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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Jul 31, 2013 14:50:16 GMT -5
All I want is TAKA, Funaki, and the Blue Meanie. Is that to much to ask? Yeah they need plenty of space for Bart Gunn and Johnny Ace's Japanese Tag Team "The Movement". Well i want Iron Sheik, Sgt. Slaughter and The Honky Tonk Man But TAKA, Funaki and Meanie would be fn EPIC
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 14:51:56 GMT -5
Yeah they need plenty of space for Bart Gunn and Johnny Ace's Japanese Tag Team "The Movement". Well i want Iron Sheik, Sgt. Slaughter and The Honky Tonk Man But TAKA, Funaki and Meanie would be fn EPIC BullcrapHoke Hogan. AM THE RED ALL AMERICAN MAN.
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Post by dylan on Jul 31, 2013 14:52:13 GMT -5
Yeah they need plenty of space for Bart Gunn and Johnny Ace's Japanese Tag Team "The Movement". Well i want Iron Sheik, Sgt. Slaughter and The Honky Tonk Man But TAKA, Funaki and Meanie would be fn EPIC I made Blue Meanie win the WWF in season mode on WM 2000. So much fun.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jul 31, 2013 15:23:14 GMT -5
I wish they would stop with this best of Attitude/Golden Era/WrestleMania bullcrap. It sucked last year, it'll suck this year. If I want to watch the Taker/Mankind Cell match, I'll go watch it. I was ok with it last year because the way they promoted Universe made it seem epic. But the lack of EVERYTHING they promoted killed the whole game. There was no story in Universe. The one count glitch killed gameplay for me. So all that was left was AE mode, which was just playing through a bunch of matches I've already seen.
I really hope we are just getting a crapshoot of legends, and the real focus is where it needs to be, the current era/roster.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 15:27:28 GMT -5
I wish they would stop with this best of Attitude/Golden Era/WrestleMania bullcrap. It sucked last year, it'll suck this year. If I want to watch the Taker/Mankind Cell match, I'll go watch it. I was ok with it last year because the way they promoted Universe made it seem epic. But the lack of EVERYTHING they promoted killed the whole game. There was no story in Universe. The one count glitch killed gameplay for me. So all that was left was AE mode, which was just playing through a bunch of matches I've already seen. I really hope we are just getting a crapshoot of legends, and the real focus is where it needs to be, the current era/roster. The big issue here is that you couldn't even remotely fill a full game's roster with relevant current stars. There are maybe 40 stars that are on Smackdown and Raw within a given month, and we're at the point now where we may be getting 150+ if they're smart and use tons of the guys from WWE 13, WWE 12 and SvR 11. It's a very, VERY small percentage of the overall wrestling fan population that care to have "Camacho" or "Hunico" on over someone like Steve Austin or Bret Hart. Story modes in wrestling haven't been fun since the No Mercy days. The games are designed to be played against other people. The one count thing didn't even effect me as I only ever really played against my brother or online.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jul 31, 2013 15:55:48 GMT -5
I wish they would stop with this best of Attitude/Golden Era/WrestleMania bullcrap. It sucked last year, it'll suck this year. If I want to watch the Taker/Mankind Cell match, I'll go watch it. I was ok with it last year because the way they promoted Universe made it seem epic. But the lack of EVERYTHING they promoted killed the whole game. There was no story in Universe. The one count glitch killed gameplay for me. So all that was left was AE mode, which was just playing through a bunch of matches I've already seen. I really hope we are just getting a crapshoot of legends, and the real focus is where it needs to be, the current era/roster. The big issue here is that you couldn't even remotely fill a full game's roster with relevant current stars. There are maybe 40 stars that are on Smackdown and Raw within a given month, and we're at the point now where we may be getting 150+ if they're smart and use tons of the guys from WWE 13, WWE 12 and SvR 11. It's a very, VERY small percentage of the overall wrestling fan population that care to have "Camacho" or "Hunico" on over someone like Steve Austin or Bret Hart. Story modes in wrestling haven't been fun since the No Mercy days. The games are designed to be played against other people. The one count thing didn't even effect me as I only ever really played against my brother or online. I hope we get legends, It's just that they shouldn't overshadow the current roster. I think 150 is a bit of a stretch.. it was 105 last year, so most I see for this year is 110-120. Even that may push it. I disagree that story mode hasn't been fun since No Mercy. SYM, HCTP, SVR 06-07, and 09-11RTWM were fun, for me atleast. Like I said, they need to fix the crap out of Universe. This is how it should be roster wise. Everyone reasonable on current roster, as of Mania, if someone debuts after Mania, and they have time include him. I'm not saying include every