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Post by alexgg on Jul 8, 2013 4:43:41 GMT -5
I love my player in nba2k and I think that it has gotte better each year, but I really could not think of anything worse in a wwe game. I have hated and I mean hated every single single payer mode where you are forced to plAy as a caw. I know some people love this, but I think it just sucks. I play a wwe game to play as wwe wrestlers not some terrible looking caw. So I really hope that they do not go down that route for the single player mode. Same here, I rarely use caws. Although I have enjoyed some of the RTWM CAW stories in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if they do a caw thing where you battle through the decades.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 5:30:10 GMT -5
I wonder how big a roster we can expect this year? I mean, they have very little in terms of movesets and entrances that they even need to do. There are at most 10 new active roster members that they can even add (even including DLC) as apart from Fandango, Shield, Axel, RVD, Maddox, Kaitlyn and Big. E there is literally no other active roster member worth adding that wasn't on 13 (or at least 12). Lawler, Cole and Axel will most likely use their WWE 12 movesets and I'm sure the prior two won't differ in any way from their WWE 12 models. Apart from a few people who will get new attires I really can't imagine what they could do to the active roster to make it any different. They've already recorded all the commentaries, designed all the stages, recorded the announcer lines, created the models, motion captured all the moves and entrances etc for the Attitude era so I can't imagine it being wise to cut any of the attitude era stars. They don't need their own mode this time around, they should just add another 5 or so guys and leave it at that (for starters RVD and Albert who are on the active roster, and just reskin Nash's attire with an NWO logo on it). Maybe they could finally add Scott Hall to one of these damn games (if they did it would be the first game to have all 5 kliq members in a game). Even the AE DLC like Too Cool, Pillman, Funk, Venis, Goldust and DDP should return. (Maybe they can also finally splash a nice attire on Billy Gunn though ). Then they could go one of two ways. Just have a separate "Legends" section or a "Golden Era" section. The two are pretty much the same thing given that the AE would be it's own thing. Anyone that they would put in this section would pretty much have competed in the Golden Era. Fill it with guys like Savage, Warrior, Perfect, Rude etc. And of course a couple of attitude stars like Shawn, Bret and Undertaker (and maybe Bulldog and Neidhart) could also have alternate characters that go in this section like they did last year with guys like Kane and The Rock. That's the only way I see this game topping WWE 13. It's all pretty possible, it's just whether 2K have the sense to do it. But like I said, doing it this way could leave us with one hell of a (huge) roster, without even really adding that many newcomers. With the gameplay and graphics going through minimal, if any changes and given that it's going to be coming out on what will be at the time old technology what other way can they expect it to sell?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 10:16:00 GMT -5
I feel there's a good chance of a demo this year. 2K sports always releases demos for NBA and MLB, hopefully they'll do the same for this.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 8, 2013 10:19:42 GMT -5
I wonder how big a roster we can expect this year? I mean, they have very little in terms of movesets and entrances that they even need to do. There are at most 10 new active roster members that they can even add (even including DLC) as apart from Fandango, Shield, Axel, RVD, Maddox, Kaitlyn and Big. E there is literally no other active roster member worth adding that wasn't on 13 (or at least 12). Lawler, Cole and Axel will most likely use their WWE 12 movesets and I'm sure the prior two won't differ in any way from their WWE 12 models. Apart from a few people who will get new attires I really can't imagine what they could do to the active roster to make it any different. Tensai would need a completely new model. Cameron and Naomi might get their own models this year. Bryan should have a new model instead of the weirdly outdated one they used last year. The Prime Time Players could be in. Axel and RVD probably won't be in until DLC at least, and RVD may not make it in at all. It depends. The contracts might have only been for one game. It wouldn't be wise paying the same amount of money to re-sign them all. People already have a game with the attitude roster in -- unless 2K14 has massive, significant gameplay improvements over last year's, attitude era fans have no incentive to pop another $60 down for the same thing they already have. But there wouldn't be any "OMG X-Pac! Godfather! Road Dogg!" type reactions this year. They blew their attitude load on the last game, and the cost vs rewards might not be worth it for them to double-dip. I feel there's a good chance of a demo this year. 2K sports always releases demos for NBA and MLB, hopefully they'll do the same for this. I'm not sure a demo is a good idea for these games though. They're 95% the same game every year, with an updated roster and a couple new things. So if you put out a demo where you can play as, say, Cena, Mysterio and Orton, you run the risk of people playing it and deciding not to bother because they've played as those guys a million times and it's too similar to last year's. If you throw in a Dean Ambrose or a Fandango on the demo, that takes away one of the key selling points of the new game (playing as new characters). I feel like a demo is potentially dangerous.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 10:35:11 GMT -5
