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Post by mesteve on May 30, 2013 18:37:01 GMT -5
I couldn't resist! I'm the one who purchased the vinyl figure. I really wanted the painted figure which I thought looked awesome but the price went way over my budget so I saw this as my only chance to get a version of this figure. I had some spare cash on hand for this one so I jumped on it. I should have it in hand by tomorrow or Saturday, and I can't wait to take a look at it in person. As a long time fan of the Sarge, I've always wanted a more realistic Sgt. Slaughter, and this is the best one I've seen, custom or not. Of couse I hope it turns out to be legit, but even if it doesn't I'm glad I was able to snag the figure. I'm not really sure how we find that out for sure. I really thought the Hasbro figure never fit in with the rest of the line so I can't wait to put it side by side with other LJN figure. The seller said it measured about 8 1/2 inches, which will make him pretty tall in comparison. I'm hoping it was just an estimation, and that he's no taller than 8 inches. If it's doable, I would like to make a mold and cast a copy of this guy and paint him for my personal collection someday.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 19:32:58 GMT -5
congrats! i know it's real! .....you need the hat! www.EBAY LINK NOT ALLOWED/itm/WRESTLING-FIGURE-CAST-RESIN-HARD-COPY-PROTOTYPE-HAT-SGT-SLAUGHTER-BY-LJN-TOYS-/251281939740?pt=US_Solo_Sports_Fan_Shop&hash=item3a81921d1c
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Post by mesteve on May 30, 2013 20:16:08 GMT -5
How can we be sure you're not the seller?? You seem to be talking up these figures pretty good, haha. I almost asked the seller if there was another hat. Who knows, maybe there wasn't until today. I think I can do without the hat though. For me, its really about getting the figures that I always wanted growing up that were never made. If these Slaughter figures are indeed customs, which I think is very plausible if somebody had both the talent and the proper machinery, its too bad they're not advertised as such. There's still money to be made for very well made customs. That is how I justified paying so much for this figure. From what I've seen other customs go for on Ebay, and comparing the detail in this figure to some of those figures, I paid the extra for the quality of work which you don't see everyday with LJN customs, assuming this is in fact a custom. In fact, if anyone has the talent to create these figures, they should start sculpting away, creating those series 6 figures never produced, and continue with others never made. **BUT they should be advertised as CUSTOMS, and if they look as good as the painted Slaughter, I know they would still fetch very good money. Now just give me a quality Smash and Bad News with their own original sculpt, and I can die a happy man. lol
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 20:31:10 GMT -5
lol!!! no not me...i just hate all the sh_t talkin, i mean, it's okay to be skeptical, but so many people cry foul without any consideration....i myself, want to believe, and i always get excited when something amazing like this surfaces...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 19:26:29 GMT -5
Hey Guys, first timer here. I do collect prototypes and have spent a considerable amount from this particular eBay seller. Now I've been seeing what looks like duplicates and unpainted versions from the same seller? This seems a little more then a red flag. The prototypes are beautiful don't get me wrong and could be amazing customs. But are they from LJN from the 1980's as advertised? Jason have you got anymore more info on the paint tests you were going to conduct? And maybe they were salesman copies which would make more sense (as previously mentioned) reasoning why there were more then one copy. Ok thanks everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 4:39:13 GMT -5
Incredible
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 22:07:20 GMT -5
It seems like after some initial skepticism, the forum now seems split down the middle on whether this is a legitimate prototype/sample...
In Malcolm Gladwell's Blink, I remember him talking about how an ancient art expert can look at a statue and instantly tell if it is a forgery. The interesting thing is they don't even consciously know how they know...they just do.
Thinking about it like that, I don't see an LJN figure here (and certainly not a Series 1 figure). This may have been created by an employee or someone else connected to LJN, but I'd be more likely to believe this mold was made "for the heck of it" or was one that didn't come out quite right and was scrapped. I don't see this as a figure that was close to mass production.
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Post by Wrestling with Classics on Jun 9, 2013 18:50:18 GMT -5
Wow I've never seen this before, very nice, might have to hit up eBay and try to get me one
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Post by familyguy84 on Jun 13, 2013 15:44:22 GMT -5
Any update on this Mesteve?
Is the figure now in hand?
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Post by mesteve on Jun 14, 2013 21:32:13 GMT -5
Sorry for not getting back sooner, but I've been fixated on the Rhythm and Blues threads. Received the figure, and the hat! I know I said I could do without the hat, but I don't think I was being honest with myself. This figure is pretty awesome. Its the coolest LJN, or "LJN type" figure I've ever seen, and I have to say he's now my favorite. I'm actually glad I ended up getting this vinyl figure instead of the hard resin figure. This guy is an 8 inch bendy!!! The likeness is spot on in my opinion, and he's soft and rubbery just like the produced figures, and I'm not going to lie, I've already held a few matches with this guy. My only disappointment is that his rank isn't on the front of the hat. I'll see if I can post some pictures.
