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Post by glenanncam on Feb 2, 2013 23:43:04 GMT -5
Fair enough, Triple H did lose to Jim Ross. Fair play to him.
You have to remember that he was playing a cowardly chickensh*t heel though. And he lost due to heavy interference from the World Heavyweight Champion Batista. Stone Cold is one of the most over faces of all time, being expected to be pinned by a heel announcer (who wasn't even a retired wrestler or anything) after interference from Mark Henry, who at that point was a joke who hadn't even appeared on screen in 2 years.
So yeah, the circumstances are a bit different. Do you think 2002 Face Triple H would have lost to a heel announcer? Hell no. Do you think Hulk Hogan would have lost to Bobby Heenan after interference from The Warlord? Definitely not.
Also, Austin didn't walk out because he wasn't the first draft pick. The OP has made that up. He left because he didn't like the direction of his character after WM18. Don't get me wrong, he shouldn't have walked out. He was wrong to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 2:53:53 GMT -5
yes the HHH/JR and Austin/Coach comparison is absolutely ridiculous.
I had meant to post on that last night but got distracted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 12:34:45 GMT -5
1. Never ever compare Stone Cold to John Cena. Ever. Under any circumstances.
2. Triple H is the devil.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 13:20:30 GMT -5
1. Never ever compare Stone Cold to John Cena. Ever. Under any circumstances. 2. Triple H is the devil. LOL there ya have it!! |
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 3, 2013 17:41:04 GMT -5
1. Never ever compare Stone Cold to John Cena. Ever. Under any circumstances. 2. Triple H is the devil. LOL there ya have it!! I second this. |
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Post by LeighD on Feb 9, 2013 23:26:48 GMT -5
I will always side with Austin against the WWE during his walk out in 2002. The bottom line is that he was still by far the most over guy in the company, yet Vince wanted him to job to Lesnar in an unadvertised match on Raw. That plus the fact he had to work a crappy program and match w/ Hall at WM while HHH and Jericho worked the main event even though they wern't as over as him, and I don't blame him. Vince knew that both Austin and Hogan didn't trust eachother, and it wasn't just Austin who didn't want to work w/ Hogan. It went both ways. While I don't agree with him when he first walked out in 98 or 99 for a very brief time, I don't blame him for doing it in 2002. He was still the most over guy, yet was getting treated like crap. He earned the right to veto bad storylines, and being asked to put over Lesnar in an unadvertsied match on Raw was a bad move on the WWE's part. Austin has said he'd have had no problem putting Lesnar over in a big PPV match. And it was a very smart business move on Austin's part, because past writters have said that going into the fall of 02, every scenario for the main event of WM19 included Austin some how. Austin knew the WWE needed him more than he needed the WWE, and Vince came back for him mere months after the walk out. Man that sums it up nicely for me also. Everything I have read makes me feel Austin has a very good business sense for wrestling. in 2002, he was just generally fed up with the direction the company as well as his character were going. Austin didn't have issues with Rock, n.W.o., Lesnar etc but more so the writers. Now was walking out the best way to handle the situation? Absolutely not. Sad too because we misses out of about 6-7 months of Austin in 2002. I wonder what he would have been involved in. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 16, 2013 0:01:01 GMT -5
I have no problem with what he did...
1) Austin has always been a bigger star in wrestling then The Rock. Rightfully so, Austin-Hogan would have been a much more bigger and epic event then Rock-Hogan.
2) Austin was "the face" of the company for many years as well as its biggest draw. In any other sport the "best of the best" tend to go #1 in drafts. Honestly, Austin should be picked #1.
3) Austin has said he didnt mind putting Brock over but felt it shouldnt be on Raw but on a PPV where it can garner more buy rates. Personally I agree with him.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Feb 16, 2013 2:59:23 GMT -5
Austin never threw a strop because Rock got to work with Hogan & not him, Austin chose to not wrestle Hogan because he didn't want to put him over and already knew how Hogan would play like he did with Rock. He chose to take a hefty pay cut that night & face Scott Hall instead.
I agree with Austin's stance on the Lesnar matter, Austin was willing to lose to Lesnar on a grander scale, not a throwaway match on TV with absolutely no build.
And where did the draft pick story come from? Never heard that one before.
Whilst Austin walking out may not have been the most professional thing to do, I agree with his stance on some of the matters, I never actually learned about this stuff until a year or two later. In mid 2002 I had stopped watching until Summer 03 & never really started reading up on backstage happenings until a year or so after that.
Can you really blame Austin for refusing to job to Coach? I don't even need to get into that one.
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