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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 23:25:02 GMT -5
The NAO wrestled Im happy with the show.
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Post by J12 on Mar 4, 2013 23:26:37 GMT -5
The outlook doesn't seem to be getting any better. Almost the entire roster lacks direction, and we've now got four shows left (Smackdown doesn't even count, let's be honest) on the road to Wrestlemania.
Notes...
-The Undertaker starts the show by just walking out and making the Wrestlemania logo appear? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! How could this have possibly been any more lazy? No attempt to build a feud. No attempt to spark interest. He just walks out? Off to a great start.
-Punk's promo was expected. Then we have a host of other guys join the fray, and what's this, not only are they not going to bother to build a feud for The Undertaker, but they're going to let a match determine his opponent? Again, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! It's like Wrestlemania is a gimmick Pay-Per-View and The Undertaker is the gimmick.
-Ryback/Cesaro had a decent match. Again, though, why is Ryback just taking out guys that WWE is supposedly high on and working to build? Makes no sense. Oh, and, Ryback is done with The Shield now? You know, the one guy that they've actually had a legitimate gripe with for months, but apparently that's been blown off?
-Henry squash was pointless, but apparently it's setting up a Ryback/Henry match, which I suppose is fine. Still, though, why is Ryback out of the Shield scenario?
-Good match between Ziggler and Miz. Ziggler loses again, and will almost certainly lose to Del Rio on Smackdown. This is getting to be a really sad joke.
-Prime Time Players get a shred of hope last week on Smackdown, then thrown to the side again tonight. Some tag division we've got now after spending all those months building it up.
-Speaking of the tag division, let's have The New Age Outlaws come in and beat one of the only legitimate tag teams in the company to further cement the division as a total joke.
-Rock/Cena promo was the same schtick as last year. Nothing has changed except the Championship. I couldn't be any less interested in this match if I tried.
-Del Rio/Swagger is, thankfully, heating up. Swagger beating up a bunch of old guys seemed pretty pointless to me, especially when Del Rio didn't come out to make or attempt the save.
-I thought the Shield were past the shaky camera backstage promos, but apparently that's what happens when they have no idea what to do with them. Sounds like Big Show is going to turn face and team with Orton and Sheamus. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn.
-Triple H's promo was what it was. To me, the trading weeks garbage is getting old. If they're going to bring in the big names to work Wrestlemania, they need to commit to work all the TV dates. Not having Lesnar and The Rock around on a semi-weekly basis when they're involved in two of the show's biggest matches is getting old, fast.
-CM Punk interrupting Mae Young's birthday party was the best moment of the show, hands down.
-Fatal 4 Way match was a lot of fun. Glad to see Punk get a legitimate win for once, this might be one of his first in months that wasn't either stolen or completely cheap. Heels can win cleanly on occasion. Still, I think the concept was absolutely ridiculous.
-I'm intrigued by Punk/Taker, but for all the wrong reasons. I'm only interested in the idea of Punk ending the streak, and for all intents and purposes, that's extremely unlikely to happen.
-As usual, Cole and Lawler were absolutely abysmal tonight. Not having a heel commentator simply doesn't work, and between King cracking what he presumed to be jokes, and Cole singing Honkey's theme, I had all I could do not to just mute the TV entirely.
I genuinely hate to complain this much, but honestly, I've never been so disinterested on the road to Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 23:29:09 GMT -5
Whats your beef with the Outlaws if you dont mind me asking?
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 4, 2013 23:29:23 GMT -5
Alright, I missed Raw tonight because my DirectTV box broke, does anybody have a website that will have the full Raw tomorrow? If you do send it to me in PM please? I'll give karma if you want.
Much appreciated, it'll suck to miss a Raw for the first time since 07.
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Post by J12 on Mar 4, 2013 23:33:06 GMT -5
Whats your beef with the Outlaws if you dont mind me asking? If you're referring to me, I don't have a problem with the Outlaws at all, or them making an appearance for that matter, but, why use the time to give them a win? The tag division is floundering after showing a ton of potential just months ago. Why couldn't they, have, say, put over a team like the Prime Time Players? Or even Epico & Primo? The Outlaws can even get revenge after the match if they REALLY wanted them to look good. I'm just all about advancing the here and now, not using the past consistently for nothing more than a feel good moment. Beating the New Age Outlaws could have been a big moment for an up and coming tag team. Billy and Road Dogg gain nothing from winning a match. They won't even be on the show next week.
