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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 7:26:13 GMT -5
What WrestleMania is this figure from? Its not 23 I know that for sure  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 7:27:43 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 21
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Jul 5, 2013 7:30:53 GMT -5
Yup, it's from his first world title victory over HHH at Mania 21. ![]() |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 7:56:02 GMT -5
Thanks guys!
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Post by poindizzle on Jul 5, 2013 8:41:24 GMT -5
He should have had more hair on his head. That's what I hate about some of those Heritage figures. For starters, a lot of them are bland choices, but the headscans not being right kill it. I'd rather they not make them if they're inaccurate scans for the time period. Lump in Wrestlemania Heritage series 1 and 2 Orton, Wrestlemania Heritage 3 Cena and Triple H, and BOPPV Summerslam Daniel Bryan with this one.
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 5, 2013 9:58:07 GMT -5
Why wouldn't they include the belt? Esp since it's a heritage fig of when he won the WHC
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 12:55:21 GMT -5
What WrestleMania is this figure from? Its not 23 I know that for sure You do realize there is a thing called google, it is really helpful. |
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Post by Self-Savior on Jul 5, 2013 13:45:15 GMT -5
Why wouldn't they include the belt? Esp since it's a heritage fig of when he won the WHC The first WrestleMania Heritage set dropped around the same time that Basic 1, Elite 1 and Two-Packs 1 dropped in January 2010. Belts weren't included in anything until 2011. |
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Post by tehlance13 on Jul 5, 2013 13:54:59 GMT -5
You're making me feel pretty old if you really don't know this attire. Why wouldn't they include the belt? Esp since it's a heritage fig of when he won the WHC It still a Basic figure. Just before the heritage was included as a seperate basic series and also what was stated above. |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 5, 2013 16:25:56 GMT -5
Basics come with belts
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 20:17:59 GMT -5
True, but as stated above, the titles were not introduced in the line until Elite series 8. This figure was released in Jan of 2010 with the first wave of Mattel WWE figures. |
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Post by terraryzing on Jul 6, 2013 8:47:57 GMT -5
True, but as stated above, the titles were not introduced in the line until Elite series 8. This figure was released in Jan of 2010 with the first wave of Mattel WWE figures. Every figure that was a first timer came with a limited edition belt there was only 1000 of each. Remember? |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 6, 2013 9:45:05 GMT -5
No they don't. True, but as stated above, the titles were not introduced in the line until Elite series 8. This figure was released in Jan of 2010 with the first wave of Mattel WWE figures. Every figure that was a first timer came with a limited edition belt there was only 1000 of each. Remember? Batista's 1 of 1000 were for his Series 1 figure, not his WrestleMania Heritage one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 9:58:15 GMT -5
True, but as stated above, the titles were not introduced in the line until Elite series 8. This figure was released in Jan of 2010 with the first wave of Mattel WWE figures. Every figure that was a first timer came with a limited edition belt there was only 1000 of each. Remember? Yes, I remember them, but those were not the titles we are talking about. those were oversized, rediculous looking belts that were not good for anything but the chase. |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 6, 2013 10:17:20 GMT -5
Oh really? Kmart champions series: Big Show - white IC, Kofi - tag belt, Kane - WHC belt, Cena - WWE title EG M$M - million dollar belt Battle packs come with belts all the time I didn't say every basic comes with a belt, but it is known to happen. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 6, 2013 11:11:51 GMT -5
Yes, really. That's the Kmart champions series, not the basic series. Did you think the Batista in the first picture was from the Kmart Champions series when you asked why it didn't have the belt? That's the Entrance Greats series, not the basic series. Did you think the Batista in the first picture was an Entrance Great when you asked why it didn't have the belt? That's the Battle Packs series, not the basic series. Did you think the Batista in the first picture was a Battle Pack when you asked why it didn't have the belt? No, it isn't known to happen. None of the standard basics/PPV line that's sold everywhere -- which that Batista is clearly part of -- has come with any championship belts from WWE TV. Furthermore, as someone else explained to you, there were no World titles made by Mattel when the first wave of figures came out. |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jul 6, 2013 21:14:41 GMT -5
Those are all basic figures. End of discussion.
