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Post by JC Motors on Sept 4, 2012 21:28:38 GMT -5
I never buy doubles of one figure. The only way I buy doubles if it is a Hot Wheels car that is based on a movie or TV car that I will keep MOC. Scalping and eBay ruined the collecting market
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Post by airbud on Sept 4, 2012 21:34:07 GMT -5
Scalpers are a bunch of duck****s that ruin everything for collectors.
They ruined my childhood when I was collecting Starting Lineups, and they've pretty much made me give up on buying figures all together. I have a total of two WWE Mattel figures (a Daniel Bryan and a CM Punk).
I'm an adult now living in NYC. I can afford whatever figures I want, but I refuse to pay ridiculous amounts to a scalper, based on principle. It's like donating to cancer. If you happen to see several Elite Punks, Nashs, and Yoko's, buy what you're collecting, but leave the rest for the other collectors to find. It's called having some fukking courtesy you fucckin dickwads. Collectors would do just fine collecting without scalpers raping the supply at 8AM on weekday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 21:40:38 GMT -5
I don't get it... Everyone gets up so early just to go to their Walmart, Kmart, TRU etc and get the latest figures.
Instead of wasting your time and fuel, why can't you guys just ring up the stores you intend on going to beforehand and asking their toy department if they have any of the Elite series (whatever number). Then they can put it on a side for you?
Therefore you will save your time and gas money instead of going to multiple places and finding nothing
That's what I do
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 4, 2012 21:46:16 GMT -5
Instead of wasting your time and fuel, why can't you guys just ring up the stores you intend on going to beforehand and asking their toy department if they have any of the Elite series (whatever number). Then they can put it on a side for you? Therefore you will save your time and gas money instead of going to multiple places and finding nothing That's what I do You must be extremely lucky with the store workers you speak to on the phone. In a lot of shops in the UK, they don't even answer the phone half the time, and if they do, sometimes they'll give you wrong info. From what I can gather, it's even worse in the US.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 21:50:55 GMT -5
Instead of wasting your time and fuel, why can't you guys just ring up the stores you intend on going to beforehand and asking their toy department if they have any of the Elite series (whatever number). Then they can put it on a side for you? Therefore you will save your time and gas money instead of going to multiple places and finding nothing That's what I do You must be extremely lucky with the store workers you speak to on the phone. In a lot of shops in the UK, they don't even answer the phone half the time, and if they do, sometimes they'll give you wrong info. From what I can gather, it's even worse in the US. I live in Australia so it's the other way around, good employees but no figures. Where as you guys have bad employees but a buttload of good figures
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Post by BCizzle on Sept 4, 2012 22:02:57 GMT -5
Let me just start by saying this topic is for discussion only. I am neither endorsing nor rationalizing scalpers, however………. And then you go on a big long rant endorsing and rationalizing scalping. Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Well yeah. Why do you have to buy it if all you are going to do is sell it? You could just leave it at the store for someone who actually did want one. It actually makes me a little happy when I find a hard-to-find fig on shelves. I saw the Bellas for only the second time the other day, and I hoped somebody who really wanted them would get them. But I guess I was supposed to grab them and try to squeeze every last nickel and dime outta somebody - I must be un-American.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Sept 4, 2012 22:23:36 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with someone who buys a hot figure every now and then to trade on here or to make a little profit on from eBay... what does upset me is when people buy 25 of the same Zack Ryder figure in a month and then claim not to be a scalper. I don't care if you kept one or two of them for yourself... you're selling 90% of what you buy. That makes you a scalper and it makes collecting extremely difficult and expensive for the majority of collectors on here.
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Post by satas on Sept 4, 2012 22:27:56 GMT -5
I kinda laugh at this whole discussion. I'm 30, i've been around the block, I've seen it before. I buy figures for myself, that I want. I make enough money at work that i don't need the extra 20 bucks i can make buying multiples and ebaying. I also have a flexible enough schedule that i can hit up multiple stores in a week to get the figures i want without resorting to ebay. I guess the folks supporting scalping have low paying jobs, or can't afford to buy their own toys without reselling, that seems to be the case around around my local area.
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Post by christhegreat on Sept 4, 2012 22:29:11 GMT -5
The difference is while T0y W1z does have accounts with the toy companies they send people to all the stores in a good 50 mile radius and clean them out of anything that is "hot" or "popular" at the moment. They then about every other month they take all the pegwamers that they get in their shipments and dump them at the 2 closest area Targets. That is business. They do have Mattel accounts and other figure company accounts. I know this for a fact because they still manage to get some figures in advance months before they hit retail. They only seem to do this with any in store exclusives, going to the store to pick them up so they have everything to sell on there site. Hey when something is hot and going to sell, you can't blame someone for helping others out. I can't make it to toys r us, and most times, i rely on the TW to get those exclusives in stock asap so i can pick them up at a reasonable price, and that they do. There human just like the rest of us and running a business. If I was running a business like that too, and something was not selling after a while, I would dump it off also so my money is not so tied up constantly. I don't think he is doing what your saying though and buying from a Toys R us and returning them to a target because to do this, you would need a receipt from target to exchange the item back. On top of that, you only have 30 days to return an item and that's hardly any time to post it up online and see if it will sell. All I'm saying is they take a lot of heat from ppl much like RSC does and both are legit American businesses working the market to make money. Sure they are out to help there customers, and keep there business so that they keep coming back to buy more, but most importantly they got bills to pay and mouths to feed too. There not businesses made on helping everyone out for free.
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Post by satas on Sept 4, 2012 22:41:33 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but when a normal business "dumps something off that isn't selling" they put it on clearance, they don't return it to the legitimate retail business they bought it from. Its 0 risk, sometimes reward, which is not what our capitalist system is built off of. Also, you can't spell worth a damn.
