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Post by Hulkamaniac on Apr 23, 2013 22:19:53 GMT -5
Its completely legal at the moment. Sent from my XT907 using proboards Depends on where you live. It's illegal in numerous states. Nevertheless, this sets the precedent that it IS legal and even that it is encouraged. I'm gonna call BS on that. To my knowledge it's completely legal everywhere though some states have tried to pass laws against it. I'd like to see your sources.
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 23, 2013 22:41:40 GMT -5
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Post by King Silva on Apr 23, 2013 22:47:19 GMT -5
I almost forgot that CA restricted this so it won't affect me however I still find it troubling..
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 23, 2013 22:57:42 GMT -5
I almost forgot that CA restricted this so it won't affect me however I still find it troubling.. Don't be so sure. Just look at the marijuana situation out there.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Apr 23, 2013 23:10:47 GMT -5
Since we elect officials, I demand under CISPA to have access to all their passwords. My taxpayer dollars go to their salaries after all.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Apr 23, 2013 23:26:23 GMT -5
I stand corrected. My point still stands though. Prior to 4 months ago there were no laws like this on the books and no reports of this happening. In 44 states it's not against the law and no one does anything.
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Post by slappy on Apr 23, 2013 23:39:02 GMT -5
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Apr 23, 2013 23:59:27 GMT -5
I don't care whether or not I have anything to hide (I have plenty as I want nobody to know anything about me), this is ridiculous. I will gladly leave the country over this. If this comes up I will gladly delete my Facebook. As much as I hate the idea of losing the internet, I far more hate the idea of people knowing anything and everything about me, no matter who they are. You should never lose the right to choose who you disclose to. You are pretty much blackmailed into doing so in this case. No disclosure, no job. There is a life outside of work, and this essentially destroys that. You are a full cog in the machine, unable to express any thought that goes against the "philosophy of the corporation". This is only the beginning, and you sheep who seem to have no problem with this deserve whatever you get. You disgust me, and its this ambivalence that gets these watchdog acts passed.
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Post by Epic Z on Apr 24, 2013 0:02:24 GMT -5
Looks like i'm deleting my Facebook.
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Post by slappy on Apr 24, 2013 0:16:45 GMT -5
Looks like i'm deleting my Facebook. So you have something to hide?
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Post by Joey Cush on Apr 24, 2013 0:30:22 GMT -5
So they can read your personal messages and everything? Thats cool.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Apr 24, 2013 9:58:03 GMT -5
How anyone can say 'I don't have anything to hide, so this doesn't bother me' is beyond me.
It's not even to do with whether you have anything to hide or not. This is just an example of governments taking away your freedom. In a couple of decades, it'll be normal to have your lives completely monitored and your privacy will be a thing of the past.
Crazy stuff.
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Post by AdamBomb on Apr 24, 2013 10:05:54 GMT -5
OH NOEZ MAH EMPLOYER WHEEL FINDS OUT I LIKES D COMIX BOOKS, NEKKID LADIES, N I COLLECT TOYS.
Yeah, I'm not really worried.
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Post by T R W on Apr 24, 2013 10:07:58 GMT -5
Where I work they often scour people's pages for information about them. Surprising how many people keep their profile public. They actually recently considered asking for facebook and twitter passwords during the hiring process for staff, but eventually they decided not to.
A lot of people are desperate for jobs and are willing to let employers violate their privacy to get a job. Some places have asked people to sign into their accounts and let the HR person view their page. Personally, I would rather work at McDonalds than allow that to happen.
Now people who are dumb enough to talk about their job on a public profile, and then are fired, well, it is hard to be sympathetic for that.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Apr 24, 2013 11:06:30 GMT -5
good solution to this: don't use Facebook.
The entire idea of Facebook, as it's used, is exposing details of your private life. You're posting updates about things people otherwise wouldn't know. You're putting up pictures of things. You're publicly adding a mark that "I LIKE THIS!!". The best solution if you don't want people inside of this world is to not exist there.
