERA CUZ KIDS ON THE INTERNET WANT IT, SCREW U MATTEL N POST FOODS LOL." I thought Mattel saudi they had nothing to do with the Daniel Bryan tie incident? Yes, you are correct they did say that. Y'all need to stop reading dirtsheets.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Sept 4, 2012 22:48:55 GMT -5
Wishful thinking. They will never return to TV-14 again. If you don't like the current product don't watch it. These people living in the past need to move on or grow up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2012 2:43:25 GMT -5
Wishful thinking. They will never return to TV-14 again. If you don't like the current product don't watch it. These people living in the past need to move on or grow up. That's not what my thread is even about! I'm Not complaining that u want wwe to be TV-14 or anything. What my question is: of wwe ever decide to go back to the TV-14 rating, would Mattel, being a child friendly company, want to stop making their figures?
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