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Post by 859approved on Sept 30, 2012 22:14:00 GMT -5
For the most part everyone agrees that Michael Jordan was the best basketball player ever. There's not many arguments against it. He had a picture perfect ending with a game winner to win his 6th Championship, and retired, saying that he was %99.99 sure he was done. In 2001 he announced after months of speculation he would come out of retirement to join the Wizards. After a two year run, Michael retired one last time in 2003.
I've always been a Jordan fan. What kid of the 90's & early 00's wasn't? My question is this:
Do you support Jordan's comeback run with the Wizards or do you think he should have stayed retired and your reasoning for your choice.
For me, I support it. It was another opportunity to see Jordan play, and although he wasn't the same dominant MJ, he proved he still had it, as Rocky Balboa said, "It isn't over till its over." He averaged 16-22 points on his return, even erupting for 40+ several times, scoring 51 on one occasion. He even proved he could still fly, even if it wasn't as high, and could still leave everyone hanging with a game winning last second shot. So for me, I approve of it.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Oct 1, 2012 7:16:43 GMT -5
As much as I enjoyed it at the time, I do my best to pretend it never happened.
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Post by the franchise on Oct 1, 2012 14:11:17 GMT -5
It didn't bother me personally. I'm still angry that I didn't get tickets to what would turn out to be his final game ever against the Sixers.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Oct 2, 2012 3:41:48 GMT -5
Jordan is Jordan. That is all.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 2, 2012 19:29:55 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. It was a shot of nostalgia for me. After guys like Jordan, Bird, Magic, Ewing and Barkley etc all retired....basketball has never been the same and never will.
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Post by jeffro2000 on Oct 10, 2012 11:18:40 GMT -5
To see Jordan play more was great. His first season, he started playing really well. The Wizards were doing good, and he was one of the leaders for MVP. Body broke down, and that was that.
I wish he would have had an entire career, not the 2 premature retirements. Could have added a couple of more championships. Bulls/Houston finals could had been great.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 15, 2012 19:56:57 GMT -5
Having grown up during the Bulls dominance of the 90s, it was cool and sucked to see him come back. It was cool to see him one more time, but it was like a kick in the face to me and fellow chicago fans when he came back to the Wizards. I remember when he retired in '98 he wanted to be a 50-50 owner w/ Jerry Reinsdorf, and that simply was not going to happen. Reinsdorf wanted him to be a minority owner, and Jordan refused and bolted to a position in the Wizards front office. Chicago gave Jordan everything and he simply turned his back on us when he didn't get his way about the ownership thing. Great to see him back, but it stung as well.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Oct 15, 2012 20:46:40 GMT -5
Having grown up during the Bulls dominance of the 90s, it was cool and sucked to see him come back. It was cool to see him one more time, but it was like a kick in the face to me and fellow chicago fans when he came back to the Wizards. I remember when he retired in '98 he wanted to be a 50-50 owner w/ Jerry Reinsdorf, and that simply was not going to happen. Reinsdorf wanted him to be a minority owner, and Jordan refused and bolted to a position in the Wizards front office. Chicago gave Jordan everything and he simply turned his back on us when he didn't get his way about the ownership thing. Great to see him back, but it stung as well. That is a really strange way to think about it.
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 21, 2012 18:53:26 GMT -5
Jordan was not some marketing brand that got pushed into the lime light like LeBron is. He would have won titles with or without Pippen. His time in Washington was rough because he had no help or time to develop a running mate to help Jordan as he was getting older. It's the same line of thinking I have when I see LeBron now is as good as Jordan was with Washington he needed help to win, and didn't get it.
I'll always view Kevin Durant as the best player in the league because he does it on his own like Jordan. Westbrook is a nice player but not a star.