You're arguing a point that I never even disputed.
Those that I mentioned, guess what! They aren't elites........omg they're basics.
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Post by poindizzle on Jul 6, 2013 23:13:11 GMT -5
Those are all basic figures. End of discussion. You're arguing a point that I never even disputed. Those that I mentioned, guess what! They aren't elites........omg they're basics. Some people get off on the semantics of saying things like "Technically Luke Gallows never had a basic because he was only in the 2 pack line and the Elites", whereas you and I would say "Luke Gallows has a basic style figure, end of story." Basics do come with belts even if it's just 2 packs or exclusives or whatever, but they are basic style figures because they don't have ab crunches and ball jointed hips and double jointed knees, etc. etc. The simple non smartass answer to your question is that they had not created any title belts at that point, and the standard mass-retail basic line was decided upon by Mattel to not include accessories and that was only recently repealed with b23's Alicia Fox who has her hood. Mattel is slowly shedding off their arbitrary rules, so chalk this figure up to that simple fact that they used to have rules that no one could quite pin down why. They also just recently abolished the one about standard basics only being in ring gear with the superstar entrances figures and B29 Stone Cold. Maybe since they make money hand over fist, a standard basic might someday have a belt. But then what would some people do with their time? |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 7, 2013 0:37:42 GMT -5
You're arguing a point that I never even disputed. No, I'm explaining why your initial post (and the follow-up one with the "basics come with belts derp derp") was absurd. Here is a partial list of the other Rumble/WrestleMania/SummerSlam/Survivor Series Heritage figures of people who walked in and/or walked out of those events with a Championship. The Rock: Survivor Series '98 (WWE) Randy Orton: WrestleMania 20 (Intercontinental), SummerSlam 2004 (World), WrestleMania 24 (WWE), Stone Cold: WrestleMania XV (WWE) John Cena: WrestleMania 20 (US), 21 (WWE), 23 (WWE) Macho Man: WrestleMania 5 (WWE) Daniel Bryan: WrestleMania 28 (World) Sheamus: Rumble 2010 (WWE) Eddie Guerrero: WrestleMania 20 (WWE) And there are most likely a few others I haven't listed. Some of these heritage figures have been released since you've been a member here. None have had the title belt (or robes, jackets, t-shirts etc) from the night. So you saw the picture of a Batista in basic WrestleMania Heritage packaging, and knew full well that those figures never include the title, yet for some reason decided to post as though you thought it would have had a title. If you really thought that Entrance Greats and basics were the same thing, you could post "Why doesn't it come with full entrance gear, titles and a stand playing its music?" about pretty much every basic. And you don't (that I have seen). That is why the fundamental premise of your point is flawed. |
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Post by poindizzle on Jul 7, 2013 6:46:06 GMT -5
Some context:
I'm pretty sure MrPerfect25 has said in other threads that he was not a collector from the beginning of Mattel's run.
Not everyone says basics to only refer to series 1-12 and PPV series 1-11, and the individually numbered Superstars series. For some basics means anything with that style of articulation: Solid torso, t-crotch, single jointed knees, etc.
MrPerfect25 and Next Man's Sweater are both right and wrong based on the logic of either a.)Basics are anything with basic style articulation or b.)Basics are only the non-exclusive numbered sets on the single cards. Like I said, we're arguing semantics.
The standard basic line was originally created to be a budget friendly line by Mattel and to keep costs down they did not include accessories, and were only to be depicted in 'In ring gear' only. Some things have changed over time, but the original concept held for almost 3 years. This is the simple answer with no snark added.
Everybody arguing over who is right and wrong can be put to rest.
Back to the original discussion.
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