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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Feb 6, 2013 14:11:21 GMT -5
I never said it was. Stop assuming things. I just said it was interesting. Okay fine, I apologise for assuming things. However.... You didn't exactly help matters by saying gun control was BS and accusing anyone who isn't a gun nut of only having an argument consisting of "Guns are bad". Nope. I didn't say gun control was BS. Gun control has always existed. I think what's attempting to be done with it now is BS. I will stand by that. As for your second statement. I did no such thing. If that's what you took from it then it's on you.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Feb 6, 2013 14:15:52 GMT -5
And you don't have to be a "gun nut" to be Pro-Gun.
Look. I'll say this, since you seem to be yearning for the argument that I said I wouldn't engage in. I like guns. Alot. I'd never shoot a person with one unless my or my family's life was placed in immediate danger. That being said, I have a MAJOR problem with someone else telling me that I'm wrong, or that something is wrong with me for wanting to own a fire arm. If for nothing more than to shoot paper targets to pass the time.
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Post by slappy on Feb 6, 2013 16:23:04 GMT -5
Laws against drunk driving don't stop drunk driving. So why do you think laws banning "assault" weapons will stop people from getting "assault" weapons?
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Feb 6, 2013 16:35:53 GMT -5
Laws against drunk driving don't stop drunk driving. So why do you think laws banning "assault" weapons will stop people from getting "assault" weapons? Um... No, but it greatly reduces drunk driving. But what do you have to say about this one:
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Post by slappy on Feb 6, 2013 16:39:25 GMT -5
Laws against drunk driving don't stop drunk driving. So why do you think laws banning "assault" weapons will stop people from getting "assault" weapons? Um... No, but it greatly reduces drunk driving. But what do you have to say about this one: Do you have a source that it greatly reduces drunk driving? I'd like an actual source on that graph.
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Post by HR2X on Feb 6, 2013 17:46:33 GMT -5
Laws against drunk driving don't stop drunk driving. So why do you think laws banning "assault" weapons will stop people from getting "assault" weapons? Um... No, but it greatly reduces drunk driving. But what do you have to say about this one: Those numbers are skewed, it doesn't take into account the amount of people in said state, for instance, NYC has over 8 million people so they will always have a lower number per 100,000 people
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Feb 6, 2013 17:56:44 GMT -5
I hate guns. That's my opinion. Don't like it? off.
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Post by slappy on Feb 6, 2013 18:00:38 GMT -5
I hate guns. That's my opinion. Don't like it? off. That's fine. I don't think anyone would dislike your opinion of disliking guns. What people dislike is you then forcing that onto everyone else saying that no one should like/have guns. You can dislike something without wanting to legislate it.
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Feb 6, 2013 18:07:26 GMT -5
I hate guns. That's my opinion. Don't like it? off. That's fine. I don't think anyone would dislike your opinion of disliking guns. What people dislike is you then forcing that onto everyone else saying that no one should like/have guns. You can dislike something without wanting to legislate it. Both sides are as bad as each other at that, trying to somehow convince the other that they are wrong.
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Post by slappy on Feb 6, 2013 18:12:26 GMT -5
That's fine. I don't think anyone would dislike your opinion of disliking guns. What people dislike is you then forcing that onto everyone else saying that no one should like/have guns. You can dislike something without wanting to legislate it. Both sides are as bad as each other at that, trying to somehow convince the other that they are wrong. It seems to be anti-gun people want to either take guns or ban guns. I don't see pro-gun people wanting to force everyone, even the anti-gun people, to own guns.
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Post by HR2X on Feb 6, 2013 18:15:20 GMT -5
Both sides are as bad as each other at that, trying to somehow convince the other that they are wrong. It seems to be anti-gun people want to either take guns or ban guns. I don't see pro-gun people wanting to force everyone, even the anti-gun people, to own guns. Exactly this.
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Post by alwayssunny on Feb 6, 2013 18:18:28 GMT -5
It seems to be anti-gun people want to either take guns or ban guns. I don't see pro-gun people wanting to force everyone, even the anti-gun people, to own guns. Exactly this. You are blind to accept that Pro Gun people don't want people to own guns. YES THEY DO! Just look at NRA Ads, they basically direct you to the nearest gun shop.
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Post by slappy on Feb 6, 2013 18:21:40 GMT -5
You are blind to accept that Pro Gun people don't want people to own guns. YES THEY DO! Just look at NRA Ads, they basically direct you to the nearest gun shop. First off, that's not forcing people to own guns. And the vast majority of gun owners are not NRA members.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Feb 6, 2013 18:37:17 GMT -5
Um... No, but it greatly reduces drunk driving. But what do you have to say about this one: Those numbers are skewed, it doesn't take into account the amount of people in said state, for instance, NYC has over 8 million people so they will always have a lower number per 100,000 people ...wut? I don't see the logic in this. How does NYC having more people mean it will have less gun crime per 100,000?
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Post by HR2X on Feb 6, 2013 18:46:53 GMT -5
You are blind to accept that Pro Gun people don't want people to own guns. YES THEY DO! Just look at NRA Ads, they basically direct you to the nearest gun shop. As a pro-gun person, no, I do not want everyone to have a gun. I want them to have freedom of choice whether or not to own one. There is a difference.
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Post by glenanncam on Feb 7, 2013 3:05:32 GMT -5
You're never going to stop famine and disease completely, so why bother giving to charity right?
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Feb 7, 2013 8:18:54 GMT -5
Both sides are as bad as each other at that, trying to somehow convince the other that they are wrong. It seems to be anti-gun people want to either take guns or ban guns. I don't see pro-gun people wanting to force everyone, even the anti-gun people, to own guns. Jesus Christ... We've made it quite clear that we don't want to take away or ban guns completely. We just want them to be regulated more, I don't see why that has to be such an issue.
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Post by K5 on Feb 7, 2013 12:38:54 GMT -5
considering the epic amounts of death american firearms commit daily in the mexican drug war, it's pretty clear something needs to be done in the american gun business/regulations surrounding it.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Feb 7, 2013 13:24:41 GMT -5
considering the epic amounts of death american firearms commit daily in the mexican drug war, it's pretty clear something needs to be done in the american gun business/regulations surrounding it. But those people likely aren't buying their guns from stores or manufactures. They'll have them anyway. Let's forget the whole "taking guns away from law abiding citizens" argument for the moment. How would heavily regulating firearms decrease gun violence when what you're regulating isn't even the primary means by which they're obtained by most people who use them to commit violent crimes?
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Post by glenanncam on Feb 7, 2013 13:38:18 GMT -5
considering the epic amounts of death american firearms commit daily in the mexican drug war, it's pretty clear something needs to be done in the american gun business/regulations surrounding it. But those people likely aren't buying their guns from stores or manufactures. They'll have them anyway. Let's forget the whole "taking guns away from law abiding citizens" argument for the moment. How would heavily regulating firearms decrease gun violence when what you're regulating isn't even the primary means by which they're obtained by most people who use them to commit violent crimes? Less guns = less deaths. That's almost certain to happen.
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