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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Oct 31, 2012 17:30:20 GMT -5
My uncle gave me old wwf vhs tapes(Im 13) and I am watching Royal Rumble 92 and I was thinking how come Davey Boy Smith never won the WWF title.I think he should have.Let me know what you think?
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Post by y2yay on Oct 31, 2012 17:50:54 GMT -5
As long as Jim Cornette was doing all the talking, I don't see why not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 18:05:41 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith was hugely over in 91/92 even with the American audience, which was astounding considering that he wasn't even American, and one of the most talented wrestlers to ever grace the ring. I recall when he is eliminated from the 92 Rumble the crowd literally lets out a disappointed groan.
Davey could have easily held the world title in 92, 95 or 96. I always think that he was probably the person who most deserved a title run who didn't get one, he wrestled on the upper card for several years, too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 18:46:59 GMT -5
He should have been champion. The match with Bret Hart at Summerslam 92...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 18:52:36 GMT -5
No. Davey Boy Smith was talented but he was never even close to Bret Hart or Owen Harts wrestling ability's. Davey Boy's ability's outside of tag team wrestling kept him at Mid-Card status. Not to mention he had no ability on the microphone. Now If you would asked about Owen Hart, yes he should of been WWF champion and I think would of been eventually if he would not of passed away.
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Post by Barney Stinson on Oct 31, 2012 18:58:45 GMT -5
I think in the case of 91/92 the Bulldog was caught with bad timing. He was probably well on his way to becoming WWF Champion in 92, but then the steroid accusations hit, and Vince had to shy away from the big muscular guys that were always on top. Thats why soon after the Bulldog and Warrior dissapeared from the WWF in late 92.
As far as 95/96 goes, by the time he came back the WWF was a completely different world from 1992 WWF. The Kliq was running rampant and while he was a solid hand and over he wasn't the same guy he was back then.
I think it could be summed up by saying, Wrong Place, Wrong Time unfortunatly for the Bulldog.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 31, 2012 19:14:22 GMT -5
I think it could be summed up by saying, Wrong Place, Wrong Time unfortunatly for the Bulldog. This. There was never really a time where it would have made sense for him to hold it, other than, maybe 1996, if he took the title of HBK. But we all know that would have never happened due to politics. Yes, he was popular in 1992, but putting the IC title made sense, not the World title. I believe he was originally supposed to have a length reign with the IC title after he defeated Bret, so who knows where that would have put him at the end of his reign. How things played out, there was no way I could see him as champ in 1992. I love Bulldog, but like the previous poster said, really the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 31, 2012 20:02:17 GMT -5
I'm a fan of the Bulldog, but he was never "The Man." He was simply a top mid-carder who could be thrown into WWF Title feuds once in a while but was never truely a big threat to win the title. His greatest matches are w/ Bret, Owen, and HBK, and we know who carried those matches. A mixture of personal problems, not really being a "ring general" to put a classic together himself, and other more talented guys prevented him from ever winning the title, and I agree w/ the decision to never put it on him.
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Post by Brad on Oct 31, 2012 20:30:45 GMT -5
I personally think he should have been at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 22:26:03 GMT -5
No.
I LOVE Davey Boy but I could never see him as being "the guy" to carry the company. No way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 9:08:58 GMT -5
I'm a fan of the Bulldog, but he was never "The Man." He was simply a top mid-carder who could be thrown into WWF Title feuds once in a while but was never truely a big threat to win the title. His greatest matches are w/ Bret, Owen, and HBK, and we know who carried those matches. A mixture of personal problems, not really being a "ring general" to put a classic together himself, and other more talented guys prevented him from ever winning the title, and I agree w/ the decision to never put it on him. The beauty of the Owen/Bulldog and Bret/Bulldog matches is that no one man carried the other. Those matches were gold and wouldn't have been anywhere near as good if one man had to be carried. To be honest I never saw a Shawn vs Bulldog match that was anything special. I don't think Shawn could have a good match with everyone like Bret did. Shawn's matches with Nash and Bulldog being the main matches that I can think of. No. I LOVE Davey Boy but I could never see him as being "the guy" to carry the company. No way. I disagree, when Jack Swagger and The Miz can hold a world title in recent years, there's no reason why Bulldog couldn't have at the very least been a transitional champion.
