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Post by AliciaFox#1fan4life on Mar 26, 2013 18:30:46 GMT -5
After today's hearing, where do you think the judges are leaning towards? Yes on legalizing gay marriage or no?
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 26, 2013 18:42:37 GMT -5
Where in the Constitution does the Federal Government have the right to determine the legality of marriage?
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Post by AliciaFox#1fan4life on Mar 26, 2013 18:44:15 GMT -5
what are you saying?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 20:15:11 GMT -5
The government doesn't have the right to define marriage.
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Post by slappy on Mar 26, 2013 20:18:08 GMT -5
If the government is going to allow straight marriage then there is absolutely zero reason gay marriage should not be allowed.
Supposedly the Court is pretty iffy about a broad ruling but we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 20:24:04 GMT -5
Why shouldn't they allow it ? Gay Marriage won't hurt the economy.
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Post by Tim of thee on Mar 26, 2013 20:26:01 GMT -5
just legalize it already..
it hurts nobody where it is legal
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 26, 2013 21:57:43 GMT -5
They made a great point today....some people were trying to say that the basis for marriage is to produce children and that gay people can't conceive children. If that is the case, then nobody over the age of 55 should be legally allowed to get married, people who are infertile should be prevented from getting married, and couples who do not want children should be prevented from getting married.
And anyone using the bible as a reason.....not everyone is religious, and not everyone follows the bible. So why should those people be forced to live by the backwards rules of somebody else's religion?
Anybody who is not gay and somehow believes that their lives are going to be affected if gay people start getting married are either misinformed, hate filled, or just plain out of touch. Just go on living your life and doing the things you do and if gay people are getting married right now it doesn't affect them in one bit.
This whole issue is mind boggling to me and I can't even comprehend people who are against gay marriage.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 22:45:05 GMT -5
I think the Supreme Court will not legalize same-sex marriage. It is what it is.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 26, 2013 23:58:41 GMT -5
If the government is going to allow straight marriage then there is absolutely zero reason gay marriage should not be allowed. Completely agreed, my friend. But the government.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Mar 27, 2013 0:16:14 GMT -5
There's no reason for government to be involved in defining marriage whatsoever. Under freedom of association, two individuals, gay or straight, should be able to find a church and get married.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 27, 2013 0:18:33 GMT -5
There's no reason for government to be involved in defining marriage whatsoever. Under freedom of association, two individuals, gay or straight, should be able to find a church and get married. Hear, hear! Or NOT a Church, if they so choose.
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Post by slappy on Mar 27, 2013 0:20:56 GMT -5
There's no reason for government to be involved in defining marriage whatsoever. Under freedom of association, two individuals, gay or straight, should be able to find a church and get married. Why stop at two individuals? If a group of 6 want to marry into a polygamous marriage I believe they should be able to.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Mar 27, 2013 0:23:40 GMT -5
It's ridiculous that this is even an issue, it should have been allowed a long time ago. It's inexcusable that it took this long.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 27, 2013 0:29:31 GMT -5
There's no reason for government to be involved in defining marriage whatsoever. Under freedom of association, two individuals, gay or straight, should be able to find a church and get married. Why stop at two individuals? If a group of 6 want to marry into a polygamous marriage I believe they should be able to. Yup. Of course, gotta take away the state benefits for marriage in order for this to work.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Mar 27, 2013 0:49:11 GMT -5
There's no reason for government to be involved in defining marriage whatsoever. Under freedom of association, two individuals, gay or straight, should be able to find a church and get married. Why stop at two individuals? If a group of 6 want to marry into a polygamous marriage I believe they should be able to. Agreed
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Post by Adam on Mar 27, 2013 6:32:44 GMT -5
They made a great point today....some people were trying to say that the basis for marriage is to produce children and that gay people can't conceive children. If that is the case, then nobody over the age of 55 should be legally allowed to get married, people who are infertile should be prevented from getting married, and couples who do not want children should be prevented from getting married. And anyone using the bible as a reason.....not everyone is religious, and not everyone follows the bible. So why should those people be forced to live by the backwards rules of somebody else's religion? Anybody who is not gay and somehow believes that their lives are going to be affected if gay people start getting married are either misinformed, hate filled, or just plain out of touch. Just go on living your life and doing the things you do and if gay people are getting married right now it doesn't affect them in one bit. This whole issue is mind boggling to me and I can't even comprehend people who are against gay marriage.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Mar 27, 2013 7:39:27 GMT -5
Where in the Constitution does the Federal Government have the right to determine the legality of marriage? Do you support the federal government legalising it, or do you support it being an issue for the states to decide under the 10th Amendment? I would've thought you would support the latter, as an advocate of the Constitution.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 14:50:45 GMT -5
I feel there should be no such thing as "marriage," or at least no governmental tax break for it. At the same time, taxes should be so low that it shouldn't matter.
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Post by LeighD on Mar 28, 2013 7:49:30 GMT -5
They made a great point today....some people were trying to say that the basis for marriage is to produce children and that gay people can't conceive children. If that is the case, then nobody over the age of 55 should be legally allowed to get married, people who are infertile should be prevented from getting married, and couples who do not want children should be prevented from getting married. And anyone using the bible as a reason.....not everyone is religious, and not everyone follows the bible. So why should those people be forced to live by the backwards rules of somebody else's religion? Anybody who is not gay and somehow believes that their lives are going to be affected if gay people start getting married are either misinformed, hate filled, or just plain out of touch. Just go on living your life and doing the things you do and if gay people are getting married right now it doesn't affect them in one bit. This whole issue is mind boggling to me and I can't even comprehend people who are against gay marriage. Very well said! I can understand if people feel homosexuality is a sin as thos epeople live by the Bible. I too am a religious person but do not feel the same way. Depends on what version of the Bible and what reglion you follow. But outside of that notion I don't understand people against gay marriage. Its not like you are being forced to go to the wedding or send gifts or whatnot. In my eyes this issue is parallel to women's rights and black's rights decades ago. There was dispute but eventually it came to surface what rightfully should have been. I hope gay marriage is passed as I see only positives surrounding this action, not to mention a huge step forward in human evolution.
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