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Post by Flair Forever on Mar 4, 2013 23:34:15 GMT -5
The outlook doesn't seem to be getting any better. Almost the entire roster lacks direction, and we've now got four shows left (Smackdown doesn't even count, let's be honest) on the road to Wrestlemania. Notes... -The Undertaker starts the show by just walking out and making the Wrestlemania logo appear? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! How could this have possibly been any more lazy? No attempt to build a feud. No attempt to spark interest. He just walks out? Off to a great start. -Punk's promo was expected. Then we have a host of other guys join the fray, and what's this, not only are they not going to bother to build a feud for The Undertaker, but they're going to let a match determine his opponent? Again, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! It's like Wrestlemania is a gimmick Pay-Per-View and The Undertaker is the gimmick. -Ryback/Cesaro had a decent match. Again, though, why is Ryback just taking out guys that WWE is supposedly high on and working to build? Makes no sense. Oh, and, Ryback is done with The Shield now? You know, the one guy that they've actually had a legitimate gripe with for months, but apparently that's been blown off? -Henry squash was pointless, but apparently it's setting up a Ryback/Henry match, which I suppose is fine. Still, though, why is Ryback out of the Shield scenario? -Good match between Ziggler and Miz. Ziggler loses again, and will almost certainly lose to Del Rio on Smackdown. This is getting to be a really sad joke. -Prime Time Players get a shred of hope last week on Smackdown, then thrown to the side again tonight. Some tag division we've got now after spending all those months building it up. -Speaking of the tag division, let's have The New Age Outlaws come in and beat one of the only legitimate tag teams in the company to further cement the division as a total joke. -Rock/Cena promo was the same schtick as last year. Nothing has changed except the Championship. I couldn't be any less interested in this match if I tried. -Del Rio/Swagger is, thankfully, heating up. Swagger beating up a bunch of old guys seemed pretty pointless to me, especially when Del Rio didn't come out to make or attempt the save. -I thought the Shield were past the shaky camera backstage promos, but apparently that's what happens when they have no idea what to do with them. Sounds like Big Show is going to turn face and team with Orton and Sheamus. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. -Triple H's promo was what it was. To me, the trading weeks garbage is getting old. If they're going to bring in the big names to work Wrestlemania, they need to commit to work all the TV dates. Not having Lesnar and The Rock around on a semi-weekly basis when they're involved in two of the show's biggest matches is getting old, fast. -CM Punk interrupting Mae Young's birthday party was the best moment of the show, hands down. -Fatal 4 Way match was a lot of fun. Glad to see Punk get a legitimate win for once, this might be one of his first in months that wasn't either stolen or completely cheap. Heels can win cleanly on occasion. Still, I think the concept was absolutely ridiculous. -I'm intrigued by Punk/Taker, but for all the wrong reasons. I'm only interested in the idea of Punk ending the streak, and for all intents and purposes, that's extremely unlikely to happen. -As usual, Cole and Lawler were absolutely abysmal tonight. Not having a heel commentator simply doesn't work, and between King cracking what he presumed to be jokes, and Cole singing Honkey's theme, I had all I could do not to just mute the TV entirely. I genuinely hate to complain this much, but honestly, I've never been so disinterested on the road to Wrestlemania. All great points. I just want to enjoy watching the shows, sometimes it feels like a chore to watch & make sense out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 23:39:18 GMT -5
I still don't get why they're burying Ziggler. The guy is a future World Champion and he's nothing more than a joke. They might as well have him lose the case at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 23:39:45 GMT -5
Whats your beef with the Outlaws if you dont mind me asking? If you're referring to me, I don't have a problem with the Outlaws at all, or them making an appearance for that matter, but, why use the time to give them a win? The tag division is floundering after showing a ton of potential just months ago. Why couldn't they, have, say, put over a team like the Prime Time Players? Or even Epico & Primo? The Outlaws can even get revenge after the match if they REALLY wanted them to look good. I'm just all about advancing the here and now, not using the past consistently for nothing more than a feel good moment. Beating the New Age Outlaws could have been a big moment for an up and coming tag team. Billy and Road Dogg gain nothing from winning a match. They won't even be on the show next week. Fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 23:41:14 GMT -5
Whats your beef with the Outlaws if you dont mind me asking? If you're referring to me, I don't have a problem with the Outlaws at all, or them making an appearance for that matter, but, why use the time to give them a win? The tag division is floundering after showing a ton of potential just months ago. Why couldn't they, have, say, put over a team like the Prime Time Players? Or even Epico & Primo? The Outlaws can even get revenge after the match if they REALLY wanted them to look good. I'm just all about advancing the here and now, not using the past consistently for nothing more than a feel good moment. Beating the New Age Outlaws could have been a big moment for an up and coming tag team. Billy and Road Dogg gain nothing from winning a match. They won't even be on the show next week. To be fair neither with Primo and Epico, but I agree with you
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Post by J12 on Mar 4, 2013 23:42:52 GMT -5
If you're referring to me, I don't have a problem with the Outlaws at all, or them making an appearance for that matter, but, why use the time to give them a win? The tag division is floundering after showing a ton of potential just months ago. Why couldn't they, have, say, put over a team like the Prime Time Players? Or even Epico & Primo? The Outlaws can even get revenge after the match if they REALLY wanted them to look good. I'm just all about advancing the here and now, not using the past consistently for nothing more than a feel good moment. Beating the New Age Outlaws could have been a big moment for an up and coming tag team. Billy and Road Dogg gain nothing from winning a match. They won't even be on the show next week. Fair enough For the record, I actually thought their appearance was one of the highlights of the show, haha. I'm usually not for random legend appearances just for a pop, but I've always liked the Outlaws, and they can still go. Truthfully, I wouldn't mind seeing them work a semi-regular schedule for a little while just to TRY to breathe some life back in that division. Like I said, I think teams could gain a lot by having competitive matches against them, and winning.