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Post by mrhoss on Sept 4, 2012 22:42:39 GMT -5
I have no idea if they do this but TW can go to Target and buy all the hot Elites. Now they have a receipt. Since all the dpci numbers for elites are the same, they can use that receipt to return their unwanted figs. Target's return policy is 90 days.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Sept 4, 2012 22:48:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but when a normal business "dumps something off that isn't selling" they put it on clearance, they don't return it to the legitimate retail business they bought it from. Its 0 risk, sometimes reward, which is not what our capitalist system is built off of. Also, you can't spell worth a damn. That's not even what they're doing. They're buying the hot figures at Target, selling them, buying cases online, and returning the Ortons and Del Rios from those sets using the Target receipts. It's illegal. Targets don't distinguish one figure from the other as long as they're in the same line.
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Post by Labeled101 on Sept 4, 2012 23:15:14 GMT -5
Scalpers are the modern day plague.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Sept 4, 2012 23:20:02 GMT -5
Before I came to WFigs, I had never heard of flipping a collectible for profit referred to with the negative connotation of "scalping". The process is commonplace (and has been for decades) in various collectible markets like sports cards, comic books, barbies, matchbox cars, etc.
In the last year, I've purchased 7 or 8 hot WWE figures with the sole purpose of flipping them. I then use the money to buy other figures I want since I no longer collect WWE merchandise. Call that "scalping" if you will, I call it smart collecting.
I've been on the other end, too. I've searched for a certain figure before giving up and getting it online for more ( in some cases, much more) than the original retail. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes the other guy gets lucky. It all balances out.
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Post by peghound on Sept 4, 2012 23:37:37 GMT -5
After 10 trips and $4.35/gallon gas I went to my TRU today and came across 3 Natalya's that were put out on the cube. I'm going to trade them on this site for similar valued figs. I feel great about it.
I hope I'm not making any enemies because I'm new around here but everyone should think about how EVERYTHING works. It's all based on margins and profit. Think about gas, food, your pay, your lodging...everything. You can't boycott everything because a profit is made. World would crumble.
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Post by airbud on Sept 4, 2012 23:42:05 GMT -5
In the last year, I've purchased 7 or 8 hot WWE figures with the sole purpose of flipping them. I then use the money to buy other figures I want since I no longer collect WWE merchandise. Call that "scalping" if you will, I call it smart collecting. Yeah, that's scalping. Hmmm... if you're that hard up for cash you should try picking out receipts out of McDonalds trash cans, then go inside and tell the workers they messed up your order to get free food. You can call that "smart dining." Then you can go to Walmart and give your mom $100 credit in your food stamps in exchange for $50 cash and then call it "smart shopping." Hope that helps with your figure budget.
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Post by airbud on Sept 4, 2012 23:44:24 GMT -5
After 10 trips and $4.35/gallon gas I went to my TRU today and came across 3 Natalya's that were put out on the cube. I'm going to trade them on this site for similar valued figs. I feel great about it. I hope I'm not making any enemies because I'm new around here but everyone should think about how EVERYTHING works. It's all based on margins and profit. Think about gas, food, your pay, your lodging...everything. You can't boycott everything because a profit is made. World would crumble. Are you 12? Where are you lodging during these epic figure hunts?
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Sept 5, 2012 0:01:16 GMT -5
In the last year, I've purchased 7 or 8 hot WWE figures with the sole purpose of flipping them. I then use the money to buy other figures I want since I no longer collect WWE merchandise. Call that "scalping" if you will, I call it smart collecting. Yeah, that's scalping. Hmmm... if you're that hard up for cash you should try picking out receipts out of McDonalds trash cans, then go inside and tell the workers they messed up your order to get free food. You can call that "smart dining."
Then you can go to Walmart and give your mom $100 credit in your food stamps in exchange for $50 cash and then call it "smart shopping."Hope that helps with your figure budget. Those are more along the lines of a switcheroo, which is ultimately stealing. I have no problem with a free market flip, but no five-finger discounts. And if I was hard up for cash, figure collecting wouldn't be in the equation. It's not like you can eat an Elite or wash your pits with a Defining Moments, although it would be cool too see someone try.
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Post by peghound on Sept 5, 2012 0:08:17 GMT -5
Lodging? What does that have to do with anything? After 10 trips and $4.35/gallon gas I went to my TRU today and came across 3 Natalya's that were put out on the cube. I'm going to trade them on this site for similar valued figs. I feel great about it. I hope I'm not making any enemies because I'm new around here but everyone should think about how EVERYTHING works. It's all based on margins and profit. Think about gas, food, your pay, your lodging...everything. You can't boycott everything because a profit is made. World would crumble. Are you 12? Where are you lodging during these epic figure hunts?
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Post by airbud on Sept 5, 2012 0:10:33 GMT -5
Yeah, that's scalping. Hmmm... if you're that hard up for cash you should try picking out receipts out of McDonalds trash cans, then go inside and tell the workers they messed up your order to get free food. You can call that "smart dining."
Then you can go to Walmart and give your mom $100 credit in your food stamps in exchange for $50 cash and then call it "smart shopping."Hope that helps with your figure budget. Those are more along the lines of a switcheroo, which is ultimately stealing. I have no problem with a free market flip, but no five-finger discounts. And if I was hard up for cash, figure collecting wouldn't be in the equation. It's not like you can eat an Elite or wash your pits with a Defining Moments, although it would be cool too see someone try. Lol. I'm happy you didn't take offense to my post. I think you'd be surprised at how far a few Elite Nash's could get someone who is living at their parents house with no bills to pay. They may not be able to eat the physical Elite figure, but use the money to eat McDoubles for the next six months.
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