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Post by Rule 30 on Jan 28, 2013 14:13:37 GMT -5
I just can't wait until Cena beats Rock and half of this board bitches about that, when they've been making fun of Punk fans for bitching about his loss.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 28, 2013 14:26:53 GMT -5
Anyone with half a brain could see last night was a complete joke! 1. Another Cena rumble win? He doesn't need it! So predicatable and not ruined the main event because we all then knew Rock was going to win. Boring! 2. Rock is a paper champ and doesn't deserve a title run. It sends out the wrong message to all the hard working wrestlers in the locker room. It's all about money and stroking egos. 3. Punk has to be pinned by the worst move ever. The most unrealistic move ever. A stupid elbow? Lame and pathetic. 4. Last year Mania was 'once in a life time'. Hmmm so we have the same match again!! 5. This was only done to stroke Johns ego to get a win over the Rock at mania and be champ again! We are BORED of Cena as champ. Heel champs are best! 6. All this so WWE can sell more T-Shirts to little kids. 7. Why book Taker vs Punk now. We know Taker will win for sure. If Punk walked into that match the champ it would have been amazing excitement and on the edge of your seat viewing. Now, what's the point! For the record I am a MASSIVE Undertaker fan and I didn't want the steak or Punks title reign to end. I was hoping for some exciting ideas and booking walking into that match. Now there is no point. I am mad as hell at WWE. WE complain because we want better quality matches and we want more from a product I've invested time in for the last 20 years. When you lived through the glory days and attitude era and spent THOUSANDS on WWE I have every right to complain. Rest in peace..... Very generic smark post, I give you only a 3/10 for effort. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jan 28, 2013 14:32:42 GMT -5
If we do get Rock vs Cena II at WM then I'd laugh if Rock goes over Cena again. WWE still has a chance to make this right by giving us Rock vs Punk vs Cena at WM and it wouldn't even matter who wins the match from there.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 28, 2013 14:36:42 GMT -5
If we do get Rock vs Cena II at WM then I'd laugh if Rock goes over Cena again. WWE still has a chance to make this right by giving us Rock vs Punk vs Cena at WM and it wouldn't even matter who wins the match from there. If Rock leaves Mania the winner, whether it's vs. Cena or vs. Cena & Punk, he's a dick. In hindsight, he'll have come back after 8 years, wrestled 4 times and beaten Miz, R-Truth, Cena twice and Punk twice, without losing once. Dick. |
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Post by Infinite on Jan 28, 2013 14:43:23 GMT -5
Right, so I'm kinda irked about what happened last night. However what I'm not going to do is make up a bunch of 'inside' reasons why the results were 'bad for business' etc, because the simple fact is they'll make a crapton of money off what's going to happen. Straight up though, I don't want to see Rock vs Cena 2, I didn't find it remotely interesting that Cena won the Rumble, and yeah, I would've loved to see Punker beat Rock and head into 'Mania with the strap. So the way I see it it's my right as a fan to choose not to eat up everything WWE
throws my way (with all due respect to those who look forward to Rock/Cena II) and perhaps even not entirely enjoy it.
As for The Rock, again I'm simply not that entertained by him right now. His last 2 matches have been average at best IMO, and his promo work hasn't been so great either. I still consider myself a big fan, but I can't say I really give a crapabout him having the belt, aside from the fact that it means Punk doesn't have it anymore.