I use Twitter, very rarely.. I mostly just talk to wrestling friends and retweet goofy things. If a potential employer asked for my password, I'd tell them no, but that they can look at the page. If talking old school (50s and 60s, not 1998 you dolts) wrestling with Derryck St. Holmes is enough to deny me employment, then it's not a job I want or need anyways.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Apr 24, 2013 11:54:24 GMT -5
Where I work they often scour people's pages for information about them. Surprising how many people keep their profile public. They actually recently considered asking for facebook and twitter passwords during the hiring process for staff, but eventually they decided not to. A lot of people are desperate for jobs and are willing to let employers violate their privacy to get a job. Some places have asked people to sign into their accounts and let the HR person view their page. Personally, I would rather work at McDonalds than allow that to happen. Now people who are dumb enough to talk about their job on a public profile, and then are fired, well, it is hard to be sympathetic for that. Personally, I'm not aware of any situations where an employer asked for an employees FB password and/or access to their FB page. Please feel free to link me to examples as I'm not aware of it every happening. Now, I'm very aware of employers perusing employees social networking accounts. I have no issues at all with that. If you post something online with the idea of it being public, then you can't be ticked if your employer sees what you've made public and takes issue with it. Either don't post it or make it private.
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 24, 2013 12:49:00 GMT -5
Where I work they often scour people's pages for information about them. Surprising how many people keep their profile public. They actually recently considered asking for facebook and twitter passwords during the hiring process for staff, but eventually they decided not to. A lot of people are desperate for jobs and are willing to let employers violate their privacy to get a job. Some places have asked people to sign into their accounts and let the HR person view their page. Personally, I would rather work at McDonalds than allow that to happen. Now people who are dumb enough to talk about their job on a public profile, and then are fired, well, it is hard to be sympathetic for that. Personally, I'm not aware of any situations where an employer asked for an employees FB password and/or access to their FB page. Please feel free to link me to examples as I'm not aware of it every happening. Now, I'm very aware of employers perusing employees social networking accounts. I have no issues at all with that. If you post something online with the idea of it being public, then you can't be ticked if your employer sees what you've made public and takes issue with it. Either don't post it or make it private. www.businessinsider.com/empoyers-ask-for-facebook-password-2012-3good solution to this: don't use Facebook. The entire idea of Facebook, as it's used, is exposing details of your private life. You're posting updates about things people otherwise wouldn't know. You're putting up pictures of things. You're publicly adding a mark that "I LIKE THIS!!". The best solution if you don't want people inside of this world is to not exist there. I use Twitter, very rarely.. I mostly just talk to wrestling friends and retweet goofy things. If a potential employer asked for my password, I'd tell them no, but that they can look at the page. If talking old school (50s and 60s, not 1998 you dolts) wrestling with Derryck St. Holmes is enough to deny me employment, then it's not a job I want or need anyways. You don't HAVE TO live in a house, either, but if you want to, that shouldn't negate your Fourth Amendment right to privacy. Your employer shouldn't just be able to walk in your house at any time and start going through your stuff. That's what this is akin to.
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Post by Nick the Quick on Apr 24, 2013 13:35:03 GMT -5
Legal or not that's a serious invasion of privacy. The only person who knows my facebook and twitter passwords is me, and it will stay that way. If a company isn't going to hire me based on something I posted on facebook or twitter, then I don't want to work for that company. I don't have a problem with a potential employer looking them up, I have nothing to hide, so go ahead, but to ask for the passwords is just insane.
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Post by Kliquid on Apr 24, 2013 13:45:01 GMT -5
Legal or not that's a serious invasion of privacy. The only person who knows my facebook and twitter passwords is me, and it will stay that way. If a company isn't going to hire me based on something I posted on facebook or twitter, then I don't want to work for that company. I don't have a problem with a potential employer looking them up, I have nothing to hide, so go ahead, but to ask for the passwords is just insane. The "I have nothing to hide" argument is so flawed, it's ridiculous. The fact that you have nothing to hide is EXACTLY WHY no one should be snooping through your shit. You're not a criminal. You've done nothing wrong. Have some pride in your right to privacy. If not for you, for other people.
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Post by slappy on Apr 24, 2013 14:37:28 GMT -5
Where I work they often scour people's pages for information about them. Surprising how many people keep their profile public. They actually recently considered asking for facebook and twitter passwords during the hiring process for staff, but eventually they decided not to. A lot of people are desperate for jobs and are willing to let employers violate their privacy to get a job. Some places have asked people to sign into their accounts and let the HR person view their page. Personally, I would rather work at McDonalds than allow that to happen. Now people who are dumb enough to talk about their job on a public profile, and then are fired, well, it is hard to be sympathetic for that. Personally, I'm not aware of any situations where an employer asked for an employees FB password and/or access to their FB page. Please feel free to link me to examples as I'm not aware of it every happening. Now, I'm very aware of employers perusing employees social networking accounts. I have no issues at all with that. If you post something online with the idea of it being public, then you can't be ticked if your employer sees what you've made public and takes issue with it. Either don't post it or make it private. I already posted this link once but I'll post it again. news.yahoo.com/job-seekers-getting-asked-facebook-passwords-071251682.html
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