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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 0:50:49 GMT -5
I like it. He is pretty good in the ring and with Heyman behind he could be a big star. I'm interested to see where this goes. Now, if they can bring up Paige, Ohno and Steamboat when he gets healthy, I'll be happy.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on May 21, 2013 0:53:20 GMT -5
Why couldn't they call him Curt Axel like his minitron says?? It sounds much better IMO.
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Post by slappy on May 21, 2013 0:54:58 GMT -5
How else do they build up people on the roster? They can't all debut and be big stars right away. You do understand where his name comes from, it's not just some random name. You don't have a guy wrestle under a completely different name and then have him debut literally a week later with a new ring name. If he would've come out and then Heyman explained that Michael McGillicutty was the WWE's way of hiding his legacy, so he's now going by his real name, Joe Hennig, then that at least would've been somewhat more believable. I just don't understand how the WWE thinks we're supposed to believe this same guy who was losing on Superstars the last "X" number of weeks/months suddenly comes back a week after losing to Sin Cara and is supposed to be a main event player. At least with Jack Swagger (even though I've never liked him the least bit) they kept him off TV for a few months before bringing him back with this new gimmick. Oh, and aside from that - he has the exact same look as the last time we saw him on TV and when he was with Punk's Nexus. If you're going to revamp someone and give them a new name, gimmick, entrance music, etc. then change something about his appearance, too. Long hair, clean-shaven, Mr. Perfect's singlet - I really don't know what specifically. But to have him come out looking like the same old Michael McGillicutty was just super lame. They couldn't have at least printed up new tights with his new ring name on them for him to wear? And, yes, I know where the name comes from, but it's still totally cheesy to me. Johnny Nitro to John Morrison. I know he was champion when he changed but they just up and switched one day. How many people watch those C shows? In my opinion the reaction tonight wasn't "This guy lost last week" but more "We haven't seen this guy since he teamed with Otunga." It doesn't matter though that he was losing all the time. They can make anyone a star if they do it right. It's like what was said before, Rocky Miavia. Just combining names (albeit a tad differently). He's paying tribute. Plus WWE has been dying to use Axel. They gave the name to Husky Harris and now McGillicutty has it.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 21, 2013 1:42:36 GMT -5
Its a horrible name. What the hell is wrong with the name Joe Hennig? Curtis Axel sounds like one of the wrestlers from No Holds Barred. There is zero chance of him getting anywhere with the name Curtis Axel. Joe the Hennig!!! I wish him all the luck in the world, but he is doomed with a name like Curtis Axel. Joe Hennig, no gimmicks, no "Joseph the Perfect Axe Hennig, just Joe Hennig, 3rd generation superstar. This is almost as big of a mistake as turning Ryback heel. People with weird names never get over Edge, Undertaker, CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Gorilla Monsoon, Bobo Brazil, Sting, Sunny, Ax, Smash, Hawk, Animal, etc. I clearly specified intellectually- disabled name. Compare Curtis Axel, which sounds like a porn star to a name like Sting, The Undertaker, etc. basically all of the names you mentioned besides Dolph Ziggler are pretty badass. Dolph Ziggler at least has a ring to it. Curtis Axel grates.
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Post by slappy on May 21, 2013 1:45:49 GMT -5
I clearly specified intellectually- disabled name. Compare Curtis Axel, which sounds like a porn star to a name like Sting, The Undertaker, etc. basically all of the names you mentioned besides Dolph Ziggler are pretty badass. Dolph Ziggler at least has a ring to it. Curtis Axel grates. I think they should just drop the "is" and let him be Curt Axel which is much better. All those names I mentioned are ridiculous but it was the people with the names that helped the name become bad ass. If you made Terry Taylor "The Undertaker" the name wouldn't have the same strength. It's no knock on TT but he wouldn't have been able to pull it off.
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Post by done on May 21, 2013 1:51:40 GMT -5
Curt Axel - his dad's first name, his granddad's nickname?