person including jobbers like JTG. Just enough that it's generally complete. There are enough roster spots to do that AND include legends. After the current roster is good, then worry about legends legends don't get a story, last year it was just: play this match then this match with a cutscene thrown in randomly. There should be a legit story built around current superstars/CAW, not random blasts from the past that I already own on DVD. As for Universe, that after the roster, needs something great. After last year if this isn't fixed I'll be seriously pissed. It was fun in 11/12, cause there were stories, cutscenes, and rivalries. In 13, it was nothing. This is also wear people can use their legends for stuff, just set everything up. I do think that legends should be based on one period of time, but after last year I don't care as long as the major focus is on the current WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 16:15:50 GMT -5
The big issue here is that you couldn't even remotely fill a full game's roster with relevant current stars. There are maybe 40 stars that are on Smackdown and Raw within a given month, and we're at the point now where we may be getting 150+ if they're smart and use tons of the guys from WWE 13, WWE 12 and SvR 11. It's a very, VERY small percentage of the overall wrestling fan population that care to have "Camacho" or "Hunico" on over someone like Steve Austin or Bret Hart. Story modes in wrestling haven't been fun since the No Mercy days. The games are designed to be played against other people. The one count thing didn't even effect me as I only ever really played against my brother or online. I hope we get legends, It's just that they shouldn't overshadow the current roster. I think 150 is a bit of a stretch.. it was 105 last year, so most I see for this year is 110-120. Even that may push it. I disagree that story mode hasn't been fun since No Mercy. SYM, HCTP, SVR 06-07, and 09-11RTWM were fun, for me atleast. Like I said, they need to fix the crap out of Universe. This is how it should be roster wise. Everyone reasonable on current roster, as of Mania, if someone debuts after Mania, and they have time include him. I'm not saying include every person including jobbers like JTG. Just enough that it's generally complete. There are enough roster spots to do that AND include legends. After the current roster is good, then worry about legends legends don't get a story, last year it was just: play this match then this match with a cutscene thrown in randomly. There should be a legit story built around current superstars/CAW, not random blasts from the past that I already own on DVD. As for Universe, that after the roster, needs something great. After last year if this isn't fixed I'll be seriously pissed. It was fun in 11/12, cause there were stories, cutscenes, and rivalries. In 13, it was nothing. This is also wear people can use their legends for stuff, just set everything up. I do think that legends should be based on one period of time, but after last year I don't care as long as the major focus is on the current WWE. Like I said, the amount of people who actually care about having jobbers is ridiculously low. As long as they get around 50 or so relevant modern stars that'll be enough to keep them happy. And they can add Axel, RVD and some others as DLC. The additions of The Shield alone will keep modern fans happy for the disc. The fact that they've already designed models, moves, entrances, commentary etc for all these characters a lot of the heavy lifting so to speak has been done. They just need to license them for the new game, and in a lot of cases they don't even need to do that (if they're under legends contracts like Nash). Getting a substantial legends roster based on a couple different eras (which pretty much covers every major star in WWE's history anyway) and the modern roster is the best way to go. If they don't put people like Ted Dibiase Jr then they won't lose any sales (except maybe if Ted Jr bought a copy). If they don't put good legends on then they'll lose A LOT of sales.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jul 31, 2013 16:25:40 GMT -5
I hope we get legends, It's just that they shouldn't overshadow the current roster. I think 150 is a bit of a stretch.. it was 105 last year, so most I see for this year is 110-120. Even that may push it. I disagree that story mode hasn't been fun since No Mercy. SYM, HCTP, SVR 06-07, and 09-11RTWM were fun, for me atleast. Like I said, they need to fix the crap out of Universe. This is how it should be roster wise. Everyone reasonable on current roster, as of Mania, if someone debuts after Mania, and they have time include him. I'm not saying include every person including jobbers like JTG. Just enough that it's generally complete. There are enough roster spots to do that AND include legends. After the current roster is good, then worry about legends legends don't get a story, last year it was just: play this match then this match with a cutscene thrown in randomly. There should be a legit story built around current superstars/CAW, not random blasts from the past that I already own on DVD. As for Universe, that after the roster, needs something