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Post by Justin on Oct 13, 2014 16:29:02 GMT -5
I've binged watched from Eccelston to the end of Matt Smith's first season. Love the show. Just curious how is the new doctor, I've liked every Doctor and my sister says the new one sucks so far.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Oct 14, 2014 12:51:36 GMT -5
Well I think it's too early to tell (I think I'll be able to answer that question come the end of this series), but so far the Twelfth Doctor is still a mystery. So far he's come across as grumpy and mostly unlikeable. The Doctor's motto of "never cruel or cowardly" isn't one that the Twelfth Doctor follows. So far he's been cruel and cowardly.
It's nothing to do with Peter Capaldi though. Capaldi is a great actor, and has been giving great performances in the role. The writing simply isn't up to scratch this year, I feel, certainly in terms of The Doctor's character. Obviously we're in for some long term character development for the Twelfth Doctor, but I just hope they make him more likeable by the series finale. At the moment for the most part he is just fundamentally unlikeable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 2:20:54 GMT -5
I am loving this season so far! I think Capaldi is so great at bringing the seriousness and the funny. Loved tonight's episode, thought it was a cool villain. A better, creepier version of "Fear Her." The entire "Heaven" plot-line has got me hooked. Every time there is a scene in "Heaven", I get goosebumps. I don't know what "Pickwell's" role is but it is intriguing. Especially at the end of this episode.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Oct 26, 2014 6:04:47 GMT -5
'In The Forest Of The Night' was a nice, relaxing episode. It was never going to be one of the greatest of all time, nor was it supposed to be an action packed thriller. It was supposed to just be a nice little relaxing episode before the epic finale. I for one quite enjoyed it, though I doubt it'll be an episode I'll want to watch again.
However that next time trailer though..... My god! I am still in shock over how amazing that next time trailer looked! To be honest I've found Series 8 to have been one of the most disappointing series in Doctor Who, but this finale might change that. The wait till next Saturday night is going to be brutal.
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Post by TX on Nov 9, 2014 12:11:41 GMT -5
However that next time trailer though..... My god! I am still in shock over how amazing that next time trailer looked! To be honest I've found Series 8 to have been one of the most disappointing series in Doctor Who, but this finale might change that. The wait till next Saturday night is going to be brutal.Agreed and unfortunately the finale didn't change that for me. It wasn't a bad season, just.. disappointing. The seasonal arcs just seemed to have much better payoffs than Series 8's was.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 15:55:27 GMT -5
Personally I enjoyed the finale. I'm actually looking forward to rewatching this season to see if my opinion on it changes. Either way I know I love Capaldi as The Doctor.
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Post by TX on Nov 10, 2014 11:05:09 GMT -5
Personally I enjoyed the finale. I'm actually looking forward to rewatching this season to see if my opinion on it changes. Either way I know I love Capaldi as The Doctor. I enjoyed the finale and I'm definitely enjoying Capaldi's Doctor but it just felt like this season was a bit lacking on something that I can't quite put my finger on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 17:26:41 GMT -5
Personally I enjoyed the finale. I'm actually looking forward to rewatching this season to see if my opinion on it changes. Either way I know I love Capaldi as The Doctor. I enjoyed the finale and I'm definitely enjoying Capaldi's Doctor but it just felt like this season was a bit lacking on something that I can't quite put my finger on. It definitely did. I rewatched the finale with a friend last night and she absolutely hated it and brought up some good points. I didn't hate it but I definitely didn't enjoy it as much as I did the first time. Also she absolutely despised the "big twist" without spoiling anything.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Nov 10, 2014 17:55:18 GMT -5
On 'Dark Water':
I really enjoyed that. Those 45 minutes or so just flew past. It's strange. Nothing happened and everything happened at the same time. Although not much happened, it's all built up to next week.
I am still in shock that Missy turned out to be The Master. From the moment she revealed herself to be a Time Lord/Lady, I was 110% fully expecting her to state that she was The Rani. I am quite happy with the shock. I'm glad that Doctor Who is still able to do that for me, even after what I would call a disappointing series. I do hope that The Master becomes male again in his/her next appearance though. Turning female is great for the surprise and breaking new ground and therefore the unexpected, but I just think that The Master should be male.
I do think the kissing was entirely unnecessary though. It just went on for far too long. I'm not usually against this sort of thing, but it just went on and on.
In conclusion, a great episode, but is the one and only episode that simply cannot be watched standalone.
