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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Jan 16, 2013 18:53:19 GMT -5
as you all know I despise Stephanie McMahon with a POISONOUS hatred that blackens my soul......so I would have LOVED to have been present the day of Backlash 2002 when Vince decided that Hogan was gonna take the title overruled her booking and she had a tantrum.......oh man. and it WAS a last minute thing. Wait what? Care to elaborate? Pretty crazy stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2013 19:06:09 GMT -5
its well documented that one........
Hogans title win was a very last minute decision by Vince.it was spurred on by something he had witnessed that Backlash weekend and he said he was gonna ride the nostalgia wave while it was hot.
HHH of course was displeased(honestly its hard to blame him) and as head of creative Steph was furious and had an actual tantrum backstage.
but for me this was sweet payback to the two of them for the road to WM18 where they turned HHH vs Jericho into HHH vs Steph with Undisputed Champ Jericho as side attraction.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2013 19:09:11 GMT -5
Never have been much of a Hogan fan but I thought his 2002 run was pretty solid
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Post by China Claus on Jan 16, 2013 21:06:10 GMT -5
I loved Hogans 2002 run as much as anybody, but a longer run at that?
It would've spawned WCW circa '95, which eventually would lead to another Invasion due to the WWE brand extension.......
Brock Lesnar vs. Hulk Hogan Wrestlemania 29 anyone?
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jan 17, 2013 0:16:44 GMT -5
The only failure on WWE's part was giving Hogan the title at all. Vince overreacted to the brazenly rebellious Wrestlemania crowd in '02, forgetting the fact that Canadian crowds had a long history of hating the current babyfaces.
WWE had a plethora of top talent in or around their respective primes at the time: Austin, Rock, HHH, Angle, Undertaker. He didn't need to book top angles around a decrepit refugee from the '80s. Watching even a couple of events headlined by a tanned version of the Crypt Keeper was too much. WWE could have placated Hogan fans without sacrificing HHH's big comeback or having Taker carry him to a barely-watchable title-change match.
WWE didn't start using Hogan correctly for several months. When he was used as TV fodder for the Lesnar-Rock feud and put in a special attraction feud with Vince, he was less of a distraction.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 17, 2013 11:17:04 GMT -5
its well documented that one........ Hogans title win was a very last minute decision by Vince.it was spurred on by something he had witnessed that Backlash weekend and he said he was gonna ride the nostalgia wave while it was hot. HHH of course was displeased(honestly its hard to blame him) and as head of creative Steph was furious and had an actual tantrum backstage. but for me this was sweet payback to the two of them for the road to WM18 where they turned HHH vs Jericho into HHH vs Steph with Undisputed Champ Jericho as side attraction. Same. I hated how Jericho's first shot to be "The Man" was ruined by HHH and Steph's terrible booking. I felt the Royal Rumble that year was also a disapointment, as everyone knew going into it that HHH was going to win. I felt his face run was forced and it was clear the fans didn't want any of it. I too was glad HHH had to put Hogan over, and it definalty was sweet revenge for what had happened to Jericho. |
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Post by marino13 on Jan 17, 2013 13:33:22 GMT -5
its well documented that one........ Hogans title win was a very last minute decision by Vince.it was spurred on by something he had witnessed that Backlash weekend and he said he was gonna ride the nostalgia wave while it was hot. HHH of course was displeased(honestly its hard to blame him) and as head of creative Steph was furious and had an actual tantrum backstage. but for me this was sweet payback to the two of them for the road to WM18 where they turned HHH vs Jericho into HHH vs Steph with Undisputed Champ Jericho as side attraction. Same. I hated how Jericho's first shot to be "The Man" was ruined by HHH and Steph's terrible booking. I felt the Royal Rumble that year was also a disapointment, as everyone knew going into it that HHH was going to win. I felt his face run was forced and it was clear the fans didn't want any of it. I too was glad HHH had to put Hogan over, and it definalty was sweet revenge for what had happened to Jericho. I dunno man..... Sounds to me like the fans were having plenty of it. |
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Post by sean™ on Jan 17, 2013 13:40:59 GMT -5
I'm still pissed at Hulk for sandbagging that chokeslam at Judgement Day 02 from the Undertaker.....who is 2-1 in title matches with the Hulkster might I add.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 20:07:10 GMT -5
I actually do think the fans were into HHH as a face.personally I wasnt and to this day I think it felt forced an unnatural.....I just think the whole "game" gimmick is tailored for heeldom.
but yeah he got some pretty big reactions in early 2002.
and yeah I hated the way Jericho was treated in that feud......holy crap they neutered him.......and Im no Jericho mark.
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Post by K5 on Jan 17, 2013 20:46:41 GMT -5
i really think that the reason everyone remembers it fondly was because it WAS short lived.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 7:42:46 GMT -5
Triple H was a born heel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 8:03:42 GMT -5
Triple H was a born heel. he sure is. he was EXCELLENT as a heel......when he broke up DX at WM15 he garnered him mega heat that he was able to capitalise on. |
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Jan 18, 2013 10:40:48 GMT -5
Triple H was a born heel. So would most folk who were born duck footed & with a beak like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 11:25:46 GMT -5
Triple H was a born heel. he sure is. he was EXCELLENT as a heel......when he broke up DX at WM15 he garnered him mega heat that he was able to capitalise on. So was Shawn Michaels. Shawn as a face just didn't work for me. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 18, 2013 11:51:37 GMT -5
The Hogan 2002 nostalgia run was fine, but no way should it have gone on longer. He had a huge WrestleMania dream match, a last big world title win, a tag team title run with an up-and-comer, and he put over a rising star in a strong match. It was pretty perfect as it was.
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Post by Deja Voodoo on Feb 17, 2013 16:33:03 GMT -5
Hogan was so over at the time. But who really thought he should be champion at his age? His title run was only great because it was short lived. Anything else would have ruined it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 18:32:45 GMT -5
Great read mate, thanks. As for me, I agree, I liked his run in 2002, even though I am not a Hogan mark in any way, shape or form.
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Post by K5 on Feb 18, 2013 0:14:14 GMT -5
I'm still pissed at Hulk for sandbagging that chokeslam at Judgement Day 02 from the Undertaker.....who is 2-1 in title matches with the Hulkster might I add. hogan did his best to keep any bumping to a minimum...combined with the fact he was probably gassed by the time of the chokeslam, and it's hard to blame hogan too much. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 11:49:19 GMT -5
I'm still pissed at Hulk for sandbagging that chokeslam at Judgement Day 02 from the Undertaker.....who is 2-1 in title matches with the Hulkster might I add. I always thought that was more a case of mis-timing than Hogan sandbagging him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 12:52:29 GMT -5
I think that was mistiming too.......I thought UT vs Hogan was a pretty decent effort when you take Hogans condition into account.
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