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Post by Elliot on Apr 21, 2013 17:02:41 GMT -5
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Post by Rated R on Apr 21, 2013 17:17:32 GMT -5
Dude, those messages were full troll. You never go full troll.
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Post by ndqw on Apr 21, 2013 17:30:01 GMT -5
I admit I got a little worked up, but I wasn't trying to incite anything, which is what I thought a troll did. Maybe the messages were a little bad but it really has nothing to do with the thread being locked situation. I was pretty much arguing with myself for the most part since he didn't give an example of the sim breaking a written rule.
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Post by Rated R on Apr 21, 2013 17:36:59 GMT -5
The role of a mod isn't just to follow the written rules, but to exert judgment based on common sense. Your diary was inciting spam, that alone is enough to warrant the thread being locked as would any other thread that incites spam. RD gave you his reasons for why it was locked, and there's little arguing that the entire thread seemed troll-esque from the start, and every other person seems to agree that he made the right decision. Just because you don't does not mean he isn't doing his job properly.
Look at me, being the voice of logic.
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Post by ndqw on Apr 21, 2013 18:06:41 GMT -5
I can't control other people spamming the thread, however, if he thinks the spam is getting out of hand he can remind members of the rules for feedback. My thread is just like any other thread when it gets to the meat of it and really should be treated like one. I don't mind if a rule is added that discourages my writing style or something like that. My thread being locked because "it's rubbish" or "other members are spamming it" things that aren't against the rules is silly. Either make it a rule or unlock the thread, there is no point in continuing to keep the thread locked if the only reason to justify it is people don't like it.
I don't understand what the point of having a set of rules is if you're just going to enforce a different set of rules.
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Post by Elliot on Apr 21, 2013 19:05:59 GMT -5
I can't control other people spamming the thread, however, if he thinks the spam is getting out of hand he can remind members of the rules for feedback. My thread is just like any other thread when it gets to the meat of it and really should be treated like one. I don't mind if a rule is added that discourages my writing style or something like that. My thread being locked because "it's rubbish" or "other members are spamming it" things that aren't against the rules is silly. Either make it a rule or unlock the thread, there is no point in continuing to keep the thread locked if the only reason to justify it is people don't like it. I don't understand what the point of having a set of rules is if you're just going to enforce a different set of rules. Tbh, I agree. It should be in the rules, because nonsensical diaries don't belong here. We encourage originality and uniqueness for sure, but with a relevant explanation and backstory. I've just read your diary for the first time and a few of my brain cells died in the process. You had no layout, no explanation, and part of me thinks, no intention of actually providing a legit diary. I think your best bet is to move on, and try something else that isn't as ridiculous, and earn yourself a position as a respected writer in this section. That's the only way I see this going.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 19:29:31 GMT -5
I can't control other people spamming the thread, however, if he thinks the spam is getting out of hand he can remind members of the rules for feedback. My thread is just like any other thread when it gets to the meat of it and really should be treated like one. I don't mind if a rule is added that discourages my writing style or something like that. My thread being locked because "it's rubbish" or "other members are spamming it" things that aren't against the rules is silly. Either make it a rule or unlock the thread, there is no point in continuing to keep the thread locked if the only reason to justify it is people don't like it. I don't understand what the point of having a set of rules is if you're just going to enforce a different set of rules. Tbh, I agree. It should be in the rules, because nonsensical diaries don't belong here. We encourage originality and uniqueness for sure, but with a relevant explanation and backstory. I've just read your diary for the first time and a few of my brain cells died in the process. You had no layout, no explanation, and part of me thinks, no intention of actually providing a legit diary. I think your best bet is to move on, and try something else that isn't as ridiculous, and earn yourself a position as a respected writer in this section. That's the only way I see this going. Totally agree with what Elliot said. When I started out on here, I made a "WWE Legends Show" diary in which several WWE legends returned for a weekly show. I had guys like Bret Hart, Iron Shiek and multiple others perform moonsaults and other unrealistic stuff. My grammar was bad, my format was bad and the whole things was a disaster. But, I eventually learned from all these other Simmers and I have become an experienced writer on these boards. My advice to you is to start with a WWE or TNA diary, just to get your feet wet on the board. When you eventually get better, and much more respected on here, then I advise you explore your possibilities.