great. After last year if this isn't fixed I'll be seriously pissed. It was fun in 11/12, cause there were stories, cutscenes, and rivalries. In 13, it was nothing. This is also wear people can use their legends for stuff, just set everything up. I do think that legends should be based on one period of time, but after last year I don't care as long as the major focus is on the current WWE. Like I said, the amount of people who actually care about having jobbers is ridiculously low. As long as they get around 50 or so relevant modern stars that'll be enough to keep them happy. And they can add Axel, RVD and some others as DLC. The additions of The Shield alone will keep modern fans happy for the disc. The fact that they've already designed models, moves, entrances, commentary etc for all these characters a lot of the heavy lifting so to speak has been done. They just need to license them for the new game, and in a lot of cases they don't even need to do that (if they're under legends contracts like Nash). Getting a substantial legends roster based on a couple different eras (which pretty much covers every major star in WWE's history anyway) and the modern roster is the best way to go. If they don't put people like Ted Dibiase Jr then they won't lose any sales (except maybe if Ted Jr bought a copy). If they don't put good legends on then they'll lose A LOT of sales. Like I said they don't need to include every jobber in WWE today, they just need to focus on current for story mode. I wish we could have legends that make since, like last year, it's just that the f'd it up so bad with, a might as well play exhibition Universe, and AE mode that you know what happens before you play, because you've seen it before, so essentially, left with 0 story in WWE 13. If 2K can make legends make sense, without screwing up the game, then by all means, they should, and I'll be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 16:32:50 GMT -5
Like I said, the amount of people who actually care about having jobbers is ridiculously low. As long as they get around 50 or so relevant modern stars that'll be enough to keep them happy. And they can add Axel, RVD and some others as DLC. The additions of The Shield alone will keep modern fans happy for the disc. The fact that they've already designed models, moves, entrances, commentary etc for all these characters a lot of the heavy lifting so to speak has been done. They just need to license them for the new game, and in a lot of cases they don't even need to do that (if they're under legends contracts like Nash). Getting a substantial legends roster based on a couple different eras (which pretty much covers every major star in WWE's history anyway) and the modern roster is the best way to go. If they don't put people like Ted Dibiase Jr then they won't lose any sales (except maybe if Ted Jr bought a copy). If they don't put good legends on then they'll lose A LOT of sales. Like I said they don't need to include every jobber in WWE today, they just need to focus on current for story mode. I wish we could have legends that make since, like last year, it's just that the f'd it up so bad with, a might as well play exhibition Universe, and AE mode that you know what happens before you play, because you've seen it before, so essentially, left with 0 story in WWE 13. If 2K can make legends make sense, without screwing up the game, then by all means, they should, and I'll be happy. The last game was heavily praised for its great story mode. And it was actually a fun story mode. At least it wasn't another "use a caw and rise through the ranks" thing. WWE 12's story was so bad it made me want to cry.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jul 31, 2013 16:48:18 GMT -5
Like I said they don't need to include every jobber in WWE today, they just need to focus on current for story mode. I wish we could have legends that make since, like last year, it's just that the f'd it up so bad with, a might as well play exhibition Universe, and AE mode that you know what happens before you play, because you've seen it before, so essentially, left with 0 story in WWE 13. If 2K can make legends make sense, without screwing up the game, then by all means, they should, and I'll be happy. The last game was heavily praised for its great story mode. And it was actually a fun story mode. At least it wasn't another "use a caw and rise through the ranks" thing. WWE 12's story was so bad it made me want to cry. If I were a new fan, or someone who never knew the Attitude Era, then it'd be great, but I'm neither of those. I had a little fun in some parts, like Rock/Mankind I Quit match, and a few others, I couldn't get that excited when something cool happened, cause I'd seen it 10 times already. Most reviewers for major game sites were seeing stuff for the first time. I'll agree with the CAW thing on WWE 12. The Sheamus and HHH stuff was great, but the only redeeming thing about "Jacob Cass" was that I basically pretended it was Austin Aries with a new WWE name.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jul 31, 2013 17:00:07 GMT -5
Personally, that Phenom edition doesn't interest me in the slightest, but it's cool for people who are interested.
