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Post by LtD73 on Aug 4, 2013 9:53:59 GMT -5
Doctor 12 is confirmed to be male.
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Post by MacReady on Aug 4, 2013 10:01:11 GMT -5
I really hope it isn't an American male.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 4, 2013 11:24:04 GMT -5
Doctor 12 is confirmed to be male. That's good news imo. I think Moffat's comments on a potential female Doctor kind of squashed that rumor already anyway. He was like "yeah, but not really." I don't think just because there hasn't been a female Doctor, that they need to feel chauvinistic in anyway. All the recent companions are very strong willed women. I have personally enjoyed a lot of the funny sexual tension between Clara and the Doctor during season 7. It's been different in that it's a lot more natural than Amy lusting after him, all the while having a husband. Not to say that stuff wasn't hilarious too, because it was imo. I just really enjoy that dynamic. I think all of Rose, Amy, River and Clara are awesome characters. So I don't know why they need to justify a male Doctor to anyone. I really hope it isn't an American male. I don't expect that to be the case. There are too many great actors from the UK out there to pick for the role. That's not saying there aren't plenty of great American actors out there who could fill the role, but it just seems like an unnecessary risk with a show that's really at the height of its popularity, to-date anyway. I think that Matt Smith has been a massive part of that because he has mass appeal to fans of all ages and tenure. So I look for them to pick someone who has a similar appeal. Tennant and Smith are similar in that fashion, albeit very different in character. I don't know why this recent trend of politically correct America has to run into everything we see, hear or read nowadays. I don't want James Bond to be anything more than what Ian Fleming intended, or anything that completely abandons that scope of source material. I don't want a female Doctor, I don't want a white Blade or Spawn, and I don't want an actor that doesn't look, sound, and act like Batman, to be the next Batman. These characters are timeless, they have become timeless for a reason, and just because we see so much politically correct flag waving in today's society, doesn't mean these things are the voice of the masses. If that was the case, that'd just cast someone like Christine Adams as Superman and call it a day. Yeah, I know it worked with Nick Fury, but that took over half a decade of a change in source material and no one really carried that much about Fury beforehand anyway. I know this is a tireless rant, but I don't see the problem with 50 year old characters being portrayed the same way they have been for 50 years. If they decided to make another Underworld or Alien film and tried to cast a man as the lead, I'd feel the exact same way.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 4, 2013 13:27:17 GMT -5
There he is Peter Capaldi.
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Post by John Zero on Aug 4, 2013 13:34:08 GMT -5
Not a bad choice at all. It's cool to see someone a little bit older in the role again.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 4, 2013 13:35:45 GMT -5
The pages I like on facebook have just blew up because all the teen fan girls are saying he's too old lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 13:43:04 GMT -5
I couldn't be happier with this choice. Peter Capaldi is perfect for this role, and I for one, can't wait to see his first appearance at Christmas!
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Post by Red Dragon on Aug 4, 2013 13:44:26 GMT -5
Very happy with the choice. Shocked by it because I read to ignore the rumour. I'm glad it's someone I've seen act, not some unknown. I'm much more excited by it than I thought I would be.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Aug 4, 2013 13:44:56 GMT -5
Woo! Before he was announced, I wasn't sure about him. I'd seen him in Torchwood and Doctor Who, and I thought he was good, but I wasn't sure if he'd be good enough to pull of The Doctor. However, he somehow won me over from that interview. Now I can't wait to see him in Series 8! Not too sure how his relationship with Clara will work however. It'll be interesting to find out.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 4, 2013 13:48:59 GMT -5
I cant wait, he's definitely going to be different, because I don't see him being hyperactive and running about like the previous 3.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Aug 4, 2013 13:59:27 GMT -5
If he was 10 years older then I'd say that he's too old, but I think that his age will be a refreshing change, without hindering the character.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 14:12:18 GMT -5
There's actually an outrage on Twitter about the be doctor being a white male. Yeah.... So don't know much about this guy. He was good in the one episode of Doctor Who I saw him in. Don't remember him from World War Z (though am I the only one who finds it hilarious that's he's credited as W.H.O. Doctor in World War Z?) so I guess I have a reason to re-watch WWZ. Edit: Saw this on Twitter. Funny stuff
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Post by John Zero on Aug 4, 2013 15:28:39 GMT -5
There's actually an outrage on Twitter about the be doctor being a white male. Yeah.... So don't know much about this guy. He was good in the one episode of Doctor Who I saw him in. Don't remember him from World War Z (though am I the only one who finds it hilarious that's he's credited as W.H.O. Doctor in World War Z?) so I guess I have a reason to re-watch WWZ. I saw that too and laughed for about 10 minutes. My sister is disappointed, because he's "too old". I had to remind her of the First Doctor.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 4, 2013 15:39:17 GMT -5
It's interesting because he's the same age Hartnell was when he played the first Doctor.
I'm really looking forward to seeing him in the role. He's a great actor and should bring something to it we haven't seen before.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 4, 2013 16:34:17 GMT -5
I do think he is too old to fill the "popular to the masses" requirement. So much so that I think it will turn off a decent number of viewers before he even gets a real shot. I'm guessing that's something they took into consideration. It seems, at least we have been told, he is the right guy for this particular part of the Doctor's story. So I'm intrigued. I personally like that he is a big change from Smith. That's what I need so that it doesn't feel like he is a guy trying to fill the same shoes.
Regardless, I'm insanely excited for the 50th. Smith's run should end in grand fashion and then we'll have plenty of time to prepare for the transition.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Aug 5, 2013 6:04:32 GMT -5
To be honest, I'm more excited for Series 8 than the 50th Anniversary Special right now.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 7, 2013 7:07:16 GMT -5
I read that Neil Gaiman, who just as a side note is my favorite writer of all time and to which I have insanely biased opinion of The Doctors Wife and Nightmare in Silver as being two of the greatest television episodes ever, mentioned that a black actor was offered the part of the Doctor. So I think there might be some validity to that Idris Elba rumor. The actor, whoever he may have been, turned the part down.
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Post by John Zero on Aug 7, 2013 11:38:18 GMT -5
I see a lot of articles about people claiming the show is racist, because there has never been a black Doctor. They always seem to leave out the fact that there are TONS of interracial couples in the show.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 7, 2013 12:10:59 GMT -5
I read that Neil Gaiman, who just as a side note is my favorite writer of all time and to which I have insanely biased opinion of The Doctors Wife and Nightmare in Silver as being two of the greatest television episodes ever, mentioned that a black actor was offered the part of the Doctor. So I think there might be some validity to that Idris Elba rumor. The actor, whoever he may have been, turned the part down. Moffat said there were no auditions, they only wanted and only had Capaldi read for the role
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 7, 2013 12:35:42 GMT -5
I read that Neil Gaiman, who just as a side note is my favorite writer of all time and to which I have insanely biased opinion of The Doctors Wife and Nightmare in Silver as being two of the greatest television episodes ever, mentioned that a black actor was offered the part of the Doctor. So I think there might be some validity to that Idris Elba rumor. The actor, whoever he may have been, turned the part down. Moffat said there were no auditions, they only wanted and only had Capaldi read for the role If I'm a GM and I'm going after Adrian Peterson, but end up with Matt Forte because Peterson signs someplace else, I'm going to say Forte was my guy all along. I truly believe there were no auditions, because there didn't need to be with a part that in-demand, but Gaiman has no reason to make that up. Maybe it was Paterson Joseph, who they contemplated picking for the eleventh Doctor. Another guy they are already familiar with and that Gaiman knows from Neverwhere.
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