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Post by Booger Red on May 21, 2013 1:52:07 GMT -5
I'm happy that Joe Hennig is getting an opportunity to become a star in the WWE. I've heard that Triple H sees a lot of promise in him, He's worked with The Rock and Brock Lesnar in getting ready for their matches. The guy has a lot of potential and he's quite good in the ring. All Hennig needed was a manager to get him over and now with Paul Heyman speaking on his behalf and cutting promo building up "Curtis Axel", he may be ready to get some exposure. Time will tell if Curtis Axel can become a main event player.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on May 21, 2013 1:54:49 GMT -5
Its a horrible name. What the hell is wrong with the name Joe Hennig? Curtis Axel sounds like one of the wrestlers from No Holds Barred. There is zero chance of him getting anywhere with the name Curtis Axel. Joe the Hennig!!! I wish him all the luck in the world, but he is doomed with a name like Curtis Axel. Joe Hennig, no gimmicks, no "Joseph the Perfect Axe Hennig, just Joe Hennig, 3rd generation superstar. This is almost as big of a mistake as turning Ryback heel. I was literally saying this as he came out. Then the announcers kept saying how this was his debut match. Uhhh the guy has been your tag team champion! I know they think we all have short attention spans, but good lord. I did like the music, but the crowd reaction was bland because either they thought "That guy from the Nexus Michael whatever?," or "Heyman has Lesnar & Punk, this guy by comparison is looks like a jobber." Also having Triple H bury him by saying "The adults are talking" doesn't help. As a fan I know that honoring the generations before you is cool. I mean look at how well that was working for the Rock, before he changed it to the Rock. To me by not calling him Joe Henning, or Curtis Henning, or anything with Henning in it makes me think that he is afraid of his legacy, or that WWE does. If they really want to get him over, and make people think he's a Paul Heyman guy, they should have let him be like Orton and just go by his family name and make people know that he's damned worthy of it! "I'm a Henning, and you all have to deal with my greatness."
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 21, 2013 2:42:19 GMT -5
I clearly specified intellectually- disabled name. Compare Curtis Axel, which sounds like a porn star to a name like Sting, The Undertaker, etc. basically all of the names you mentioned besides Dolph Ziggler are pretty badass. Dolph Ziggler at least has a ring to it. Curtis Axel grates. I think they should just drop the "is" and let him be Curt Axel which is much better. All those names I mentioned are ridiculous but it was the people with the names that helped the name become bad ass. If you made Terry Taylor "The Undertaker" the name wouldn't have the same strength. It's no knock on TT but he wouldn't have been able to pull it off. I have to respectfully disagree with the side point of weird names getting over, Though I definitely agree with you that the people ho played the characters made the names. I don't think that Undertaker, Edge, Sting, and Demolition are weird names at all. For names like Sting, Ax, Smash, Hawk, and Animal and even The Undertaker, not only do they just sound more menacing than Curtis Axel, they were perfect for the time. A name like Ryback even works today. Curtis Axel or Curt Axel, in my opinion, doesn't even measure up to the aforementioned names. The grating affect that the name has on me is made exponentially worse by two things: 1: His name is Joe freaking Hennig, which is actually an excellent name that also pays tribute to both Perfect and the Axe 2: We are supposed to forget that he was Michael McGilicutty and is a former tag team champion Regardless of the rationale for choosing that name, Curtis Axel doesn't sound like a name that belongs to a real wrestler. They obviously spent weeks (seconds) trying to think of a name that would pay tribute to Mr. Perfect and Larry the Axe Hennig. What is their solution? Eliminate Hennig altogether and put together the worst possible concoction of names (aside from maybe Mr. Axe). Lets not forget that there was no Larry the Axel Hennig, and Curt never went by Curtis Hennig. All I am saying (in my roundabout way) is that Curtis Axel is an insanely intellectually- disabled name, especially considering what they were going for, when they very easily could have payed tribute by merely calling him Joe Hennig, or even Michael Hennig if they wanted to play up the McGillicutty angle.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on May 21, 2013 3:28:47 GMT -5
Its good to see a great new guy given a chance, but , why do they need to have these stupid promo segments every time a new guy comes in. Why the hell not have him attack Trips to end the show, build to a bigger match next week, or even at the PPV. Make some build for it, get some actual fued going :/
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 3:50:27 GMT -5
Also having Triple H bury him by saying "The adults are talking" doesn't help. As a fan I know that honoring the generations before you is cool. I mean look at how well that was working for the Rock, before he changed it to the Rock. You thought that was burying??? Curtis Axel has alot of time to grow and HHH'S comment made sense he & heyman have been around a long time(Axel/joe is a younger guy that hasn't)
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on May 21, 2013 4:13:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure why everyone expects WWE to use his real name. They always use names they can trademark. Just be glad they explained why he has a different name and how he is related to Perfect and Larry Hennig. It's not great, but its a nice tribute.