On 'Death In Heaven':
So I rewatched this episode today, and I can upgrade my initial 7/10 rating to a strong 8/10. Absolutely emotional scene between Danny and Clara in the graveyard from beginning to end. Lovely strong "I Am The Doctor/idiot" scene in the graveyard, with the writers finally helping the Twelfth Doctor to reach his full potential. Hopefully now with the "am I a good man?" arc over, the Twelfth Doctor can be as strong as he was in 'Death In Heaven' in Series 9.
Sad to see Clara decide to leave The Doctor. However, it didn't feel like a proper goodbye. And then with the final scene with Santa, "it can't end like that...we need to get this sorted out...she's not alright and neither are you", along with the fact that Jenna Coleman is in the Christmas Special, gives me strong hope that Clara will return in the Christmas Special, and then will carry on travelling with The Doctor in Series 9, hopefully with a resurrected Danny Pink.
Right, now that Series 8 is over, I can give my final rankings:
Deep Breath - 8/10 Into the Dalek - 7/10 Robot of Sherwood - 8/10 Listen - 8/10 Time Heist - 7/10 The Caretaker - 8/10 Kill the Moon - 7/10 Mummy on the Orient Express - 7/10 Flatline - 8/10 In the Forest of the Night - 6/10 Dark Water - 9/10 Death in Heaven - 8/10
Series Average - 7.6
Series Rankings: Series Five - 7.9 Series One - 7.8 Series Two - 7.7 Series Seven - 7.7 Series Eight - 7.6 Series Three - 7.4 Series Four - 7.2 Series Six - 7.0
On Capaldi as the Twelfth Doctor:
Well I had high hopes for him right from the start. I was excited right from his reveal on Doctor Who Live: The Next Doctor. However in Series 8, he just didn't live up to the hype. He was just written badly. Nothing to do with Peter Capaldi, who played the role as well as he possibly could do. The Doctor should be "never cruel or cowardly". However in Series 8, The Twelfth Doctor definitely was both cruel AND cowardly. He did have moments of genius, but they were too few and far between. He was far too cold to be The Doctor.
However, that all changed with 'Dark Water/Death In Heaven'. He was finally shown to be a compassionate character, who truly cared for Clara, who was able to give heroic and rousing speeches, and who wanted to save humanity rather than cowardly escaping in his TARDIS. In short, he was truly The Doctor for maybe the first time.
With the "am I a good man?" arc hopefully over, I really hope the writing is stepped up for Series 9, and the Twelfth Doctor continues to truly be The Doctor.
So in conclusion, I can finally truly call the Twelfth Doctor, The Doctor.
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Post by Justin on Nov 11, 2014 13:08:45 GMT -5
Caught up completely now.
Was worried after the first episode of this season but I enjoyed this season a ton. Clara carried this season IMO and was fantastic. Clara is my favorite companion especially in Flatline. Capaldi was great from Kill the Moon and on.
I bingedwatched 9 years of Doctor Who in 2 months
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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 11, 2014 15:17:43 GMT -5
Saw the finale 4 days before everyone else. They did a special showing in Cardiff, epic.
I think it was an excellent two part finale. The twist at the very beginning came out of nowhere, excellently done. The entire story was good and overblow and over the top which is what you want for a final. Like the Master story with Martha. Missy was excellent, was on the fence at first but she won me over. She's obviously going to return and anyone saying she shouldn't be a woman is an idiot.
Overall, this was a good season, not great. There were a lot of dodgy Matt Smith episodes but I liked the majority of Capaldi's episodes. The only one I really really disliked was Robin Hood ep, that was awful and like a kid show.
For Capaldi himself, he's great. It's so different to what we've seen before and is a call back to the early doctors without repeating things. I'm so glad they changed the character, keeps it fresh.
For the future, Clara will return. Even if it's just for a few episodes after Xmas.
Oh and totally marked out for Nick Frost as Santa. Wish they didn't show the trailer, it wasn't particularly good and I would have preferred just the teaser.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 20:51:21 GMT -5
So thanks to the power of Hulu, I got to finally watch the Christmas Carol episode that Netflix for some reason doesn't include. It was fantastic, festive, touching, funny, and well kinda brilliant. Matt Smith will always be my Doctor. Definitely put me in the Christmas spirit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 20:59:01 GMT -5
Also, for those not aware, Hulu has every episode of Doctor Who not lost from the first Doctor on!
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 22, 2014 0:38:07 GMT -5
I've been in an argument with my ex for about four months now over if The Doctor should ever regenerate as a woman.