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Post by DTP. on Apr 21, 2013 19:31:43 GMT -5
Hi, I've been missing for a week. Anyways... Not really, I was merely trying to make a point. Is it Red Dragon's job to read all the threads and make sure it's something he wants to read or is it his job to read through threads and make sure people are following the rules? He did the first one, he should of been doing the second one. I don't really hold it against him but he really should of recognized what he did wrong and opened the thread by now. I admit some of my messages toward him were a little out there. I get worked up pretty easily sometimes and maybe I have been a little harsh with some of my comments and I apologize for that. I didn't come here to troll anybody. I came here because I like action figures, I wanted to expand my EWR results beyond "Vio Lent beat Chucky Blaze", and I wanted to possibly maybe get some feedback to aid in improving as a writer. And I admit my sim is weird, uncoventional, poorly written, and really stupid, but I've yet to be given a single example of how it broke any rules. Blocking me was running away from the problem, but there are only really three ways of solving it. 1. I am banned from here (Doesn't really seem that likely) 2. My sim is unlocked (The solution that makes the most sense, since there was no wrong doing in the first place) 3. Rules are added or changed to make my work not allowed (Not really the fairest solution, but if it's really something you don't want here it should be in the rules so no one else does something similar) Trolling isn't really what happened. It was mainly a moderator faced with a situation and he mishandled it. My sim wasn't written to incite and neither were any PMs I've sent, if they read that way I'm sincerely sorry for the misunderstanding. tl;dr: There was no trolling and the thread should be unlocked or rules should be added or changed to discourage the posting of similar sims. I can actually relate to what this guy is saying, in the matter of saying he has been mistaken for trolling with a bad diary posted on here. I remember when I started here, and I did everything in the book wrong. But people tend to improve. Whilst RD probably banned you from here for the intrusive comments you made towards him, (and this post was probably a bit of a bad idea in that sense, how you apologised whilst also commenting on his officiating as a MOD) you still have apologised and seen error in your way and admitted "OK, I ed up." I will say this, RD is a good moderator. To be fair, he's a more reasonable/fair MOD than previous MODs (cough Inner Circle cough Ricky cough), if you had crossed one of the past MODs, your head would have been bitten off and you would've been gone quicker than a hiccup. But y'know, all you can do is try to reason with him and keep improving on your writing if he allows you to come back, provided you take things more seriously. I read a bit of that messed up diary I read, the content was good, the writing was nice. Just, probably what threw people off was the lack of coding, the lack of definition, backstory, too much detail, etc. Just keep working on it, and try to work it out with RD. Bye.
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Post by DTP. on Apr 21, 2013 19:38:03 GMT -5
P.S. Proggy's a massive hipster with his Justin Roberts graphic.
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Post by Elliot on Apr 21, 2013 19:39:25 GMT -5
P.S. Elliot's a massive hipster with his Justin Roberts graphic. Dan's drunk again. I saw that edit, you bitch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 19:40:48 GMT -5
P.S. Proggy's a massive hipster with his Justin Roberts graphic.
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Post by ndqw on Apr 21, 2013 19:44:48 GMT -5
I feel inclined to ride this story to the end since I've been booking this EWR game for two and a half years. I am not a big WWE or TNA fan so I don't see myself writing fan fiction for them. So would anyone have a problem if I tried again with the same concept but posted a roster first and then threw headings onto the segments? It's not really my style but if conforming to that is what it takes to be accepted here I guess I'm willing to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 19:48:13 GMT -5
If you do go through with that. Format your text. It will look a million times better. A lot of us don't want to read a huge cluster of text without any formatting. And if people do want to read it like that, they're an alien.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Apr 21, 2013 19:54:40 GMT -5
Red Dragon obviously has a problem with it. Hence him locking it.
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Post by ndqw on Apr 21, 2013 20:08:30 GMT -5
Most of his problems derived from the format, so he'll probably be okay with it if I change it up a little and add a roster. Which is why I suggested that.
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Post by Elliot on Apr 21, 2013 20:18:49 GMT -5
Most of his problems derived from the format, so he'll probably be okay with it if I change it up a little and add a roster. Which is why I suggested that. This is good. So stick to it, and give us something we can get into and read. RD wouldn't lock a reasonable diary, so this should be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 20:49:05 GMT -5
Damned Red Dragon. BANNING ALL THE FUN.
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Post by Planktung on Apr 21, 2013 22:10:45 GMT -5
........alright, then.
NXT 9/5 is posted, featuring a main event of Daniel Bryan vs. NXT Champion Seth Rollins. Replies to come tomorrow and/or Tuesday. Or later than that, perhaps. I'm lazy. Piss off.
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Post by DTP. on Apr 22, 2013 5:51:18 GMT -5
P.S. Elliot's a massive hipster with his Justin Roberts graphic. Dan's drunk again. I saw that edit, you bitch. Proggy posted like a minute before I posted, I thought it was you.
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Post by Red Dragon on Apr 22, 2013 6:07:20 GMT -5
Can't believe this is still going. I think by now any reasonable person would have tried a different site. Most of his problems derived from the format, so he'll probably be okay with it if I change it up a little and add a roster. Which is why I suggested that. No thats not what you said, your just trying to make me out like the evil dictator of the Sims board. I told you right at the start you needed a backstory, an explination of the characters, a clear reason why it jumps from a wrestling show to a first person diary and bin the children killing each other stuff. I also suggested trying a new sim, a convential WWE and TNA one which has also been suggested here. I think what Elliot said makes most sense, maybe it should be put in the rules that diaries need context and not just a load of nonsense. But then again, what Rated R also makes sense. The rules aren't everything and if everyone agrees (which seems to be all except DT) then the locking stands. I think those who are saying it just needs formating needs to actually read the whole thing through to see how utter nonsense it is. And please can we not spam this thread, if we're going to talk about it here lets keep it sensible. Otherwise the Admins are gonna come in and lock this like what has been done in the past.
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