I wonder how big a roster we can expect this year? I mean, they have very little in terms of movesets and entrances that they even need to do. There are at most 10 new active roster members that they can even add (even including DLC) as apart from Fandango, Shield, Axel, RVD, Maddox, Kaitlyn and Big. E there is literally no other active roster member worth adding that wasn't on 13 (or at least 12). Lawler, Cole and Axel will most likely use their WWE 12 movesets and I'm sure the prior two won't differ in any way from their WWE 12 models. Apart from a few people who will get new attires I really can't imagine what they could do to the active roster to make it any different. Tensai would need a completely new model. Cameron and Naomi might get their own models this year. Bryan should have a new model instead of the weirdly outdated one they used last year. The Prime Time Players could be in. Axel and RVD probably won't be in until DLC at least, and RVD may not make it in at all. It depends. The contracts might have only been for one game. It wouldn't be wise paying the same amount of money to re-sign them all. People already have a game with the attitude roster in -- unless 2K14 has massive, significant gameplay improvements over last year's, attitude era fans have no incentive to pop another $60 down for the same thing they already have. But there wouldn't be any "OMG X-Pac! Godfather! Road Dogg!" type reactions this year. They blew their attitude load on the last game, and the cost vs rewards might not be worth it for them to double-dip. Tensai doesn't need a new model. Neither does Bryan. Tensai only needs an attire change, Bryan just needs an attire and hair/beard change. They don't necessarily make new models when they do that, they use what they have already (IE face, Body scans) and edit it. They may have to pay out on some of them again (although anyone who has a legends contract they don't have to as it's inclusive in their legends deal), but it's certainly less expensive and takes less time to do that than to pay out for other people AND have to motion capture new moves, entrances, commentary lines and their models. They can easily add a few new people to keep the attitude fans interested and change up a few of the attires for people who frequently altered their attires (Shawn and Billy for instance).
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jul 8, 2013 13:31:26 GMT -5
Tensai would need a completely new model. Cameron and Naomi might get their own models this year. Bryan should have a new model instead of the weirdly outdated one they used last year. The Prime Time Players could be in. Axel and RVD probably won't be in until DLC at least, and RVD may not make it in at all. It depends. The contracts might have only been for one game. It wouldn't be wise paying the same amount of money to re-sign them all. People already have a game with the attitude roster in -- unless 2K14 has massive, significant gameplay improvements over last year's, attitude era fans have no incentive to pop another $60 down for the same thing they already have. But there wouldn't be any "OMG X-Pac! Godfather! Road Dogg!" type reactions this year. They blew their attitude load on the last game, and the cost vs rewards might not be worth it for them to double-dip. Tensai doesn't need a new model. Neither does Bryan. Tensai only needs an attire change, Bryan just needs an attire and hair/beard change. They don't necessarily make new models when they do that, they use what they have already (IE face, Body scans) and edit it.They may have to pay out on some of them again (although anyone who has a legends contract they don't have to as it's inclusive in their legends deal), but it's certainly less expensive and takes less time to do that than to pay out for other people AND have to motion capture new moves, entrances, commentary lines and their models. They can easily add a few new people to keep the attitude fans interested and change up a few of the attires for people who frequently altered their attires (Shawn and Billy for instance). Very true. The longer/modeled parts of the hair are actually even separate parts of the model (as opposed to say facial features or an elbow pad, etc.) Tensai's attire would need to be updated in terms of the model, but he himself would be fine. I always thought his texture could use some work though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 14:52:29 GMT -5
It depends. The contracts might have only been for one game. It wouldn't be wise paying the same amount of money to re-sign them all. There's only handful of Attitude Era superstars from WWE '13 who aren't under WWE contract (active roster, backstage role, or legends deal): Edge Gangrel Godfather (unsure if he has a legends contract or not) Goldust Grandmaster Sexay Ken Shamrock Mike Tyson Rikishi Scotty 2 Hotty Shane McMahon Val Venis ...and all of them except Iron Mike were still around after WrestleMania XV. People already have a game with the attitude roster in -- unless 2K14 has massive, significant gameplay improvements over last year's, attitude era fans have no incentive to pop another $60 down for the same thing they already have. People already have a game that mostly covers 1997-1999, a game based on late 1999-2002 wouldn't be the same thing. But there wouldn't be any "OMG X-Pac! Godfather! Road Dogg!" type reactions this year. They blew their attitude load on the last game, and the cost vs rewards might not be worth it for them to double-dip. Crash Holly Dean Malenko Perry Saturn Raven Rhyno Steve Blackman Tajiri William Regal ...and those are just the guys that were in the company before the InVasion angle, there were more big names who returned later on. Booker T Hollywood Hogan Kevin Nash Mr. Perfect Ric Flair Rob Van Dam Scott Hall
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 15:25:22 GMT -5
People already have a game with the attitude roster in -- unless 2K14 has massive, significant gameplay improvements over last year's, attitude era fans have no incentive to pop another $60 down for the same thing they already have. Also, this is a rather preposterous statement. Especially knowing how little the roster has changed from last year to this year. Your statement is the equivalent of someone saying "who's going to buy WWE 2k14, when WWE 13 has a current roster too".