Maybe I'm a 'smark' but whatever.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 28, 2013 14:45:03 GMT -5
If we do get Rock vs Cena II at WM then I'd laugh if Rock goes over Cena again. WWE still has a chance to make this right by giving us Rock vs Punk vs Cena at WM and it wouldn't even matter who wins the match from there. But we aren't getting that match. We are getting Rock vs Cena II for the WWE Title. I want that match too, the way it should have been imo, but Punk needed to keep the title until EC if that was going to happen. We're kidding ourselves. GI Joe comes out March 29th, and Rock will be WWE Champion until WM. He'll take the title with him to all his talk show appearances and any other media appearances and plug the sh*t out of his second showdown with Cena. Punk's an after thought, starting last night. |
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Post by mikeysim on Jan 28, 2013 14:49:04 GMT -5
Clearly Rock- Cena II for the WWE Title is going to result in more Wrestlemania PPV buys than just about anything else WWE could come up with...Punk v Ziggler in the main event at WM? You think that is going to break any records? No chance...its booked the way it is because it is smart booking, it appeals to the masses...
All the hate for Rock is baffling...he "doesnt deserve" another reign...why not? he busted his ass when he was full time, he raised the level of WWE by more than anyone with the exception of Hogan and Austin...then he busted his ass in the movie world , became one of the top action actors in Hollywood...then came back and look, the PPV rates for Wrestlemania and tv ratings on RAW were increased substantially because of HIM...Punk may be wrestler of the year...Ziggler may be your favorite...but they don't move the ratings and PPV numbers the way Rock does...Ziggler v Punk main eventing Mania would flop...
Rock is back to entertain..to have fun...to give the fans something back...he doesnt need the money...he's here because he loves the business...how many of your favorites would be busting their asses with a schedule like Rock's when they didnt need the money...and it results in major money for WWE...thats all they care about...and thats all they should care about...
I doubt Punk is crushed over this...main eventing with the Rock will only bolster his name in the future...itll result in more money for him and cementing him further as big time...Losing to Rock is better in the long run than a few more month reign would have been...
I agree though that before Rock is done, he should lose to Punk- they should 3 way the title at Mania and have Ounk go over...
Don't blame Rock for keeping people back...blame those that can't get themselves over or blame the WWE suits like HHH for not letting other wrestlers have the opportunity to rise...All Rock can be blamed for is adding eyes to this product..
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jan 28, 2013 14:52:40 GMT -5
If we do get Rock vs Cena II at WM then I'd laugh if Rock goes over Cena again. WWE still has a chance to make this right by giving us Rock vs Punk vs Cena at WM and it wouldn't even matter who wins the match from there. If Rock leaves Mania the winner, whether it's vs. Cena or vs. Cena & Punk, he's a dick. In hindsight, he'll have come back after 8 years, wrestled 4 times and beaten Miz, R-Truth, Cena twice and Punk twice, without losing once. Dick. I can't believe the Rock didn't put over Truth and Miz. |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jan 28, 2013 14:55:24 GMT -5
And it's not Rock's fault the current roster is stale and doesn't have a guy that can fill his shoes. Blame Vince, HHH, writers, whatever. Don't blame the guy that returns to do what he's asked and to try and make the company he loves better.
Just to clarify, I don't feel the entire roster is a bore. I'm waiting for Ziggler to cash in and run with it. And yes, Punk says some epic things on the mic.
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Post by jacktunney on Jan 28, 2013 15:00:48 GMT -5
This thread is pure gold.
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Post by yinyang on Jan 28, 2013 15:11:16 GMT -5
If we do get Rock vs Cena II at WM then I'd laugh if Rock goes over Cena again. WWE still has a chance to make this right by giving us Rock vs Punk vs Cena at WM and it wouldn't even matter who wins the match from there. If Rock leaves Mania the winner, whether it's vs. Cena or vs. Cena & Punk, he's a dick. In hindsight, he'll have come back after 8 years, wrestled 4 times and beaten Miz, R-Truth, Cena twice and Punk twice, without losing once. Dick. He is THE GREAT ONE! Its official without a doubt! The Rock > Stone Cold |
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Post by slappy on Jan 28, 2013 15:16:38 GMT -5
So wait, people are mad that Rock is a part timer yet they love Chris Jericho? Okay. I think they are mad that Rock is a part timer that not only wins the WWE title and doesn't put anyone over whereas Jericho has yet to win the title and has put people over (Punk, Ziggler). |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jan 28, 2013 15:20:37 GMT -5
You guys keep saying Rock doesn't put anyone over. Do you think they signed him and said you're gonna lose to punk, you're gonna lose to cena, and he said no change it? And Vince said, ok you're gonna beat those guys and become Champion. They wrote it that way. He agree, Punk and Cena agreed. That's how it works. In the cases where they didn't agree, people left, quit, retired, jumped to another company, etc.