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Post by Falconsinclair on May 21, 2013 4:51:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure why everyone expects WWE to use his real name. They always use names they can trademark. Just be glad they explained why he has a different name and how he is related to Perfect and Larry Hennig. It's not great, but its a nice tribute. This right here completely sums up my feelings on the name situation. Vince is all about names that he can keep, and continue to make money off of long after that person is gone from the company. I know a lot of indy guys are trademarking their names so when they get to the WWE or TNA, those two companies can't trademark their name and likeness. Look back to the case of the Warrior. That man legally changed his name so Vince couldn't trademark it, which failed miserably. As for Curtis Axel. While it isn't the greatest name, maybe it is a jumping off place, and as he evolves and starts to feel more comfortable in his own skin he can change to Michael Hennig or Joe Hennig, as he moves closer to the main event scene. I also love the remixed "Mr. Perfect" theme and I think it fits Curtis greatly. It will be great to see how this plays out over the next few months. Hopefully Joe Hennig doesn't start becoming generic jobber #5,139,381
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 6:16:34 GMT -5
They could have at least called him "Axel Hennig".
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2013 7:55:53 GMT -5
This was simply... Perfect!
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Post by MrPerfect25 on May 21, 2013 8:12:52 GMT -5
This is awesome! I missed Raw but have it dvr'd. I can't wait to go home and watch this.
Axel Hennig would've been way better, but at least they scrapped the Mcgillicutty garbage. I hope he makes his dad proud.
Amazing spin on the theme music
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Post by Chip on May 21, 2013 8:13:13 GMT -5
why does the entire internet want this scenario:
- Joe Hennig comes out (because that's how all armchair booking starts....with a guy coming out) and says "I was stuck with a crappy name by management! so i'm not gonna take it! i'm Joe Hennig!" then he breaks out a towel and spits gum. So we have Mr. Perfect in 2013 with not as much talent.
People need to let it go. Mr. Perfect is no longer with us. His son does not need to be Mr. Perfect Jr.
How did it work out for Ted DiBiase? Did Randy Orton wrestle wearing a cowboy hat? Does Cody Rhodes wear polka dots?
Joe Hennig is a horrible wrestling name. It sounds like the LEAST intimidating thing ever. Curtis Axel isn't bad at all. Calling him "Curt Axe" is stupid. They brought out, explained who he was and why he has that name, end of story. Everyone needs to accept it and move on. When Dolph Ziggler debuted they didn't say "oh here's the guy from the Spirit Squad"
A gimmick change is just that. He's got Heyman to talk for him, and they obviously want to create a new heel to feed to guys like Cena & Triple H. So why not? There are 200000 worse names they could have used, and having him "come out" and go the incredibly corny, lame and boring route of "I'm Mr. Perfect's son and I'm gonna rise above corporate maaaannn" would be an epic EPIC fail. and overall they are giving the gimmick enough tribute to the Hennig family without just calling him Joe Hennig. Plus his theme is amazing
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Post by BrandontheWrestlingGuy on May 21, 2013 8:33:22 GMT -5
I Like his new persona, IMO it's way better then Michael Mc, I always felt he should have a family name or something.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 21, 2013 8:36:43 GMT -5
Thought it was a great reintroduction for the guy. Everyone hated the MM name so this is definitely an improvement. I mean he looked pretty solid in the main event on Raw against Triple H of all people. Obviously we will get to see where he goes from here but being with Heyman is a good thing for him. I don't think you can argue this is the best position he has been in to-date. Curtis Axel is no more ridiculous than Dolph Ziggler. A guy makes the name, not the other way around. I'm looking forward to watching the Axel character grow.
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Post by TurboEddie on May 21, 2013 8:56:58 GMT -5
Why not? I think he's awesome.
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