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Post by mesteve on Jun 14, 2013 21:47:31 GMT -5
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Post by mesteve on Jun 14, 2013 21:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by mesteve on Jun 14, 2013 21:50:09 GMT -5
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Post by ozz on Jun 14, 2013 21:52:58 GMT -5
Haha, that's awesome. Like collectible cars, it's nice to see some things "played with".
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Post by familyguy84 on Jun 15, 2013 4:50:47 GMT -5
The figure looks great and fits well with the other LJNs.
The likeness is better than the mail away as well.
Can't comment on legitimacy but not unrealistic that sgt was meant for release given he was a big name in 84 but given WWF didn't have ownership rights that release was refused and production stopped. Hasbro then made their own figure in the LJN style when request by GI Joe.
Just weird it's taken so long to surface.
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Post by speeddemon on Jul 5, 2013 21:42:19 GMT -5
Neat custom
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 12:50:55 GMT -5
Where did you get that Sgt Slaughter figure and how much did it cost? Are there any more. I want it Sorry for not getting back sooner, but I've been fixated on the Rhythm and Blues threads. Received the figure, and the hat! I know I said I could do without the hat, but I don't think I was being honest with myself. This figure is pretty awesome. Its the coolest LJN, or "LJN type" figure I've ever seen, and I have to say he's now my favorite. I'm actually glad I ended up getting this vinyl figure instead of the hard resin figure. This guy is an 8 inch bendy!!! The likeness is spot on in my opinion, and he's soft and rubbery just like the produced figures, and I'm not going to lie, I've already held a few matches with this guy. My only disappointment is that his rank isn't on the front of the hat. I'll see if I can post some pictures.
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Post by hoganvspiper on Aug 16, 2013 17:14:23 GMT -5
Is this the only thread discussing the alleged Sgt Slaughter prototype? Jason, do you have any additional info to pass along regarding your research and findings?
I'm also an Indiana Jones fan, and I know the original seller (Mary) has offered multiple sets of those prototypes. When the first set was offered, it was advertised as 'get it before it's gone' until another set appeared. I have serious doubts that this Slaughter prototype is real. If you're buying with the thought that it's a well-made custom, then that's a safe bet. Customs of this quality also have a value attached to them.
If the maker is looking to make a buck, it probably would have been better to advertise them as a custom and sell one every month or so at a lower price. If just anybody could make a custom as good as this, you would see many more of them. So again, the experience and art of creating this figure has its own value.
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Post by mesteve on Aug 17, 2013 18:27:26 GMT -5
I'm very interested in hearing back from Jason as well on whether or not he was able to determine anything on the authenticity.
In reading an older post from a few years back, I came across something about a regular sized LJN Snuka with wires inserted in his arms, and also a post about an original LJN Hogan in a commercial with bendable arms. I think I found the referenced commercial with the Hogan figure where a kid is bending his arms together, and I don't think the arms look to be wired since they snap back into position. But as for the Snuka post, I'm curious if anyone has more information on that. My unpainted Slaughter figure in the pics above has wires in the arms and legs too, so I'm wondering if there's any legitimacy of early plans for full sized bendy figures at LJN.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2013 21:40:42 GMT -5
Hey,
I have had a conversation with Sergeant Slaughter himself and showed him the two figures I have (one painted and one not painted). He did confirm to me that LJN did have a Sergeant Slaughter figure made in his likeness that was to be released in the LJN line. He confirmed to be that the design of the prototypes I have is what the figure looked like and that he has seen full painted resin copies of the figure when the line was in the developmental process. He told me that this figure was what had him actually leave the WWF because the WWF could not market him the way they wanted to. After LJN realized they could not release the figure due to the contract issues with Hasbro and GIJOE, they refigured and modified the mould and turned it into Jimmy Superfly Snuka's action figure, which is why his figure's pose does not reflect him well as a character. I did not send it away to the US to be evaluated as I do fear it to be broken the more it gets handled as they do feel very fragile and plus I was content with the conversation I had with Slaughter. These prototypes are way to difficult to make and too detailed to fake. Also the sellers have resin copies of alot of the figures and they are perfect matches to the actual toy figure themselves (the reason why this one is so hard to match up is because there is nothing to compare it to as it was never released). I am confident in saying that this figure is 100% real. There is no way she can make all these LJN prototypes realistically speaking. Also, I had many conversations with the former LJN employee and in my opinion she is as honest and real as it gets. She told me a lot of history and such that only an employee would know.
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