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Post by J12 on Mar 4, 2013 23:48:33 GMT -5
If you're referring to me, I don't have a problem with the Outlaws at all, or them making an appearance for that matter, but, why use the time to give them a win? The tag division is floundering after showing a ton of potential just months ago. Why couldn't they, have, say, put over a team like the Prime Time Players? Or even Epico & Primo? The Outlaws can even get revenge after the match if they REALLY wanted them to look good. I'm just all about advancing the here and now, not using the past consistently for nothing more than a feel good moment. Beating the New Age Outlaws could have been a big moment for an up and coming tag team. Billy and Road Dogg gain nothing from winning a match. They won't even be on the show next week. To be fair neither with Primo and Epico, but I agree with you Haha, I actually thought about that after. You're most likely right, unless they need punching bags for Clay and Tensai or something. I suppose the principle of the idea still stands, though.
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Post by HydroX on Mar 4, 2013 23:58:40 GMT -5
Personally, I felt tonight's show was one of the better RAW shows since RAW 1000. Sure, it had some low points, but you can't have a perfect show.... As for NAO winning -- it was more a treat to the fans. There's no ing way I'd ever believe that Epico/Primo or PTP (as much as I love them) could beat Road Dogg & Billy Gunn. Give me an effing break. Besides, nobody gives two flying s about the tag team division. Neither should you, because at this point, the plug was pulled years ago... it's time to let it go.
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Post by J12 on Mar 5, 2013 0:05:43 GMT -5
Personally, I felt tonight's show was one of the better RAW shows since RAW 1000. Sure, it had some low points, but you can't have a perfect show.... As for NAO winning -- it was more a treat to the fans. There's no ing way I'd ever believe that Epico/Primo or PTP (as much as I love them) could beat Road Dogg & Billy Gunn. Give me an effing break. Besides, nobody gives two flying s about the tag team division. Neither should you, because at this point, the plug was pulled years ago... it's time to let it go. If this were even a year ago, I'd probably agree with you, but just months ago, the tag division was flourishing. There were a bunch of up and coming, competitive teams, Bryan and Kane were legitimate and credible Champions, they had a highly advertised and hyped tournament to decide number one contenders, and then it all fell apart for absolutely no reason other than laziness. It produced some pretty good matches, too. As for NAO, they haven't been active for years. I don't think it's that hard to believe a modern team could get a win over them, even if it was a cheap win.
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Post by Rob on Mar 5, 2013 0:12:42 GMT -5
Wrestlemania is a huge cluster this year. Everything is just getting thrown together just to get all the top stars on the show. Henry/Ryback? CM Punk/Undertaker? Bigshow/Orton/Sheamus vs Shield? None of these matches make ANY sense. WWE has gotten so lazy with building legitimate fueds. Its just a huge boring snooze fest right now. Antonio Ceasaro VS Ryback for the US Title wouldve been a great match for WM. Wouldve gave Antonio a big match and Ryback a singles title. No we are setting up Mark Henry/Ryback out of nowhere. CM Punk, The guy who shouldve been in the WWE title match is thrown into a random match with Undertaker because he won a fatal four way match. LOL. Since WWE is so lazy in creating a good well thought out show, Im going to be just as lazy and not order the PPV.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Mar 5, 2013 0:38:20 GMT -5
I liked the show tonight. Loved that Punk got a clean - and let's face it, pretty big win tonight.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Mar 5, 2013 2:00:31 GMT -5
OMG THE UNDERTAKER WTF THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD LOL <- Punk's sister, probably. Rather enjoyed tonight's show, even if Taker's return was like something from SmackDown Vs. Raw. How Mae Young is still alive is beyond me, good for her. The Rock Cena promo was better than their entire feud last year. There should've been more Old School themes & attires. Main event was predictable but nonetheless fun. Can't wait for the Punk/Taker interaction. Really cool seeing the Outlaws. Liked Triple H's promo & am enjoying this feud. Do Divas even exist anymore? They're sure building Ziggler up strong.. Fahn. Dahng. Go.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Mar 5, 2013 2:24:18 GMT -5
The only thing I would have changed tonight was how Punk and Taker was set up. A more simple yet effective way to start out would have just been Punk coming out complaining that Cena winning was a fluke and how it shouldn't have happened. Punk can go on to talk about his long reign and how nobody could beat him and that hes done it all........GONG, Arrive, Talk, Leave.
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Post by wabarrett on Mar 5, 2013 6:02:18 GMT -5
'Throwaway' my ass, lol. Thought it was a pretty great show.
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Post by Rule 30 on Mar 5, 2013 6:21:15 GMT -5
Punk interrupting the birthday party was great, but the best moment of the show was Flair faking the handshake on the one fan only to slick his hair back and strut down the ramp.
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Post by Mirror Images on Mar 5, 2013 6:53:25 GMT -5
The old skool theme seemed somewhat out of place and pointless for me last night. Hopefully that was the last old skool raw we will see.
Wouldnt mind an old skool nitro though.
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