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Post by Brankind on Jan 28, 2013 15:22:33 GMT -5
CM Punk isn't fit to breathe the same air as The Rock. that is harsh since Punk has more skill. Rock is just better ont he mic and a bigger draw |
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Post by slappy on Jan 28, 2013 15:26:24 GMT -5
You guys keep saying Rock doesn't put anyone over. Do you think they signed him and said you're gonna lose to punk, you're gonna lose to cena, and he said no change it? And Vince said, ok you're gonna beat those guys and become Champion. They wrote it that way. He agree, Punk and Cena agreed. That's how it works. In the cases where they didn't agree, people left, quit, retired, jumped to another company, etc. But don't you think he has enough pull that he could say "Hey, why not put this guy over?" Rock didn't need the win at Mania. He certainly didn't need the win last night. How many people are going to order WrestleMania that otherwise would not have now that Rock is champion? I mean the people that knew Rock is going to wrestle but wouldn't order even if he was on it but now will because he's champion? If Rock is a huge draw then he can do it without the title. They'd order to see the Rock in a match regardless if he has the title. Rock is only holding the title to drop it to Cena which more people here will be bitching about but honestly I'd rather have Cena as champion than Rock because at least he's there every week. |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jan 28, 2013 15:40:26 GMT -5
I see your points, but how do we know Rock didn't offer for Cena or Punk to win? and Vince shot it down?
The Rock didn't need the win at mania or last night. But maybe the "people, the wwe universe" did.
I think they booked it pretty good. Punk built this heel persona for 6 months. Stressed how anti the people and fans he is. The total opposite of the Rock. So who better to swoop in and save the people from the championship streak; or 434 days of misery I believe he said? The people's champ
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Post by slappy on Jan 28, 2013 15:59:13 GMT -5
I see your points, but how do we know Rock didn't offer for Cena or Punk to win? and Vince shot it down? The Rock didn't need the win at mania or last night. But maybe the "people, the wwe universe" did. I think they booked it pretty good. Punk built this heel persona for 6 months. Stressed how anit the people and fans he is. The total opposite of the Rock. So who better to swoop in and save the people from the championship streak; or 434 days of misery I believe he said? The people's champ That very well could be. I know Taker has said several times (I believe even with Orton) that he wanted his streak to end but Vince said no. As much as I don't like him, Ryback would have been a better choice if only because Punk losing the title should have been something that puts a new guy over. |
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jan 28, 2013 16:39:55 GMT -5
So wait, people are mad that Rock is a part timer yet they love Chris Jericho? Okay. I think they are mad that Rock is a part timer that not only wins the WWE title and doesn't put anyone over whereas Jericho has yet to win the title and has put people over (Punk, Ziggler). So if you are a loser you are cool but if you win you suck. Gotcha. |
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Jan 28, 2013 16:45:15 GMT -5
LOL@ at people saying Rocky does not deserve a title run. Im a Austin guy but for the record, im glad Rock is back and is champion again. I hated the finish though, would of been awesome if the lights came on and the shield were layed out by the rock. Haha!
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Post by slappy on Jan 28, 2013 17:01:04 GMT -5
I think they are mad that Rock is a part timer that not only wins the WWE title and doesn't put anyone over whereas Jericho has yet to win the title and has put people over (Punk, Ziggler). So if you are a loser you are cool but if you win you suck. Gotcha. Not entirely true but it is ridiculous that part time guys are put over guys who are there every day. |
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