As for whether the roster will be a success or a failure, personally I think it's already a huge success. Then again I'm heavily biased as I've been waiting for them to finally include Ultimate Warrior in a WWE series game since I started buying them yearly with SVR2007.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 17:29:01 GMT -5
WWE 2k14 "Phenom Edition" Includes: WWE 2K14 Exclusive Undertaker packaging (In the shape of a coffin) Ultimate Warrior and American Badass Undertaker DLC WWE 2K14 Undertaker Controller Skin DVD/Blu-Ray of Undertaker Feature Collectable art card personally Autographed by The Undertaker. It's still touch and go as to if they're cluster ing us again, as obviously the ABA could be part of the AE. Ah well, I guess I'll stick with WWE 13 if push comes to shove... Sweet. I wish it had Undertaker on the cover though, to fit the theme. I usually don't go for the special editions, but I may spring for this one. Can't go wrong with ABA Taker either. I hope he has an actual entrance and not just Chuck Palumbo's :/
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Post by dylan on Jul 31, 2013 17:38:30 GMT -5
I'm gonna say this one thing. I honestly don't care about the roster. Whoever is on there I will enjoy. What I AM concerned about though is Universe mode. 11 and 12 were great, how did 13's get so screwed up?
Only other thing I care about is arenas. For some reason I couldn't get use to C-A-A mode. It just didn't feel right to me. Ramps looked off and the lighting was goofy. Hopefully there is a darker lighting for the crowd or ring and crowd lighting are different.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 18:38:30 GMT -5
I'm gonna say this one thing. I honestly don't care about the roster. Whoever is on there I will enjoy. What I AM concerned about though is Universe mode. 11 and 12 were great, how did 13's get so screwed up? Only other thing I care about is arenas. For some reason I couldn't get use to C-A-A mode. It just didn't feel right to me. Ramps looked off and the lighting was goofy. Hopefully there is a darker lighting for the crowd or ring and crowd lighting are different. I hope they make the stage more editable than it was, such as smaller stages for the smaller venues. Maybe a house show style entrance?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 19:47:36 GMT -5
That Phenom Edition looks pretty cool. The only thing I'd be interested in is the ABA DLC, hopefully that'll be available through other sources than just this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 20:05:02 GMT -5
Hopefully he has Thorn In Your Eye as his theme!!!!!!!!!11
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 31, 2013 20:17:21 GMT -5
I didn't buy the Austin version last year, but if this Undertaker Phenom Edition is legit, I'm buying it for sure. That's too awesome to pass up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 20:29:51 GMT -5
Hopefully he has Thorn In Your Eye as his theme!!!!!!!!!11
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 22:02:54 GMT -5
I'm wondering if ABA Taker will be long hair or short hair. Hopefully it's the short haired, 2002 version. He was awesome at that time.
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jul 31, 2013 22:09:46 GMT -5
I'm wondering if ABA Taker will be long hair or short hair. Hopefully it's the short haired, 2002 version. He was awesome at that time. Judging by the picture, it'd look to be the debut version--which is the one I'm personally hoping for. Then again, it's not like the renders always reflect the attires they have.
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