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Post by Nash on Nov 24, 2012 17:14:12 GMT -5
Having grown up during the Bulls dominance of the 90s, it was cool and sucked to see him come back. It was cool to see him one more time, but it was like a kick in the face to me and fellow chicago fans when he came back to the Wizards. I remember when he retired in '98 he wanted to be a 50-50 owner w/ Jerry Reinsdorf, and that simply was not going to happen. Reinsdorf wanted him to be a minority owner, and Jordan refused and bolted to a position in the Wizards front office. Chicago gave Jordan everything and he simply turned his back on us when he didn't get his way about the ownership thing. Great to see him back, but it stung as well. Speak for yourself, because thats not how I, and many other Bulls fans, see it. As a Bulls fan at heart, I like to pretend Michael's career ended in '98. However I support him in whatever he has done or will do, so yes to answer the question I did support it.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Nov 25, 2012 15:27:38 GMT -5
Jordan was not some marketing brand that got pushed into the lime light like LeBron is. He would have won titles with or without Pippen. His time in Washington was rough because he had no help or time to develop a running mate to help Jordan as he was getting older. It's the same line of thinking I have when I see LeBron now is as good as Jordan was with Washington he needed help to win, and didn't get it. I'll always view Kevin Durant as the best player in the league because he does it on his own like Jordan. Westbrook is a nice player but not a star. LOL
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 26, 2012 19:26:02 GMT -5
Jordan was not some marketing brand that got pushed into the lime light like LeBron is. He would have won titles with or without Pippen. His time in Washington was rough because he had no help or time to develop a running mate to help Jordan as he was getting older. It's the same line of thinking I have when I see LeBron now is as good as Jordan was with Washington he needed help to win, and didn't get it. I'll always view Kevin Durant as the best player in the league because he does it on his own like Jordan. Westbrook is a nice player but not a star. LOL Not so sure what is funny about that statement. Jordan blew up and won titles by himself. LeBron tucked his tail between his legs and abandoned him home town during a television show marketing his brand by ESPN.
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Post by jeffro2000 on Nov 27, 2012 13:06:58 GMT -5
Not so sure what is funny about that statement. Jordan blew up and won titles by himself. LeBron tucked his tail between his legs and abandoned him home town during a television show marketing his brand by ESPN. I think it is more so for the marketing comment. Jordan was marketed like no other athlete in history. He was the first, Tiger is the only comparable one since him. I am not disagreeing with you about Lebron and Jordan. I feel that Pippen was an overrated player to some extent, but still very very good, and all time great defender.
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 27, 2012 22:30:49 GMT -5
Not so sure what is funny about that statement. Jordan blew up and won titles by himself. LeBron tucked his tail between his legs and abandoned him home town during a television show marketing his brand by ESPN. I think it is more so for the marketing comment. Jordan was marketed like no other athlete in history. He was the first, Tiger is the only comparable one since him. I am not disagreeing with you about Lebron and Jordan. I feel that Pippen was an overrated player to some extent, but still very very good, and all time great defender. I'm saying Jordan's on court career blew up and then he was marketed. LeBron got it from the time he was a sophomore in high school. He's earned nothing.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Nov 27, 2012 22:58:19 GMT -5
I think it is more so for the marketing comment. Jordan was marketed like no other athlete in history. He was the first, Tiger is the only comparable one since him. I am not disagreeing with you about Lebron and Jordan. I feel that Pippen was an overrated player to some extent, but still very very good, and all time great defender. I'm saying Jordan's on court career blew up and then he was marketed. LeBron got it from the time he was a sophomore in high school. He's earned nothing. Well for one thing, Jordan was marketed as the #1 guy before he was ever clearly the best player in basketball. And for another, LeBron has basically lived up to the hype. He's been the best player in the league for five years and is showing no signs of slowing down. Maybe he used to be overhyped, but he's surpassed most expectations.
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Post by chubbybookins on Nov 28, 2012 0:27:10 GMT -5
Yea right Kobe is way better
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 28, 2012 18:51:11 GMT -5
I'm saying Jordan's on court career blew up and then he was marketed. LeBron got it from the time he was a sophomore in high school. He's earned nothing. Well for one thing, Jordan was marketed as the #1 guy before he was ever clearly the best player in basketball. And for another, LeBron has basically lived up to the hype. He's been the best player in the league for five years and is showing no signs of slowing down. Maybe he used to be overhyped, but he's surpassed most expectations. Completely disagree here. Jordan's numbers were better than most in the league with the exception of the year he broke his wrist(or hand can't remember). He also was showing signs of growing into being a better player than Magic and Bird. LeBron was a kid who couldn't even drive a car in Ohio because he wasn't old enough and the hype train had left the station. He has not matched the hype he got. Had he won in Cleveland by himself than maybe his hype was met. But he's been quite the disappointment as both a person and a so called once in a generation athlete. He's not even the best player in the league right now.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jan 5, 2013 3:13:57 GMT -5
It was interesting but a lot of ppl don't even mention his wiz yrs
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Post by Nathan from Aus on Jan 16, 2013 17:27:36 GMT -5
Doesn't bother me at all. What bothers me is that there was whispers of him making a comback for the Bobcats when they were struggling last year.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jan 18, 2013 1:27:12 GMT -5
I always felt one of the main reasons Jordan came back was to help Kwame Brown who Jordan took under his wing. It ended up being a waste of time for Jordan as far as helping that kid went.
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