The Master just proved how AMAZING of a twist that could be. I had an inkling that she was The Master, but I wasn't completely sure. I was more floored that Master was still alive than a woman. I thought the last White Point Star killed The Master mid-regeneration? Someone wanna clear that up for me?
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Post by ahunter8056 on Nov 22, 2014 18:43:43 GMT -5
I've been in an argument with my ex for about four months now over if The Doctor should ever regenerate as a woman. The Master just proved how AMAZING of a twist that could be. I had an inkling that she was The Master, but I wasn't completely sure. I was more floored that Master was still alive than a woman. I thought the last White Point Star killed The Master mid-regeneration? Someone wanna clear that up for me? The Master saved The Doctor by attacking the Time Lords with his energy. It was assumed that he was then sent back into the Time War with the Time Lords. What happened next is a complete mystery, and one that I am disappointed wasn't explained in 'Death In Heaven'. As for the subject of The Doctor regenerating into a female, I honestly don't think it should happen. If it did happen it wouldn't be the end of the world, and I'd still keep watching, but I just think that The Doctor is firmly a male character, and that shouldn't be messed with. Just because it could happen doesn't mean it should happen.
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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 23, 2014 9:25:44 GMT -5
Moffat, the guy in charge of Dr Who, made a clear point in both the live Q and A I attended and red button extra (dunno if you guys get that in the States) that in the old days the Master just used to show up and not explain how he escaped death from the last show. And said he had no problem with that. Which is a major hint towards the Master returning and is a huge fan of the actress who plays Missy, so she won't be going anywhere.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 23, 2014 13:56:33 GMT -5
Moffat, the guy in charge of Dr Who, made a clear point in both the live Q and A I attended and red button extra (dunno if you guys get that in the States) that in the old days the Master just used to show up and not explain how he escaped death from the last show. And said he had no problem with that. Which is a major hint towards the Master returning and is a huge fan of the actress who plays Missy, so she won't be going anywhere. Yeah I know Master normally does that, but still. You can only run with the schtick so long before people get annoyed and want answers. Even for a Time Lord. And what regeneration is he/she on, anyways? Has to be nearing 12. And I doubt the Time Lords would grant him another regeneration cycle like they did for The Doctor. Again, probably looking into something that'll never get answered but whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 22:19:10 GMT -5
Moffat, the guy in charge of Dr Who, made a clear point in both the live Q and A I attended and red button extra (dunno if you guys get that in the States) that in the old days the Master just used to show up and not explain how he escaped death from the last show. And said he had no problem with that. Which is a major hint towards the Master returning and is a huge fan of the actress who plays Missy, so she won't be going anywhere. Yeah I know Master normally does that, but still. You can only run with the schtick so long before people get annoyed and want answers. Even for a Time Lord. And what regeneration is he/she on, anyways? Has to be nearing 12. And I doubt the Time Lords would grant him another regeneration cycle like they did for The Doctor. Again, probably looking into something that'll never get answered but whatever. The Master has already used all 13 of his regenerations back in the classic series. I think he made a deal with the Time Lords to get more, but I'm not exactly sure. I should really watch the classic series.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Nov 25, 2014 14:04:35 GMT -5
Well The Master definitely used all of his regeneration cycle in the Classic Series. In 'The Deadly Assassin' and 'The Keeper Of Traken' The Master appeared as a decaying corpse, having used up all of his regenerations. His goal in that period was to extend his life. In 'The Keeper Of Traken' he took over someone else's body, allowing him to live once again in a normal body, though still with no further regenerations. He was offered a new regeneration cycle in 'The Five Doctors' in exchange for saving The Doctor, but it is unknown as to whether this was ever granted, although likely not. In The TV Movie, The Master had been executed, after having used up all of his regenerations. This was likely referencing his first regeneration cycle. Although he came back to life in the episode, he was later killed. And of course you'll have all likely watched the new series, so you'll know the rest. Moffat, the guy in charge of Dr Who, made a clear point in both the live Q and A I attended and red button extra (dunno if you guys get that in the States) that in the old days the Master just used to show up and not explain how he escaped death from the last show. And said he had no problem with that. Which is a major hint towards the Master returning and is a huge fan of the actress who plays Missy, so she won't be going anywhere. I had no idea that was on the Red Button. Is that the full version or the highlights version uploaded to YouTube?
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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 25, 2014 14:46:50 GMT -5
The red button extra is about 10mins long.
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