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 8, 2013 16:51:59 GMT -5
People already have a game that mostly covers 1997-1999, a game based on late 1999-2002 wouldn't be the same thing. Unless they've somehow managed to get Kurt Angle, the Dudleys and the Hardys in, then there are no big wows roster-wise that they can make outside of Hogan and Flair, who don't need an attitude era link. Ignoring the TLC rivalry, the Radicalz arrival and the Steph/Hunter/Kurt love triangle essentially renders trying to cover 2000 properly both impossible and pointless. I'm guessing you never played attitude mode, but it went up to November 2001 in the off-script section. They covered the span from WrestleMania XV to November 2001 with a few random matches, which is all they could do given that so many of the key players of that time were in TNA or otherwise unavailable. Also, this is a rather preposterous statement. Especially knowing how little the roster has changed from last year to this year. Your statement is the equivalent of someone saying "who's going to buy WWE 2k14, when WWE 13 has a current roster too". False. The whole idea of including tons of wrestlers from a decade and a half ago in WWE 13 was to appeal to people who hadn't looked at a WWE game in years, and to do something radically different -- essentially, to mask the lack of a new game with a big nostalgia roster. WWE 13's USP was the attitude era. That load has been blown, repeating it again for 2K14 is not going to wow people. If it's cheap enough to keep all of those guys in, they might well still be in. If it's incredibly expensive, it isn't worth it and they're gone.
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Post by sean™ on Jul 8, 2013 17:05:19 GMT -5
If they are going to include non-current stars, I'd prefer the Golden Age concept that's been thrown around. That being said, I really hope they come up with a better mini-tron graphics for the Legends. The Attitude one is very ugly, and since I like watching entrances, I feel it takes away instead of adds. Hell, make a default one for us to use that's similar to the Entrance Creator you ALREADY have in the game.
I'd honestly rather see a one color background with just the name of the person scrolling than the Attitude one, which we already saw again with Austin's entrance in the trailer.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 8, 2013 18:45:44 GMT -5
If they are going to include non-current stars, I'd prefer the Golden Age concept that's been thrown around. I have a suspicion they're going for quality rather than quantity, and packing it with big names from various eras.
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Post by Jay "The Brain" Mann [OFSU] on Jul 8, 2013 18:56:36 GMT -5
If they are going to include non-current stars, I'd prefer the Golden Age concept that's been thrown around. I have a suspicion they're going for quality rather than quantity, and packing it with big names from various eras. That doesn't sound like Yuke's at all...
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Post by Angel Beast on Jul 8, 2013 20:02:31 GMT -5
If they were going to base this game around that era, Warrior would not be a pre-order bonus, he'd be one of the main playable characters on the default roster. That isn't true. Yes it is true. Hogan has said it in interviews. That's how he was able to be in WWE All-Stars. If WWE wanted to put out Hulk Hogan DVD's, t-shirts, acton figures and put him in video games, they can if they choose to. It's just highly irregular due to the fact that he works for a "rival" wrestling company. Hogan owns the rights to his name, likeness, etc. On the back of WWE's Hulk Hogan Ultimate Anthology it say "Hulk Hogan is a trademark owned by Terry Bollea"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2013 16:36:48 GMT -5
Can't wait to get the game
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Post by dylan on Jul 11, 2013 12:25:20 GMT -5
Aubrey posted this on Twitter today "I wish I could tell you who I'm interviewing today." Then WWE Games posted this "Not in the WWE Hall of Fame." Along with this picture I think the pic is Warrior
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Post by Jay "The Brain" Mann [OFSU] on Jul 11, 2013 13:01:56 GMT -5
I see facepaint. Definitely Warrior. Don't know why they're still trying to keep his inclusion a secret (a few days ago on their Facebook, they said one of the characters in the game "has never been in the series before" and posted a picture of his bicep).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 13:31:31 GMT -5
That's unquestionably Warrior. That pic has Warrior's big choppers.
Should be cool,I'm definitely keeping an eye out to see what the game's roster will be (is it still at Summerslam?).
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Post by Dat guy ova der on Jul 11, 2013 14:12:00 GMT -5
Definitely from that picture.
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jul 11, 2013 14:43:45 GMT -5
Yeah, that's definitely this picture. I saw no reason for it not to be true, but that just about confirms it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 15:42:59 GMT -5
I'm really hoping the inclusion of Savage and Warrior indicates a Golden Era section this year. (I've been hoping that Shawn's modern look could be in ala Nash and Edge last year, and Austin could be in to represent Attitude Era coming back).
Having the arena's and stuff would be awesome. Although obviously the commentator's wouldn't be very authentic unless they got Vince McMahon and Jesse Ventura, which is ridiculously unlikely. I'd love to see guys like Mr. Perfect and Rick Rude and teams like The Rockers, Demolition and The Hart Foundation (maybe even the brainbusters?).
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