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Nov 1, 2012 9:29:07 GMT -5
I'm a fan of the Bulldog, but he was never "The Man." He was simply a top mid-carder who could be thrown into WWF Title feuds once in a while but was never truely a big threat to win the title. His greatest matches are w/ Bret, Owen, and HBK, and we know who carried those matches. A mixture of personal problems, not really being a "ring general" to put a classic together himself, and other more talented guys prevented him from ever winning the title, and I agree w/ the decision to never put it on him. The beauty of the Owen/Bulldog and Bret/Bulldog matches is that no one man carried the other. Those matches were gold and wouldn't have been anywhere near as good if one man had to be carried. To be honest I never saw a Shawn vs Bulldog match that was anything special. I don't think Shawn could have a good match with everyone like Bret did. Shawn's matches with Nash and Bulldog being the main matches that I can think of. No. I LOVE Davey Boy but I could never see him as being "the guy" to carry the company. No way. I disagree, when Jack Swagger and The Miz can hold a world title in recent years, there's no reason why Bulldog couldn't have at the very least been a transitional champion. I really enjoyed the HBK/Bulldog matches, they tore the house down at one night only (despite the finish). I also loved his matches with Nash. As a 12 year old who despised HBK, the moment at KOTR 96 when Bulldog dropped HBK out the ring had me in stitches, i was so into that feud.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 1, 2012 10:06:32 GMT -5
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Post by Mattie! on Nov 1, 2012 10:16:59 GMT -5
When he had Dreadlocks he looked great and everytime ive watched the 1992 royal rumble when he Eliminates Ted Dibiase man that pop is huge & his match with Bret at Summerslam 1992 could possibly be one of the greatest matches know to man, however I'm always gonna say that both of Shawn's feet touched the floor years on Stealing Davey's spot
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 1, 2012 11:33:59 GMT -5
Bulldog's problem was drugs. Whether it was Steroids or recreational, I honestly feel he was in the same boat as Kerry Von Erich....You just couldnt trust him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 13:45:37 GMT -5
I'm a fan of the Bulldog, but he was never "The Man." He was simply a top mid-carder who could be thrown into WWF Title feuds once in a while but was never truely a big threat to win the title. His greatest matches are w/ Bret, Owen, and HBK, and we know who carried those matches. A mixture of personal problems, not really being a "ring general" to put a classic together himself, and other more talented guys prevented him from ever winning the title, and I agree w/ the decision to never put it on him. The beauty of the Owen/Bulldog and Bret/Bulldog matches is that no one man carried the other. Those matches were gold and wouldn't have been anywhere near as good if one man had to be carried. To be honest I never saw a Shawn vs Bulldog match that was anything special. I don't think Shawn could have a good match with everyone like Bret did. Shawn's matches with Nash and Bulldog being the main matches that I can think of. No. I LOVE Davey Boy but I could never see him as being "the guy" to carry the company. No way. I disagree, when Jack Swagger and The Miz can hold a world title in recent years, there's no reason why Bulldog couldn't have at the very least been a transitional champion. I feel the same way about Swagger and Miz. Not every champion has carried the company.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 1, 2012 13:54:39 GMT -5
one kinda side-point to all this : how come never the WCW World Champion? he came into WCW in 1993 with great fanfare,and was teaming with Sting against Sid,Vader,and Harlem Heat. yet by Summer 1994 he was back in the WWF. i don't know what all the politics and such were in WCW with regards to him,but when he came there i really figured he'd be the guy to dethrone Vader. yet all his WCW time really amounted to nothing.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 1, 2012 14:11:14 GMT -5
Miz and Swagger? Are serious bro? Bulldog was in his prime in the early to mid 90's when the company was entirely different. Not just anyone won the WWF Title back then. Now it's just a prop but back then "the guy" used to be champion. That's apples to oranges, and a terrible argument/justification as to why Bulldog should have won.
Owen, Scott Hall, Mr. Perfect, all deserved to be champion around the same time DBS could have potentially won it and those men never won either. So I say no way, no how, did Bulldog deserve to win if those other guys didn't do it first. Maybe if Bulldog could cut a promo to save his life he would have pulled it off, but he was no closer to winning than anyone else on the upper midcard bubble and rightfully so if you ask me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 14:20:52 GMT -5
Miz and Swagger? Are serious bro? Bulldog was in his prime in the early to mid 90's when the company was entirely different. Not just anyone won the WWF Title back then. Now it's just a prop but back then "the guy" used to be champion. That's apples to oranges, and a terrible argument/justification as to why Bulldog should have won. Owen, Scott Hall, Mr. Perfect, all deserved to be champion around the same time DBS could have potentially won it and those men never won either. So I say no way, no how, did Bulldog deserve to win if those other guys didn't do it first. Maybe if Bulldog could cut a promo to save his life he would have pulled it off, but he was no closer to winning than anyone else on the upper midcard bubble and rightfully so if you ask me. I beg to differ....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2012 14:35:35 GMT -5
nah.DBS is chronically overrated in my book and he NEVER deserved to be the top guy.
who should he have beaten in 92?since Bret had to carry his blown up/drugged out ass to a match in Wembley Vince was never gonna give it to him.then he was fired for buying stuff from the UK with Warrior.
Owen deserved it more than him in 95 no doubting.....if a heel were to relieve Diesel it should have been Owen.
in 96 his midcard status was cemented......Vader & Sid were the only other guys on Vinces radar to dethrone HBK
in 97 there was surely no room for him.
nah midcarder for life.
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